Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:I guess all red-leaning states will change their districts to be 90% red, just like Virginia did for the Democrats. Interesting idea, I could imagine those on the negative side will move to another state, maybe it will balance things out.

Maybe you missed this, but that already happened in red-leaning states.

Aren't the most gerrymandered states Dem states? Illinois for example. MA and MD are also heavily gerrymandered. California was already pretty gerrymandered. I'm sure there's differences on what constitutes "most" gerrymandered based on ratio of statewide vote to seats to how seats are drawn that don't reflect geographic voting patterns (like Illinois, with long spikes outward from Chicago). Nonetheless, the Democrats do not have a pretty history themselves when it comes to gerrymandering. And it's worth noting that Trump asked a bunch of GOP states to gerrymander, and most said no. They refused. Virginia didn't have to do this either.

The outcome of this is that VA politics is likely going to become incredibly poisoned going forward, and I mean internal state politics. And that's not a good thing for the state given the relative narrowness of the referendum outcome. Virginia is not a deep blue state that can get away with carving out one or two more safe seats.

The opposite, actually. Most gerrymandered states are red: https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card/

Anyone with two brain cells knows that Rs have to cheat to win, including claiming that election fraud caused Trump to lose in 2020 even though there have been zero evidence to support this.

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Anonymous wrote:This will all be changed on a federal level. And rightfully so.

Fairfax county representatives should not be representing counties farther away from them than New Jersey is to them. Larger states, it can be necessary (TX can take 10+ hours to drive across, for instance.)

two wrongs dont make a right and that is a texas issue not a virginia, why would you take away almost half the population's vote for an issue in texas?

Because it impacts control of the US Congress. Why is it ok for one state to cheat and another not to be able to retaliate?

See, this is the issue - GOP thinks Texas gerrymandering is fine, that the Koch Lock on Wsconsin and Missouri are fine, that Ohio gerrymadering is great - but when a blue state does it to try to balance it out, the MAGAs get all salty. Rules for thee but not for me.

Honey it impacts control of half the Congress, the House. Cannot get laws without Senate. All the hearings and investigations in the world don't mean shit to a prez who does not care about rule of law.

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Anonymous wrote:This will all be changed on a federal level. And rightfully so.

Fairfax county representatives should not be representing counties farther away from them than New Jersey is to them. Larger states, it can be necessary (TX can take 10+ hours to drive across, for instance.)

two wrongs dont make a right and that is a texas issue not a virginia, why would you take away almost half the population's vote for an issue in texas?

So, what, just let the bad guys win because you don’t like it when people play by the same rules?

GTFO. We are try to save the country meemaw.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

Maybe farmers should stop sending food to nova. That'd get you to shut up really quick.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

Maybe farmers should stop sending food to nova. That'd get you to shut up really quick.

What farmers are actually growing food and not fuel corn or cattle feed? I feel like 2/3 of my fresh grocery basket is coming from abroad.

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Anonymous wrote:-Early in-person: +1.6% Democrat
-Election Day in-person: +9% GOP
-Mail-in Ballots: +45% Democrat

Yes we covered this last night. When the cult leader thinks mail in ballots are evil, cult members don’t vote using mail in ballots.

They aren't evil per se. They are, however, the easiest way to introduce fraud into an election

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Anonymous wrote:-Early in-person: +1.6% Democrat
-Election Day in-person: +9% GOP
-Mail-in Ballots: +45% Democrat

60% of the Dems in our family mailed in their ballots.

MAGAs are too dumb to figure it out.

The mail in numbers should not be such outliers. You’re implying that most Democrats mailed in their ballots. If that’s so, why are there so many democrats booths at the polls?

I didn’t imply that. Just saying that anecdotally that some Dems do take advantage of mail-in voting.

Why exactly do you think the numbers should be more balanced? Why would Rs mail-in when their party is against it?

The party isn't against them. The party wants more control over them

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

Maybe farmers should stop sending food to nova. That'd get you to shut up really quick.

Can you imagine the pearl clutching and hand wringing if someone here posted that NoVA should stop sending their tax dollars to the rest of the state? I dream of a world where Republicans hold themselves to the same standards they hold Democrats to.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

You mean the counties that voted for Trump?

What’s the issue?

I guess if you believe you are smarter than a poor person, nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:-Early in-person: +1.6% Democrat
-Election Day in-person: +9% GOP
-Mail-in Ballots: +45% Democrat

60% of the Dems in our family mailed in their ballots.

MAGAs are too dumb to figure it out.

The mail in numbers should not be such outliers. You’re implying that most Democrats mailed in their ballots. If that’s so, why are there so many democrats booths at the polls?

I don’t vote in Virginia, do you all really have separate booths for Republican and Democratic voters? When you don’t even have party registration? Huh.

No we do not, idk what they are talking about. MAGA has been anti mail in vote so it’s not some big mystery why they don’t do it. I’m a democrat and I did in person early voting.

Outside the polling place there are usually dem booths and rep booths

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

Maybe farmers should stop sending food to nova. That'd get you to shut up really quick.

Can you imagine the pearl clutching and hand wringing if someone here posted that NoVA should stop sending their tax dollars to the rest of the state? I dream of a world where Republicans hold themselves to the same standards they hold Democrats to.

Lots of comments online today from MAGAs about how RoVA should secede and/or join West Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

You mean the counties that voted for Trump?

What’s the issue?

There's no issue, PP is just worried that Democrats will actually help those poor VA counties instead of flogging culture war wedge issues like their current Republican representatives do.

Yeah, imagine having a representative who actually wants to help people in their district m.

Give Ds a chance. You might actually appreciate having someone who cares about your health, education, job, economy, etc.

I'm from MA. I know the future.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

Maybe farmers should stop sending food to nova. That'd get you to shut up really quick.

What farmers are actually growing food and not fuel corn or cattle feed? I feel like 2/3 of my fresh grocery basket is coming from abroad.

This. Farmers are growing crops for ethanol production and livestock feed.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

So you are saving the "poors" from themselves.....


What we have here are the government workers in VA controlling the state. Very different from TX

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

So support a national gerrymandering ban. If you don't, it is just hypocrisy.

Meanwhile people in DC do not have any congressional representation so... Shrug.

I do support one. I’m disgusted. The only good that came out of this is that Dems have come out of the closet proving themselves to be mirrors of MAGA. The is no denying it anymore. NONE. What we share in common is a disdain for Trump. Where we part is autonomy for the people. They don’t like Trump because they don’t like his brand of authoritarianism. They are ok with it as long as it is theirs.

Oh please. The MAGA hand wringing is absurd. Trump’s nominees literally will not admit in their confirmation hearings that Trump lost the 2020 election. The level of insanity from MAGA cannot be understated and their willingness to lie and cheat to hold power is unprecedented.

Says the pot calling the kettle black.

Do you think Trump lost the election in 2020?

Democrats are inconveniently attached to facts and reality.

OK then, can you define what a WOMAN is?

I am baffled by the MAGA obsession with gender. Seriously, why do you care so much? And why do you care so little about trying to overthrow the 2020 election, Trump suing US tax payers for $10 billion dollars, Trump accepting a jumbo airline from Qatar, war in Iran, ICE shooting citizens in the streets, and on and on. I just don’t understand.

Conservatives are the top consumers of trans porn and blow Grindr up everywhere they congregate. They hate themselves for it, so they blame shift and punish the rest of us.

Source for this?

The middle school times...