I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.


I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.


The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.
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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


Right. That’s what we do during any year.
I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Catching up from 2 weeks is a lot. I'll definitely go back and teach them the big things that we went over, but we're not going through every lesson.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Catching up from 2 weeks is a lot. I'll definitely go back and teach them the big things that we went over, but we're not going through every lesson.


Right. That’s what we do during any year.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.


I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.


The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.


I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.


The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.


Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?
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What do you think the chances are that they will switch to virtual?

They may get a lot of pressure from the NEA.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.


I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.


I really want to know whether vaccinated adults & kids have to quarantine or not.


No they do not.
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Anonymous wrote:Concurrent sucks. Let’s not do that.

But what do we do about quarantining for COVID and COVID-like illnesses (AKA colds). How do we keep kids from falling behind when they catch a cold?

Or do we just ignore symptoms and send “sick” kids?


The thing is, pre Covid, kids just came back to school and worked with teachers to get caught up. I kind of feel like we need to stick with that rather than keep this “if you need concurrent for a few days you can have it” thing. Because it won’t just be for Covid. It’ll be when families go on vacation and want their kids to log in. It’ll be when kids just feel like staying home.


If one of my unvaccinated high schoolers is out with covid, they can catch up on their own when they come back. If they're smarter than the CDC, AMA, AAP, etc., they don't need to learn anything from me.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you think the chances are that they will switch to virtual?

They may get a lot of pressure from the NEA.


Teacher here. None.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you think the chances are that they will switch to virtual?

They may get a lot of pressure from the NEA.


Maybe I don’t fully understand VA law, but I’d say the chance is zero.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.


I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.


The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.


Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?


Concurrent instruction is not going to be decided by who wins the political power struggle. This will have very little to do with clout, and everything to do with the public health situation. It looks like by the time school starts, the situation might be bad enough to require flexibility with concurrent instruction.
Anonymous
So, 11 and under at school, all must wear masks. I get it, it makes sense. I would say, teachers should also wear masks. Now, 12 and older…. Masks, no masks? Vaccinated students and teachers, no mask I assume. I have this scenario in my head… 10 kids in a HS class are not vaccinated. They are expected to wear masks, but teachers have their hands full, and cannot make sure all un-vaxxed kids keep their mask on, because-TEACHING! Now, one un-vaxxed kid gets covid and spreads it to other unvaxxed kids in class. Will parents/admin blame the teacher for not enforcing masking of unvaxxed kids? Who is at fault? Parents for not vaccinating their kids? Should the high schools/middle schools have parents sign waivers that say they will not blame school/teacher/classmate if their unvaxxed kid gets covid now that vaccine is readily available? Just a thought!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Concurrent sucks. Let’s not do that.

But what do we do about quarantining for COVID and COVID-like illnesses (AKA colds). How do we keep kids from falling behind when they catch a cold?

Or do we just ignore symptoms and send “sick” kids?


The thing is, pre Covid, kids just came back to school and worked with teachers to get caught up. I kind of feel like we need to stick with that rather than keep this “if you need concurrent for a few days you can have it” thing. Because it won’t just be for Covid. It’ll be when families go on vacation and want their kids to log in. It’ll be when kids just feel like staying home.


If one of my unvaccinated high schoolers is out with covid, they can catch up on their own when they come back. If they're smarter than the CDC, AMA, AAP, etc., they don't need to learn anything from me.


Are you going to be that callous if one of your fully vaccinated students is out with covid?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So, 11 and under at school, all must wear masks. I get it, it makes sense. I would say, teachers should also wear masks. Now, 12 and older…. Masks, no masks? Vaccinated students and teachers, no mask I assume. I have this scenario in my head… 10 kids in a HS class are not vaccinated. They are expected to wear masks, but teachers have their hands full, and cannot make sure all un-vaxxed kids keep their mask on, because-TEACHING! Now, one un-vaxxed kid gets covid and spreads it to other unvaxxed kids in class. Will parents/admin blame the teacher for not enforcing masking of unvaxxed kids? Who is at fault? Parents for not vaccinating their kids? Should the high schools/middle schools have parents sign waivers that say they will not blame school/teacher/classmate if their unvaxxed kid gets covid now that vaccine is readily available? Just a thought!


I think we’ll see everyone required to mask.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So, 11 and under at school, all must wear masks. I get it, it makes sense. I would say, teachers should also wear masks. Now, 12 and older…. Masks, no masks? Vaccinated students and teachers, no mask I assume. I have this scenario in my head… 10 kids in a HS class are not vaccinated. They are expected to wear masks, but teachers have their hands full, and cannot make sure all un-vaxxed kids keep their mask on, because-TEACHING! Now, one un-vaxxed kid gets covid and spreads it to other unvaxxed kids in class. Will parents/admin blame the teacher for not enforcing masking of unvaxxed kids? Who is at fault? Parents for not vaccinating their kids? Should the high schools/middle schools have parents sign waivers that say they will not blame school/teacher/classmate if their unvaxxed kid gets covid now that vaccine is readily available? Just a thought!


It’s not that hard. Unvaxxed kids could have a designation next to their name in SIS, similar to a medical flag. That lets the teacher know this kid needs to be wearing a mask, and reminds them every day at attendance (in every single class). Teens know what to do. They can wear their mask or face consequences like suspension for reckless behavior.
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