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Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe
See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs
Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.
Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.
MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.
Surely you jest.
MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.
How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?
There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?
Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?
The landscape has changed but you're too blinded by what has always been that you don't understand the new rules of engagement. MLS academiss will always play a role. But, today, because they are demanding more money than ever for a player, they don't represent the easiest path for a player to transfer to Europe. Is is the most common, yes. Easiest, no. And MLS transfers are different from MLS academy.tranfers. much more of the former the latter.
Can you please explain the rules of training compensation and tell us how the figures are calculated?
Easiest way to look at our total costs. When you factor in travel, private training, etc. our real costs are about $10k - $20k. Most of us earn good wages so it does not hurt us and we mask the true costs in our travel budgets. DCU is charging $10k for education only and the new Bethesda Academy via TPH is $22k for school and daily training but not the secondary club component. A formal club like DCU has overhead on top of the direct costs so they probably calculate the cost as $35k-$50k per year. If you are in their system for just two years, they may want $150k from a Cat 1 -2 club overseas. If your kid is not $150k more talented than a local kid in Liverpool, and you have the risk of the kid flaming out being away from Mommy and Daddy and no club is going to spend $150k. Before 2022, MLS let these kids go for free which was an easy investment for the clubs and bad business by MLS Next clubs.
If you actually look at the FIFA regulations, the rules have probably come about because there was a lot of abuse from unsuspecting families by clubs.
However, if a kid wants this move to Europe early because he shows promise and the family has the means, instead of taking the “free” ride from a MLS academy, you can supplement your own kids training and either stateside or make a move to Europe in accordance with the FIFA rules posted above and work your way up through the system. Your first year without an EU passport will not be free. Read the rules. That is how families are going and there are formalized structures now in place. For me personally, it will not work for my family making the move but if your family has the flexibility, look into it. I am not committed to any option but ensuring I am aware of all options to make the best decision for my son.
No, it is HIGHLY LIKELY you are not going to move to a Cat 1 academy (top club) from the US. None of our kids have played enough. That is kind of the point of making the move. Most standout kids are playing 2-3 hours daily in non-formalized environments. It is kind of hard for many of us to let go our of educational requirements to allow a kid to play soccer 2-3 hours per day in the US and our hyper-educated DMV. In UK, daily play is integrated in daily life so your kid feels normal. Here, my kid is considered a freak.
If you guys actually stopped sucking the tits of our system, we could replicate the success of Europe. Organize pickups with top players across clubs and play more 3v3, 4v4 and 5v5 at the new BSC facility, SoFive or one of the Target futsal courts in MD, VA and DC. Heck, kick off the pickleballers and play on the tennis courts.
Get at least 3k touches a day including juggling with every part of the body and wall passes with double the reps on your weak foot as your strong foot.
I am a BSC parent and if you have a problem with this conversation get out of this string. We are at BSC because the coaches have these conversations and the parents of motivated players have these conversations about how to get our motivated kids to the next level.
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