ADHD Clusters in a classroom

[Anonymous]

Whose horrible idea was it to cluster all the ADHD kids together in one classroom? My child has had a HORRIBLE year because of these kids - lots of teachers (not just the homeroom teacher) yelling at the entire class for the behavior of a small group of boys. One or two per room would be fine, but clustering 6-8 ADHD kids together one classroom with a new, young teacher who doesn't know how to manage them is truly cruel to the other students.

[Anonymous]

I am a teacher. I find it hard to believe that you know which students in your child's class has a diagnoses of ADHD. That is confidential information. You would not know if they have an IEP or 504. Are you assuming? Is your child assuming?

[Anonymous]

They tend to group IEP/504 kids in one class so the special Ed teacher can stay in there most of the day. It sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whose horrible idea was it to cluster all the ADHD kids together in one classroom? My child has had a HORRIBLE year because of these kids - lots of teachers (not just the homeroom teacher) yelling at the entire class for the behavior of a small group of boys. One or two per room would be fine, but clustering 6-8 ADHD kids together one classroom with a new, young teacher who doesn't know how to manage them is truly cruel to the other students.

How do you know they are ADHD? I doubt this was deliberate.
What grade is this?

FWIW, I was a new teacher once and also had difficulty at first. I went on to do fine with classroom control, but some years, the chemistry of the class is just "different." Sometimes kids play off of each other. And, the teachers are very limited today in what they can do to stop it. When I taught, a few minutes out of recess did wonders. Teachers are not allowed to do that now.

[Anonymous]

Secondary teacher: I have 6-8 in every class period with ADHD 504s. It's become so widespread since I started teaching 20 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if every class looks like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whose horrible idea was it to cluster all the ADHD kids together in one classroom? My child has had a HORRIBLE year because of these kids - lots of teachers (not just the homeroom teacher) yelling at the entire class for the behavior of a small group of boys. One or two per room would be fine, but clustering 6-8 ADHD kids together one classroom with a new, young teacher who doesn't know how to manage them is truly cruel to the other students.

How do you know they are ADHD? I doubt this was deliberate.
What grade is this?

FWIW, I was a new teacher once and also had difficulty at first. I went on to do fine with classroom control, but some years, the chemistry of the class is just "different." Sometimes kids play off of each other. And, the teachers are very limited today in what they can do to stop it. When I taught, a few minutes out of recess did wonders. Teachers are not allowed to do that now.

Maybe the kid has IEP- and they got to small group for ELA so maybe out of 8 kids they almost alll have ADHD-ASD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They tend to group IEP/504 kids in one class so the special Ed teacher can stay in there most of the day. It sucks.

I hope someone discriminates against your kids, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I find it hard to believe that you know which students in your child's class has a diagnoses of ADHD. That is confidential information. You would not know if they have an IEP or 504. Are you assuming? Is your child assuming?

Kids are really open about their diagnoses and their IEPs/504s nowadays, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They tend to group IEP/504 kids in one class so the special Ed teacher can stay in there most of the day. It sucks.

I hope someone discriminates against your kids, too.

Who is discriminating against whom in this situation, PP? The school discriminating against special education children? Me discriminating against them because I'm pissed that my child is suffering the consequences of their bad behavior? At least once a week, the entire classroom gets punished because clustered together, these boys play off each other and everything gets escalated. It's just a really horrible situation for all the other kids all because everything has to center around this one group of kids and they're not allowed to be punished because they have an IEP or 504.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think OP realized how many more kids have been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD. 6-8 actually seems low based on our experience and that is only ones that parents and kids have said something-after with other posted that kids and families more open now about it as more acceptable/understood, but clearly not by all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They tend to group IEP/504 kids in one class so the special Ed teacher can stay in there most of the day. It sucks.

I hope someone discriminates against your kids, too.

Who is discriminating against whom in this situation, PP? The school discriminating against special education children? Me discriminating against them because I'm pissed that my child is suffering the consequences of their bad behavior? At least once a week, the entire classroom gets punished because clustered together, these boys play off each other and everything gets escalated. It's just a really horrible situation for all the other kids all because everything has to center around this one group of kids and they're not allowed to be punished because they have an IEP or 504.

OP, I am the teacher that commented above. What grade is this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They tend to group IEP/504 kids in one class so the special Ed teacher can stay in there most of the day. It sucks.

I hope someone discriminates against your kids, too.

Who is discriminating against whom in this situation, PP? The school discriminating against special education children? Me discriminating against them because I'm pissed that my child is suffering the consequences of their bad behavior? At least once a week, the entire classroom gets punished because clustered together, these boys play off each other and everything gets escalated. It's just a really horrible situation for all the other kids all because everything has to center around this one group of kids and they're not allowed to be punished because they have an IEP or 504.

First time reading parent upset bc the kids exist. Usually is someone posting unhappy their kid is being made behavior buffer- other kid gets in trouble and told to sit by kid who didn’t misbehave- so good behavior kid gets moved away from their good behavior friends to become the buffer/punishment for the bad behavior kid. Here sounds like teacher isn’t doing that so good for them to try to control without making little kids the buffers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They tend to group IEP/504 kids in one class so the special Ed teacher can stay in there most of the day. It sucks.

I hope someone discriminates against your kids, too.

Who is discriminating against whom in this situation, PP? The school discriminating against special education children? Me discriminating against them because I'm pissed that my child is suffering the consequences of their bad behavior? At least once a week, the entire classroom gets punished because clustered together, these boys play off each other and everything gets escalated. It's just a really horrible situation for all the other kids all because everything has to center around this one group of kids and they're not allowed to be punished because they have an IEP or 504.

The bolded is not true. Also, not all ADHD kids are hyperactive or disturbing to others. Again, you are stereotyping, and I hope your kid will experience the same.

[Anonymous]

Get small group tracing written into the IEP. Or fight for a 1:1 using different curriculum- those always end up in an empty classroom or off in a quiet corner somewhere.

[Anonymous]

My DC is ADHD is in one of these cluster classes. Unfortunately many of the kids in the class are slower than average. They aren’t so slow that they qualify for special education they just aren’t very bright.

Im frustrated because my ADHD DC kid is extremely bright and the slower kids hold him back. He’s bored so he gets frustrated and acts out. He often gets sent to the AAP classroom because they are moving at a quicker pace and the classrooms are quiet so he in turn quiets down and gets his work done.

At some point a teacher expressed frustration and directly stated that my DC didn’t belong in that class because they functioned at a much higher level, even with ADHD, than the other kids including the non ADHD kids. Having the cognitively challenged kids and the ADHD kids in the same class room made her job more difficult and wasn’t fair to kid like mine who were given the opportunity capable of functioning at a higher level. It’s a waste all around really.