Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

Sure if you stopped reading at “restore fairness” and didn’t finish the sentence “to upcoming elections” then yes I understand why you were confused. Again, you can do a lot of self-improvement before you need to go back to the polls— I repeat my suggestion to read Toni Morrison but if reading a sentence in full is the problem, maybe something a little easier…

You seem a little preoccupied with me. I'm not the issue. I understand all the issues. I'm telling you where this debate is going, and where the big legal vulnerability here is. You can pretend it doesn't exist, but it is real. This is simply not going to fly with the courts.

DP. You are uninformed and totally full of shit. As expected.

All the name calling and swearing and partisan chest thumping is curiously Trump-esque, and makes you seem immature and kinda dumb.

This is an excellent object lesson, since you’ll notice it was the Republicans calling names until they were shown to be foolish, and now they’re the ones weeping about name coloring. In the words of AOC, WAH WAH WAH.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

I don't think saying the ballot language was unclear is a substantive argument. I am not young and I've voted on many many ballot initiatives in many elections. They are a sentence or two and always have to simplify a complex issue. Most voters that bother to vote on ballot initiatives know the what and why of their vote before they even see the ballot.

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The only confusing aspect of the referendum was the MAGA propaganda. And that was international.

We need Jones to go after these groups trying to illegally interfere with elections.

"Restore fairness" is an opinion, therefore it introduces bias into the question that could mislead a voter because who doesn't want to be fair. But many people don't actually consider the proposed maps to be fair. Of course they weren't displayed at polling locations otherwise voters would have more easily caught on to the dishonesty.

The Republicans. In Texas. Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

Sure if you stopped reading at “restore fairness” and didn’t finish the sentence “to upcoming elections” then yes I understand why you were confused. Again, you can do a lot of self-improvement before you need to go back to the polls— I repeat my suggestion to read Toni Morrison but if reading a sentence in full is the problem, maybe something a little easier…

You seem a little preoccupied with me. I'm not the issue. I understand all the issues. I'm telling you where this debate is going, and where the big legal vulnerability here is. You can pretend it doesn't exist, but it is real. This is simply not going to fly with the courts.

DP. You are uninformed and totally full of shit. As expected.

All the name calling and swearing and partisan chest thumping is curiously Trump-esque, and makes you seem immature and kinda dumb.

This is an excellent object lesson, since you’ll notice it was the Republicans calling names until they were shown to be foolish, and now they’re the ones weeping about name coloring. In the words of AOC, WAH WAH WAH.

+100

+1

If you don’t like it, push the GOP to support a federal ban.

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It's done
Redistricted Virginians will either notice they got screwed or not, depending on if they need constituent services and new rep staff is ineffective.
So eventually you will get tired hopefully by page 100.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Hm. Perhaps if Republicans spent less time banning books and more time reading them, they could acquire greater fluency with the language.

Here's the language:

“Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

A normal person is not going to know what "restore fairness" means. It also doesn't mention that redistricting in the middle of a decade is very unusual. It's also misleading because it refers to "the upcoming elections" but this initiative actually covers the next two election cycles.

You can't leave shit out or try to hide the ball about what you're really doing.

"Restore fairness"? LOL. Is that because "make the world a better place" was too many words?

It's not even a description. It's an opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Hm. Perhaps if Republicans spent less time banning books and more time reading them, they could acquire greater fluency with the language.

Here's the language:

“Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

A normal person is not going to know what "restore fairness" means. It also doesn't mention that redistricting in the middle of a decade is very unusual. It's also misleading because it refers to "the upcoming elections" but this initiative actually covers the next two election cycles.

You can't leave shit out or try to hide the ball about what you're really doing.

"Restore fairness"? LOL. Is that because "make the world a better place" was too many words?

It's not even a description. It's an opinion.

They could have left out "to restore fairness." Most people are not paying as much attention as those posting on this thread. It was deliberately deceptive. There was no reason to have that phrase in the vote. It definitely added bias.

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Anonymous wrote:It's done
Redistricted Virginians will either notice they got screwed or not, depending on if they need constituent services and new rep staff is ineffective.
So eventually you will get tired hopefully by page 100.

They might be relieved to finally have representation from someone actually trying to help them instead of playing stupid MAGA games.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Hm. Perhaps if Republicans spent less time banning books and more time reading them, they could acquire greater fluency with the language.

Here's the language:

“Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

A normal person is not going to know what "restore fairness" means. It also doesn't mention that redistricting in the middle of a decade is very unusual. It's also misleading because it refers to "the upcoming elections" but this initiative actually covers the next two election cycles.

You can't leave shit out or try to hide the ball about what you're really doing.

"Restore fairness"? LOL. Is that because "make the world a better place" was too many words?

It's not even a description. It's an opinion.

They could have left out "to restore fairness." Most people are not paying as much attention as those posting on this thread. It was deliberately deceptive. There was no reason to have that phrase in the vote. It definitely added bias.

Maybe you were confused by it, but most people understood the meaning because we were paying attention.

We saw how Trump ordered red states to gerrymander mid-cycle.

We saw TX, MO, NC, OH all working to steal seats.

We saw just how unfair that was.

If you think gerrymandering is unfair (which is objectively is), then push the GOP to support a national ban.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Hm. Perhaps if Republicans spent less time banning books and more time reading them, they could acquire greater fluency with the language.

Here's the language:

“Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

A normal person is not going to know what "restore fairness" means. It also doesn't mention that redistricting in the middle of a decade is very unusual. It's also misleading because it refers to "the upcoming elections" but this initiative actually covers the next two election cycles.

You can't leave shit out or try to hide the ball about what you're really doing.

"Restore fairness"? LOL. Is that because "make the world a better place" was too many words?

It's not even a description. It's an opinion.

They could have left out "to restore fairness." Most people are not paying as much attention as those posting on this thread. It was deliberately deceptive. There was no reason to have that phrase in the vote. It definitely added bias.

If it was so deceptive, it would seemingly have influenced the voting pattern across the districts in Virginia and yet it didn't seem to do that at all.

It was motivating for an awful lot of democratic party and independents to come out and try to get the state redistricted. They succeeded.

It did not succeed in some of the more Republican areas of the state. So it doesn't seem that it confused voters of either persuasion.

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Doesn’t matter now. A judge has blocked it.

The same way judges blocked various Trump agenda items. Which was always cheered here.

Well, now it’s the dems turn to be blocked by a judge.

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This shows the language was crystal clear, and Republicans were more fired up about the GOP losing national representation than Democrats who had misgivings about dumping the nonpartisan commission and having representatives who would be busy serving constituents a hundred miles away. Just like we saw from posters on this thread all these weeks leading up to the vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Hm. Perhaps if Republicans spent less time banning books and more time reading them, they could acquire greater fluency with the language.

Here's the language:

“Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

A normal person is not going to know what "restore fairness" means. It also doesn't mention that redistricting in the middle of a decade is very unusual. It's also misleading because it refers to "the upcoming elections" but this initiative actually covers the next two election cycles.

You can't leave shit out or try to hide the ball about what you're really doing.

"Restore fairness"? LOL. Is that because "make the world a better place" was too many words?

It's not even a description. It's an opinion.

They could have left out "to restore fairness." Most people are not paying as much attention as those posting on this thread. It was deliberately deceptive. There was no reason to have that phrase in the vote. It definitely added bias.

Is your opinion that what Texas did was fair? And are you aware that the U.S House of representatives passes laws that impact Virginia voters?

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t matter now. A judge has blocked it.

The same way judges blocked various Trump agenda items. Which was always cheered here.

Well, now it’s the dems turn to be blocked by a judge.

Republicans forum shop for activist judges who get swatted down all the time (hello, Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals!). This is nothing new, and they will lose.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Hm. Perhaps if Republicans spent less time banning books and more time reading them, they could acquire greater fluency with the language.

Here's the language:

“Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

A normal person is not going to know what "restore fairness" means. It also doesn't mention that redistricting in the middle of a decade is very unusual. It's also misleading because it refers to "the upcoming elections" but this initiative actually covers the next two election cycles.

You can't leave shit out or try to hide the ball about what you're really doing.

"Restore fairness"? LOL. Is that because "make the world a better place" was too many words?

It's not even a description. It's an opinion.

They could have left out "to restore fairness." Most people are not paying as much attention as those posting on this thread. It was deliberately deceptive. There was no reason to have that phrase in the vote. It definitely added bias.

If it was so deceptive, it would seemingly have influenced the voting pattern across the districts in Virginia and yet it didn't seem to do that at all.

It was motivating for an awful lot of democratic party and independents to come out and try to get the state redistricted. They succeeded.

It did not succeed in some of the more Republican areas of the state. So it doesn't seem that it confused voters of either persuasion.

Some questionable logic here. If I was a Democrat who wanted this to pass, I would just bombard Democratic areas with ads that say dumb, inflammatory things like "vote for this if you hate Trump." If I was a Republican who didn't want this to pass, I would bombard Republican areas with ads that said dumb, inflammatory things like "vote against this if you aren't radical leftist who wants to destroy America." That would produce the same voting patterns, while having nothing to do with the substance of the proposal.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.