Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:I guess all red-leaning states will change their districts to be 90% red, just like Virginia did for the Democrats. Interesting idea, I could imagine those on the negative side will move to another state, maybe it will balance things out.

They're not able to because they .mathematically can't. As it is the Texas and Florida pushes may backfire on the Rs (a dummy mander).

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Anonymous wrote:-Early in-person: +1.6% Democrat
-Election Day in-person: +9% GOP
-Mail-in Ballots: +45% Democrat

60% of the Dems in our family mailed in their ballots.

MAGAs are too dumb to figure it out.

The mail in numbers should not be such outliers. You’re implying that most Democrats mailed in their ballots. If that’s so, why are there so many democrats booths at the polls?

I didn’t imply that. Just saying that anecdotally that some Dems do take advantage of mail-in voting.

Why exactly do you think the numbers should be more balanced? Why would Rs mail-in when their party is against it?

Exactly. the GOP has spent the last 6 years railing against mail in voting, this despite Utah, a highly partisan red state, being one of the biggest users of mail in ballots.

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Anonymous wrote:wow they erased almost half of the entire state's vote, this is wild

They didn’t “erase” the vote. That side *lost* the vote. Its not far off from the margins of the 2024 election and hey look at that— only the Republican candidate got sworn in as President.

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Anonymous wrote:This will all be changed on a federal level. And rightfully so.

Fairfax county representatives should not be representing counties farther away from them than New Jersey is to them. Larger states, it can be necessary (TX can take 10+ hours to drive across, for instance.)

two wrongs dont make a right and that is a texas issue not a virginia, why would you take away almost half the population's vote for an issue in texas?

Because it impacts control of the US Congress. Why is it ok for one state to cheat and another not to be able to retaliate?

See, this is the issue - GOP thinks Texas gerrymandering is fine, that the Koch Lock on Wsconsin and Missouri are fine, that Ohio gerrymadering is great - but when a blue state does it to try to balance it out, the MAGAs get all salty. Rules for thee but not for me.

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Anonymous wrote:This will all be changed on a federal level. And rightfully so.

Fairfax county representatives should not be representing counties farther away from them than New Jersey is to them. Larger states, it can be necessary (TX can take 10+ hours to drive across, for instance.)

two wrongs dont make a right and that is a texas issue not a virginia, why would you take away almost half the population's vote for an issue in texas?

So you’re vehemently opposed to efforts to redraw Florida, right?

yes everyone should be not sure why that matters here we are in va are you one of those people who think its ok to assault your spouse because the neighbor does it

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Anonymous wrote:This will all be changed on a federal level. And rightfully so.

Fairfax county representatives should not be representing counties farther away from them than New Jersey is to them. Larger states, it can be necessary (TX can take 10+ hours to drive across, for instance.)

two wrongs dont make a right and that is a texas issue not a virginia, why would you take away almost half the population's vote for an issue in texas?

Virginians correctly perceived that other states' gerrymandering affects the entire country. Look at how few Republicans are willing to stand up to the most nakedly corrupt and incompetent administration we've ever had. If Republicans in other states continue to entrench their majority, the only response is for Democrats to play by the same rules.

this is the true tyranny taking away people's vote

So are the various voter suppression tools employed such as limiting the number of voting booths in blue precincts, thus forcing long lines; or requiring an ID that costs money, in order to vote, or putting polling places in car-dependent locations thus forcing poor people to take a bus or not vote at all, see the problem? the GOP is ant-democratic, so complaining about this is really a fools errand. How about supporting voter reform that bans gerrymandering and makes it easy and free for people entitled to vote, to vote?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess all red-leaning states will change their districts to be 90% red, just like Virginia did for the Democrats. Interesting idea, I could imagine those on the negative side will move to another state, maybe it will balance things out.

Maybe you missed this, but that already happened in red-leaning states.

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Margin of victory give VA Supreme Court cover when they rule the effort was invalid and current 6/5 layout should remain.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

No, the US Capitol is about 6 miles from Arlington, VA.

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Anonymous wrote:This will all be changed on a federal level. And rightfully so.

Fairfax county representatives should not be representing counties farther away from them than New Jersey is to them. Larger states, it can be necessary (TX can take 10+ hours to drive across, for instance.)

two wrongs dont make a right and that is a texas issue not a virginia, why would you take away almost half the population's vote for an issue in texas?

So you’re vehemently opposed to efforts to redraw Florida, right?

yes everyone should be not sure why that matters here we are in va are you one of those people who think its ok to assault your spouse because the neighbor does it

I'm not sure how else to say this so I'm just going to come out and say it: you are not a smart person, at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess all red-leaning states will change their districts to be 90% red, just like Virginia did for the Democrats. Interesting idea, I could imagine those on the negative side will move to another state, maybe it will balance things out.

Maybe you missed this, but that already happened in red-leaning states.

Aren't the most gerrymandered states Dem states? Illinois for example. MA and MD are also heavily gerrymandered. California was already pretty gerrymandered. I'm sure there's differences on what constitutes "most" gerrymandered based on ratio of statewide vote to seats to how seats are drawn that don't reflect geographic voting patterns (like Illinois, with long spikes outward from Chicago). Nonetheless, the Democrats do not have a pretty history themselves when it comes to gerrymandering. And it's worth noting that Trump asked a bunch of GOP states to gerrymander, and most said no. They refused. Virginia didn't have to do this either.

The outcome of this is that VA politics is likely going to become incredibly poisoned going forward, and I mean internal state politics. And that's not a good thing for the state given the relative narrowness of the referendum outcome. Virginia is not a deep blue state that can get away with carving out one or two more safe seats.

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This referendum is stupid, and the precedent will come back to haunt everyone. What's worse, it's not even necessary. Democrats are going to win back the House and the Senate, even without this.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess all red-leaning states will change their districts to be 90% red, just like Virginia did for the Democrats. Interesting idea, I could imagine those on the negative side will move to another state, maybe it will balance things out.

Maybe you missed this, but that already happened in red-leaning states.

Aren't the most gerrymandered states Dem states? Illinois for example. MA and MD are also heavily gerrymandered. California was already pretty gerrymandered. I'm sure there's differences on what constitutes "most" gerrymandered based on ratio of statewide vote to seats to how seats are drawn that don't reflect geographic voting patterns (like Illinois, with long spikes outward from Chicago). Nonetheless, the Democrats do not have a pretty history themselves when it comes to gerrymandering. And it's worth noting that Trump asked a bunch of GOP states to gerrymander, and most said no. They refused. Virginia didn't have to do this either.

The outcome of this is that VA politics is likely going to become incredibly poisoned going forward, and I mean internal state politics. And that's not a good thing for the state given the relative narrowness of the referendum outcome. Virginia is not a deep blue state that can get away with carving out one or two more safe seats.

The opposite, actually. Most gerrymandered states are red: https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card/

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Virginia. You're no better than Texas now. I hope you're proud.

+1 This state is total trash.

Yep. Democracy in Virginia died in broad daylight.

Rare for democracy to die via referendum. Unprecedented even.

The hypocrisy is stunning. TX legislature forcing it through, dandy. Voters supporting it? Anti Democratic!

Democrats apparently are just supposed to sit there while Republicans steal things.

Well, see, Republicans deserve to be in power whether the people want them there or not!

The richest counties in VA will now control the poorest counties. Think about that

Why don’t you think about this. Farming communities and depressed states like West Virginia have been voting against their interests for decades. Has WV gotten any been in the decades of Republican rule? Have fertilizers, tariffs, and gasoline prices crushed Republican strong hold rural states? Yes. Farm bankruptcies (Chapter 12) jumped 46% in 2025.

While the purpose was to counter a lawless Gerrymandering Republican Party who consistently vote against federal bans, perhaps this will have the effect of actually helping people. You know Dems don’t want to give Elon another tax break, levy a tariff on farming equipment, or take away healthcare.

Voters in DC vote against their own interests ALL THE TIME.