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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only way to make it to Europe - assuming your kid is very good - is to surround your kid by coaches who care and who have pro connections, as well as understanding the system and navigating it accordingly. Like any other business transaction you need to develop the appropriate connections for your kid to be seen by the right people. It’s not just luck. You need to do the legwork. Not being part of an mls club is a plus unless you are willing to pay the transfer from your own pocket. There are several stories of DCU kids being f** over because of this. Having an European passport definitely helps because it makes it easier for the European club.

Not being part of a mls club professional academy is a plus, except the fact that almost all American players without European passports went to Professional european clubs from MLS club academies

Now here comes someone to list the one or two outliers

MLS academies represent the only pro system in the US that the outside football world values. USL doesn't have the cache. Not yet at least. Because of that, they do gatekeep a bit. But you have to be smart about how you use them. Use them and do t let them use you. Keep your eye on the prize whatever that is. Just know that each year you stay in an MLS academy your transfer gets more expensive.

And this wasn't the case just a few years ago. MLS is greedy and wants to monopolize the player pool for profit. Problem is that they have very little experience doing this. Europe is much more experienced. MLS is learning and there are a few clubs that are doing the right things (Philly, rsl, ryrb etc). But there are lots that have no idea what they are doing
DC United is the prime example of this.

What can Philly do differently than DC for a 16 year old player who doesn't have a European passport?

How much leverage, say and power do parents and agents have over the clubs in negotiations?

Philly has stronger relationships in Europe and worldwide than DCU. It is just a much more respected program for the products they produce. Philly has made 4 times the amount of money on.acadmey players than DCU has over the last 5-6 years and there is a reason for that. At a minimum, they can offer a stronger network which in turn represents more potential exposure and opportunities. Philly has a stronger and smarter front office for negotiations and strategy around player moves. DCUs front office is literally a joke. Given all of that, who would you chose? At 16 Philly can do what it did for Cavan Sullivan. DCU could t do that because 1. They dont have the talent or the development history and 2. They don't have the relationships.

Parents have almost no leverage. They have a say but that's about it. Agents have a liittle more power because they are actually brokering the deals and the relationships. Parents should be that...parents. leave the football to people whose job it is to do football.

You've said nothing that Philly can do that a connected parent can't

So the poster is right that being at BSC with the right connections is as good a route.

If you have the right connections you don't need Philly or BSC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Connections is how you trial in Europe.

You may not be aware of them because a coach has a reputation and will not stake it unless he is confident the player will rep in the trial whether they make it or not.

We organically connected with the same German contacts the Achilles coaches have. Having these conversations organically, off line and being open-minded help.

I know that my kid will get more opportunities than most because we are humble as a family and willing to start at the bottom of any opportunity and work our way up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Connections is how you trial in Europe.

You may not be aware of them because a coach has a reputation and will not stake it unless he is confident the player will rep in the trial whether they make it or not.

We organically connected with the same German contacts the Achilles coaches have. Having these conversations organically, off line and being open-minded help.

I know that my kid will get more opportunities than most because we are humble as a family and willing to start at the bottom of any opportunity and work our way up.

Is it technically a "trial" if you don't have a European passport?
What about insurance against injury?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Connections is how you trial in Europe.

You may not be aware of them because a coach has a reputation and will not stake it unless he is confident the player will rep in the trial whether they make it or not.

We organically connected with the same German contacts the Achilles coaches have. Having these conversations organically, off line and being open-minded help.

I know that my kid will get more opportunities than most because we are humble as a family and willing to start at the bottom of any opportunity and work our way up.

Is it technically a "trial" if you don't have a European passport?
What about insurance against injury?

You can move at 18. I’ve seen a couple make that jump but as PP seems to allude to, you have to be seen fairly regularly or have a pattern of being good enough to be invited to trials (including MLS academies).

And as another PP said above, it’s a lot of work for a very small chance. But if your family is supportive and you have a backup plan, why not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

‘Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower.


You cant be serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

‘Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower.


You cant be serious.

DEAD SERIOUS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Because most parents are ignorant about the process, like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

‘Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower.


You cant be serious.

DEAD SERIOUS

He doesn't mean transfer in the way we understand the word transfer in soccer circles I assume

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

The landscape has changed but you're too blinded by what has always been that you don't understand the new rules of engagement. MLS academiss will always play a role. But, today, because they are demanding more money than ever for a player, they don't represent the easiest path for a player to transfer to Europe. Is is the most common, yes. Easiest, no. And MLS transfers are different from MLS academy.tranfers. much more of the former the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

‘Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower.


You cant be serious.

DEAD SERIOUS

He doesn't mean transfer in the way we understand the word transfer in soccer circles I assume

You're probably right

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Because most parents are ignorant about the process, like you.

How many times have you and your immediate family members been through 'the process'?

Youth player recruited officially by a European top club academy. Family, all or some, moved to the new country.
Kid gets player card and is on academy team full-time, learns language, schooling etc for a couple years or still there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

The landscape has changed but you're too blinded by what has always been that you don't understand the new rules of engagement. MLS academiss will always play a role. But, today, because they are demanding more money than ever for a player, they don't represent the easiest path for a player to transfer to Europe. Is is the most common, yes. Easiest, no. And MLS transfers are different from MLS academy.tranfers. much more of the former the latter.

Can you please explain the rules of training compensation and tell us how the figures are calculated?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

The landscape has changed but you're too blinded by what has always been that you don't understand the new rules of engagement. MLS academiss will always play a role. But, today, because they are demanding more money than ever for a player, they don't represent the easiest path for a player to transfer to Europe. Is is the most common, yes. Easiest, no. And MLS transfers are different from MLS academy.tranfers. much more of the former the latter.

Can you please explain the rules of training compensation and tell us how the figures are calculated?

Chatgpt and Google are your friend. Easy to find. Look it up yourself.