MOCO BOE update: Beidleman Report summary

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

This whole thread is mainly assumptions and gossip. What did you expect? It's mostly posted by the same two people who love to hate all things MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators. The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:County Exec Elrich is calling for more direct county control and oversight of MCPS in light of the Beidleman debacle.

SOURCE: https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023/09/08/county-leaders-renew-push-for-oversight-on-education-spending/

A number of county leaders around the state say requirements to increase spending on education need to be coupled with greater authority for them to oversee that spending.

Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich (D), a former math teacher, said his relationship with his school system is sometimes frustrating and often relegates his role to being an ATM.

He and other county leaders are renewing a call for a larger role in overseeing how education dollars are spent.

“We do not have a truly cooperative, interactive relationship, at this point, but nobody does,” Elrich said. “Montgomery County is not unique. You’ll find these kinds of arguments all around the state between county governments and the local school boards. We’re like a money machine but we have no power in how the money gets tapped at some point.”

Education spending represents a large portion of county budgets. Montgomery County sends a total of $3 billion to its school system. In many counties, spending on education, including state aid, represents nearly half of the annual budget.

Implementing the Blueprint for Maryland’s Future, a 10-year, multi-billion-dollar education reform plan, will require even more money from local governments.

“The county has no authority,” he said. “We can’t even, for example, look at a budget line item and say we don’t think you should do that program. We’re not going to fund that program and we want you to fund a different program. County has no ability to do that. We’re restricted to giving the school system the same amount of money that it had last year, adjusted for population growth and inflation. That’s our whopping authority over there.”

This! If it’s such a huge part of the council’s overall budget, why can’t they have more say? From the article, it sounds like other counties have more collaborative relationships with their schools systems that allow for greater input. More transparency is needed throughout MCPS and I hope other members of the council start voicing their support for this!

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Not the PP, but my issue is that every. single. step. of this process has been driven by Washington Post coverage rather than by any sense of responsibility to taxpayers, teachers, or the children in the care of MCPS.

Placing Beidelman on leave only happened after the WaPo report. Clarifying the role of the (non) impartial external investigation only happened after a follow-up report. One of the administrators implicated was given a promotion and a raise before reporters started asking questions and the promotion was recinded.

At every single step, MCPS has done the wrong thing until shamed publicly for their obfuscation, corruption, and cronyism. So, what do I want? I want MCPS leadership to be driven by a sense of service to the community and to the children we trust to their care, not just papering over abusers until they get caught.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Was he fired or did he resign? Will the admins who are currently on leave, getting paid to do nothing, be fired? Or promoted? Has Dr. Biedleman been fired?

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Was he fired or did he resign? Will the admins who are currently on leave, getting paid to do nothing, be fired? Or promoted? Has Dr. Biedleman been fired?

These are great questions....and if Beidleman and the admins don't get fired, then we protest. But putting someone on leave is usually the first step to that process. And that's why we have to remain vigilant and noisy and keep up with this story as it develops.

Which means when the IG concludes its investigation into Beidleman, parents and educators have to rally if the report finds him guilty of his transgressions and MCPS decides to retain him.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Was he fired or did he resign? Will the admins who are currently on leave, getting paid to do nothing, be fired? Or promoted? Has Dr. Biedleman been fired?

These are great questions....and if Beidleman and the admins don't get fired, then we protest. But putting someone on leave is usually the first step to that process. And that's why we have to remain vigilant and noisy and keep up with this story as it develops.

Which means when the IG concludes its investigation into Beidleman, parents and educators have to rally if the report finds him guilty of his transgressions and MCPS decides to retain him.

We really don't know whether these staff are on leave as a first step to firing them, or as a holding place before a new, higher-paying position is found for them. MCPS has given us no reason to believe they will be fired, based on its past actions. More likely, they will all get a raise.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Was he fired or did he resign? Will the admins who are currently on leave, getting paid to do nothing, be fired? Or promoted? Has Dr. Biedleman been fired?

These are great questions....and if Beidleman and the admins don't get fired, then we protest. But putting someone on leave is usually the first step to that process. And that's why we have to remain vigilant and noisy and keep up with this story as it develops.

Which means when the IG concludes its investigation into Beidleman, parents and educators have to rally if the report finds him guilty of his transgressions and MCPS decides to retain him.

We really don't know whether these staff are on leave as a first step to firing them, or as a holding place before a new, higher-paying position is found for them. MCPS has given us no reason to believe they will be fired, based on its past actions. More likely, they will all get a raise.

Even though we don't know a lot of things that doesn't mean we can't gossip or make up conspiracy theories.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Was he fired or did he resign? Will the admins who are currently on leave, getting paid to do nothing, be fired? Or promoted? Has Dr. Biedleman been fired?

These are great questions....and if Beidleman and the admins don't get fired, then we protest. But putting someone on leave is usually the first step to that process. And that's why we have to remain vigilant and noisy and keep up with this story as it develops.

Which means when the IG concludes its investigation into Beidleman, parents and educators have to rally if the report finds him guilty of his transgressions and MCPS decides to retain him.

We really don't know whether these staff are on leave as a first step to firing them, or as a holding place before a new, higher-paying position is found for them. MCPS has given us no reason to believe they will be fired, based on its past actions. More likely, they will all get a raise.

Even though we don't know a lot of things that doesn't mean we can't gossip or make up conspiracy theories.

Gossip is saying employees on leave are going to be fired. Saying we don't know if they are going to be fired or promoted is not gossip, it's a fact.

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Posted on MCPS Careers: Coordinator, Compliance and Investigations. With a note: Potential for 2 coordinator positions

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Was he fired or did he resign? Will the admins who are currently on leave, getting paid to do nothing, be fired? Or promoted? Has Dr. Biedleman been fired?

These are great questions....and if Beidleman and the admins don't get fired, then we protest. But putting someone on leave is usually the first step to that process. And that's why we have to remain vigilant and noisy and keep up with this story as it develops.

Which means when the IG concludes its investigation into Beidleman, parents and educators have to rally if the report finds him guilty of his transgressions and MCPS decides to retain him.

What will it do for the two people on this board if Beidleman is fired? Will you sleep better at night? Will you be able to pay your bills and go on that trip you’ve always been dreaming of? Is it not enough that the process of promotion has been brought to light and is being fixed? Are you so dirty low down and miserable that you want to see people lose their jobs? You sound weak, miserable and lonely.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Not the PP, but my issue is that every. single. step. of this process has been driven by Washington Post coverage rather than by any sense of responsibility to taxpayers, teachers, or the children in the care of MCPS.

Placing Beidelman on leave only happened after the WaPo report. Clarifying the role of the (non) impartial external investigation only happened after a follow-up report. One of the administrators implicated was given a promotion and a raise before reporters started asking questions and the promotion was recinded.

At every single step, MCPS has done the wrong thing until shamed publicly for their obfuscation, corruption, and cronyism. So, what do I want? I want MCPS leadership to be driven by a sense of service to the community and to the children we trust to their care, not just papering over abusers until they get caught.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS changing its promotion process. Administrators under investigation can no longer be considered for a promotion.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/10/montgomery-co-schools-changes-promotion-process-after-former-principal-was-promoted-while-under-investigation/

Oh good, they will just wait until they close the "investigation" and promote them afterwards. What a huge improvement.

Umm that is an improvement. Means that would need to be checked as part of the process and would help ensure people who have potentially done some inappropriate are not be rewarded and given more authority.

??? Where does it say they can not be promoted after an investigation? You made a big assumption in your comment.

I don't understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying that anyone who is ACCUSED of wrongdoing should never be promoted even if the accusations and findings have cleared them?

Of course, that depends on how much you trust the investigative process, which clearly MCPS's is not to be trusted since there was direct manipulation and cover-ups in the Beidleman case, but assuming the investigative process was reliable and trustworthy, someone who was cleared of wrongdoing should not have a scarlet letter on them professionally. If they are found guilty, then yes. But if not, and assuming the investigative process is fair and credible, why should they banned from progressing professionally?

DP. I don't understand what you don't understand. Obviously, PP and many others do not trust the investigative process. Since the Biedleman issue came to light, MCPS has said very little about what they are doing about it. This change has been publicized to make people think they are doing something about it. What a lot of us think in reaction to it is this does absolutely nothing to keep students or staff safe. They need to fire abusive administrators The timing of their promotion is meaningless. They should not be employed by MCPS.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening though....Dr. Murphy is gone, two admins were placed on leave with more staff actions to come....so...what's the issue?

Was he fired or did he resign? Will the admins who are currently on leave, getting paid to do nothing, be fired? Or promoted? Has Dr. Biedleman been fired?

These are great questions....and if Beidleman and the admins don't get fired, then we protest. But putting someone on leave is usually the first step to that process. And that's why we have to remain vigilant and noisy and keep up with this story as it develops.

Which means when the IG concludes its investigation into Beidleman, parents and educators have to rally if the report finds him guilty of his transgressions and MCPS decides to retain him.

What will it do for the two people on this board if Beidleman is fired? Will you sleep better at night? Will you be able to pay your bills and go on that trip you’ve always been dreaming of? Is it not enough that the process of promotion has been brought to light and is being fixed? Are you so dirty low down and miserable that you want to see people lose their jobs? You sound weak, miserable and lonely.

What do you gain from defending him fervently from strangers on an anonymous forum? Is he going to pay your light bill or give a thrill ride in bed tonight? You sound desperate, pathetic and lacking in morals or character.