I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Says a person who didn’t have to teach concurrent and doesn’t know the absolute ineffective hell it is

Of course! Says a mom who would like to make sure kids don't go in contagious and kids don't get disconnected from school. The entire developed world has been working on concurrent for 18 months. Surely there have been developments beyond 'absolute ineffective hell'?

Not in school. It was barely sustainable this spring let alone a whole school year when every day the amount of students trying to tune in concurrently will be unknown and changing. They can’t rely on that for a whole school year.

I taught sixth grade last year. I had 10 kids in the classroom and 17 children at home. By May, attendance was sporadic. The kids wanted to stay home. They didn't enjoy being 6 ft apart, they didn't enjoy recess and they didn't enjoy not being able to interact with the other classes. If the school system is lenient with concurrent instruction I think they'll definitely be parents that take advantage of it. Which will result in a worse in classroom experience.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Ok. You sound like a peach. You’ll have google meet open daily if your principal asks you to. It’s either that or deal with sick kids in class.

DP here, as the teacher I can tell you that concurrent was horrible last year. If my principal has us keep a virtual window open to homes, many teachers may choose not to interact with the students at home.

Luckily last spring we received a training that said that we could just provide asynchronous work for students at home or we could turn on the camera and not interact with them or or we could have a full concurrent experience. Let's see what teachers choose. 😀

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Anonymous wrote:No quarantining necessary for other kids in class as long as they were masked.

Tbh I think that’s what schools will do. But what’s the policy going to be if a parent says “we are choosing to quarantine”? Cause we need a consistent policy on that.

I’m going with what 09:42 said.

Me too.

I think they’re going to allow kids to watch from home if they need to quarantine. I think what the school board approved was not concurrent the way we did in 2020-2021 / full time, not no concurrent whatsoever.

This is the only thing that makes sense to me. Otherwise too many kids out all the time and that will be tough for a teacher to deal with all year.

You all don’t get it. That is concurrent. In order to do this, the teacher has to have all of the tech stuff set up again. And keep camera on all day. It’s not happening. It’s not part of any of our job descriptions THIS YEAR as teachers. VDH, VDOE, FXHD, etc have to make new quarantine policies with the knowledge that there is no virtual to tap into anymore.

A kid will be home and will have to catch up. Or get assignments posted in Google classroom which teachers will probably still use.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Ok. You sound like a peach. You’ll have google meet open daily if your principal asks you to. It’s either that or deal with sick kids in class.

See, you say that until it’s your kid not getting small group remediation and support because I’m running to and from a google meet for a kid whose family wanted to hit OBX in the off season and have the kid log in from home. IF principals say have a google meet open, I’ll open it and that’s it. I’m not attending to a chat, checking that they’re actually paying attention or in any way deviating from the very needed in person instruction that needs to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:No quarantining necessary for other kids in class as long as they were masked.

Tbh I think that’s what schools will do. But what’s the policy going to be if a parent says “we are choosing to quarantine”? Cause we need a consistent policy on that.

I’m going with what 09:42 said.

Me too.

I think they’re going to allow kids to watch from home if they need to quarantine. I think what the school board approved was not concurrent the way we did in 2020-2021 / full time, not no concurrent whatsoever.

This is the only thing that makes sense to me. Otherwise too many kids out all the time and that will be tough for a teacher to deal with all year.

You all don’t get it. That is concurrent. In order to do this, the teacher has to have all of the tech stuff set up again. And keep camera on all day. It’s not happening. It’s not part of any of our job descriptions THIS YEAR as teachers. VDH, VDOE, FXHD, etc have to make new quarantine policies with the knowledge that there is no virtual to tap into anymore.

A kid will be home and will have to catch up. Or get assignments posted in Google classroom which teachers will probably still use.

Yep. All teachers know this. Some people think it’s possible to still have both but it isn’t. They catch up when they get back.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

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In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Says a person who didn’t have to teach concurrent and doesn’t know the absolute ineffective hell it is

Of course! Says a mom who would like to make sure kids don't go in contagious and kids don't get disconnected from school. The entire developed world has been working on concurrent for 18 months. Surely there have been developments beyond 'absolute ineffective hell'?

Not in school. It was barely sustainable this spring let alone a whole school year when every day the amount of students trying to tune in concurrently will be unknown and changing. They can’t rely on that for a whole school year.

I taught sixth grade last year. I had 10 kids in the classroom and 17 children at home. By May, attendance was sporadic. The kids wanted to stay home. They didn't enjoy being 6 ft apart, they didn't enjoy recess and they didn't enjoy not being able to interact with the other classes. If the school system is lenient with concurrent instruction I think they'll definitely be parents that take advantage of it. Which will result in a worse in classroom experience.

My DW teaches 6th grade. She says for most class periods she had about 15 in person and 5 at home. In person students would stay home and tune in because they stayed up too late, the parents had meetings and couldn’t drive the child to school (even though the child could walk) or they were going to Cracker Barrel for lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

But they won't be messed at lunch, or snack time, or recess - so we should still have them quarantine. Even though I am a vaccinated teacher I do not want to get COVID, no matter how reduced the symptoms and effects are.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Catching up from 2 weeks is a lot. I'll definitely go back and teach them the big things that we went over, but we're not going through every lesson.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

I really want to know whether vaccinated adults & kids have to quarantine or not.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Says a person who didn’t have to teach concurrent and doesn’t know the absolute ineffective hell it is

Of course! Says a mom who would like to make sure kids don't go in contagious and kids don't get disconnected from school. The entire developed world has been working on concurrent for 18 months. Surely there have been developments beyond 'absolute ineffective hell'?

Not in school. It was barely sustainable this spring let alone a whole school year when every day the amount of students trying to tune in concurrently will be unknown and changing. They can’t rely on that for a whole school year.

I taught sixth grade last year. I had 10 kids in the classroom and 17 children at home. By May, attendance was sporadic. The kids wanted to stay home. They didn't enjoy being 6 ft apart, they didn't enjoy recess and they didn't enjoy not being able to interact with the other classes. If the school system is lenient with concurrent instruction I think they'll definitely be parents that take advantage of it. Which will result in a worse in classroom experience.

My DW teaches 6th grade. She says for most class periods she had about 15 in person and 5 at home. In person students would stay home and tune in because they stayed up too late, the parents had meetings and couldn’t drive the child to school (even though the child could walk) or they were going to Cracker Barrel for lunch.

LOL, Cracker Barrel 😀. I had students had dentist appointments in the early morning or late afternoon and they just stayed home for the whole day.