Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

What an idiot you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

I work in home health care and I think you are full of poopy.

There are MANY elders in their 70s, 80s and 90s who live on their own and do very well with just occasional assistance.

‘Everything is all good- until it’s not.’ Yeah, you know YOU could have a massive heart attack or stroke or blow an aneurysm while siting on your toilet dumping a poopy. Lots of middle aged people lose their lives in those ways every year. Should YOU have a babysitter living with you???

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this national news? It shouldn't be. Sucks for Savannah, but no one really cares.

Perhaps you live off the grid and are "too good for tv", but anyone with a tv knows The Today Show is a national program. Thus, they've at least heard of the show even if they hadn't watched it. The local and national news covers missing persons. Duh.

Not only that, but Savannah has been a moderator on presidential debates.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

Adult children cannot force this. Just shut your mouth, because you clearly have not been there.

In fact, I've been there. My two sisters and I we very close with our parents. We didn't need to force them to do anything. We discussed reasonably as a family. They lived independently into their 80s. FWIW, your last sentence speaks volumes about your personality.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

NP but you sound like a rich moron with your head in the clouds. And the bolded is a trite and meaningless statement.

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Anonymous wrote:Police are again searching the area around her home- both on foot and by helicopter. I get the sense they have not 100% ruled out her wandering off on foot (despite what they said at the press conference). Also: even though she was of sound mind, at her age, things can change quickly (and sudden medical episodes can cause mental changes).

+1 LEOs, FBI, K9s, family members, and drones haven't been able to locate an 84 year old woman who can't walk 50 yds without assistance, uses a cane and needs life-saving meds every 24 hours. .

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

NP but you sound like a rich moron with your head in the clouds. And the bolded is a trite and meaningless statement.

It's neither trite nor meaningless.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think there was major evidence of a crime like blood. It says the family went to the house and then searched around for an hour before calling police. If they had seen evidence of a major crime, they wouldn't have been wandering the nearby neighborhood and property for an hour looking for her. The house was open, I am sure they looked all through the house first in case she had fallen etc..and then they still searched for an hour before calling police.

I don't think there was blood, but the article makes it sound like it's not just the medicine. It specifically says that there is evidence of a crime. Her being missing without her medicine and nothing more would not constitute evidence of a crime. I bet they found a broken window/forced entry point or something along those lines.

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Anonymous wrote:Police are again searching the area around her home- both on foot and by helicopter. I get the sense they have not 100% ruled out her wandering off on foot (despite what they said at the press conference). Also: even though she was of sound mind, at her age, things can change quickly (and sudden medical episodes can cause mental changes).

+1 LEOs, FBI, K9s, family members, and drones haven't been able to locate an 84 year old woman who can't walk 50 yds without assistance, uses a cane and needs life-saving meds every 24 hours. .

I feel like (even if temporary or due to medical episodes or medication) disorientation or confusion can’t ever be 100% ruled out at her age. I also think that sometimes people’s bodies can do things that don’t otherwise seem possible- meaning she could have gotten further than 50 yards.

It seems they have extensively searched the area. I really hope they have gone door to door and made contact with all homeowners. This area has more elderly than most- and a higher percentage of homes that might be temporarily unoccupied (or are owned by retirees who are off traveling). Most of the homes have a pool and some have outbuildings like sheds or even small pool casitas. If she was somehow able to wander further than expected, she could very well be on someone’s property (god forbid, drowned in someone’s pool or spa and the homeowner is out of town). Just my thoughts.

She also has a dog. Breed not mentioned- just described as “not a guard dog”. Probably a small lap dog. Maybe she took it out at night to pee, it ran off and she made an attempt to chase. Would somewhat explain the door left open (and the dog returning into the home later but no Nancy). Though, again, you wouldn’t think she’d have gotten far. But who knows?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think there was major evidence of a crime like blood. It says the family went to the house and then searched around for an hour before calling police. If they had seen evidence of a major crime, they wouldn't have been wandering the nearby neighborhood and property for an hour looking for her. The house was open, I am sure they looked all through the house first in case she had fallen etc..and then they still searched for an hour before calling police.

I don't think there was blood, but the article makes it sound like it's not just the medicine. It specifically says that there is evidence of a crime. Her being missing without her medicine and nothing more would not constitute evidence of a crime. I bet they found a broken window/forced entry point or something along those lines.

They also said her front door was open (I don't know if they mean unlocked or actually open), and that her purse and phone were still at the house. It could be those kind of things as well. Since she couldn't walk far and she didn't go to church, something clearly happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Police are again searching the area around her home- both on foot and by helicopter. I get the sense they have not 100% ruled out her wandering off on foot (despite what they said at the press conference). Also: even though she was of sound mind, at her age, things can change quickly (and sudden medical episodes can cause mental changes).

+1 LEOs, FBI, K9s, family members, and drones haven't been able to locate an 84 year old woman who can't walk 50 yds without assistance, uses a cane and needs life-saving meds every 24 hours. .

I feel like (even if temporary or due to medical episodes or medication) disorientation or confusion can’t ever be 100% ruled out at her age. I also think that sometimes people’s bodies can do things that don’t otherwise seem possible- meaning she could have gotten further than 50 yards.

It seems they have extensively searched the area. I really hope they have gone door to door and made contact with all homeowners. This area has more elderly than most- and a higher percentage of homes that might be temporarily unoccupied (or are owned by retirees who are off traveling). Most of the homes have a pool and some have outbuildings like sheds or even small pool casitas. If she was somehow able to wander further than expected, she could very well be on someone’s property (god forbid, drowned in someone’s pool or spa and the homeowner is out of town). Just my thoughts.

She also has a dog. Breed not mentioned- just described as “not a guard dog”. Probably a small lap dog. Maybe she took it out at night to pee, it ran off and she made an attempt to chase. Would somewhat explain the door left open (and the dog returning into the home later but no Nancy). Though, again, you wouldn’t think she’d have gotten far. But who knows?

+1 All your thoughts make sense.

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She had cameras at the house. They have to know more than they are saying.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope that her mom is okay. Can't imagine kidnapping an 80+ year old woman. They are a massive pain in the ass. Hope she is giving them hell!

OMG, I laughed at this! We are part of possibly a small club of people thinking this in relation to our own mom and too many people will dump on you for this. If it were my mother, they'd bring her back. In fact, I think they wouldn't even take her. They might leave crying after she verbally tore them to shreds. I saw an interview though with Savannah and her mom and her mom is a nice person and was a cheerleader for her. I do hope she is OK and I hope nobody gives you grief for your post.

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Anonymous wrote:She had cameras at the house. They have to know more than they are saying.

If she had working cameras, police would know what happened, right?