Is your MSer learning the 13 Guiding Principles of BLM?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Prepare for your head to explode: I taught the 13 principles to my kindergarteners. Each class in our school adopted one of the principles to study in depth, from prek to 8th grade.

If you seriously taught kindergarteners about homosexuality and transgender issues then I really hope you get fired. And that's not even considering the political indoctrination which should also be a fireable offense.

I cannot believe what this country has come to that this is happening in our public schools.

WTAF is WRONG with you? Of course you teach children to be accepting of everyone. That includes homosexuals and transgender people. You don't fire teachers for teaching that. The very fact that you would suggest such a thing announces that you are clearly a defective person of bad character who gets absolutely NO say in what children are taught. Sit down. And shut up. Your opinions are not valid and you are not to share them anymore.

New poster. What is WRONG with you? Of course I teach my kids to be accepting of everyone. That doesn't mean I want my kids teacher telling my Kindergartener what it means to be transgender and non-binary. Those our conversations between me and my child. My child is 5 and does not need to know that yet and does not have the maturity to even understand what that means. The last I checked, parents get to decide when and how to teach their kids about these issues. Where do schools get off thinking this is appropriate in Kindergarten? My parents had to sign a permission slip for me to learn about sex ed and puberty in 5th and 6th grade but now it is okay for teachers to discuss homosexuality and gender identity in Kindergarten without the permission of the parents?????????????

For the record, I have close family members that are gay and I fully support the rights of LGBTQ. But as a parent, I get to decide how and when to have these discussions.

There is a big difference between Black lives matter and Black Lives Matter. BLM is a political movement with a pretty radical agenda. Many advocate for violence to effectuate change. I support the ideal of Black lives matter but want nothing to do with the political movement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

Well as an ordinary member of society I’m glad the school is stepping up because I don’t trust you to do it.

Well, they are my children, so I have the final say. And if you think I trust people like you to do it, you're out of your mind.

You really don’t have the final say if you put your kid in a public school. You can’t shield their delicate ears from hearing about some political ideologies, just like you can’t shield them from learning about multiplication.

Those type of posters don’t believe in multiplication. They only believe in division and think it’s a ploy to keep America from being great again.

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

Well as an ordinary member of society I’m glad the school is stepping up because I don’t trust you to do it.

Well, they are my children, so I have the final say. And if you think I trust people like you to do it, you're out of your mind.

You really don’t have the final say if you put your kid in a public school. You can’t shield their delicate ears from hearing about some political ideologies, just like you can’t shield them from learning about multiplication.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but - I am very in touch with my kids' teachers. If this topic comes up as some sort of a presentation, my kids are excused and do not attend. I think my kids' teachers actually agree with me and are very responsive to requests to keep me informed.

You sound like you are bending over backward to keep your kids uninformed. But yay for your kids’ teachers being supportive of that.

Also my daughter says she learned about the existence of transgender people from a book at the library. I promise, you cannot shield your kid from things you disagree with.

How do you “disagree” with transgendered people, anyway? They exist. That’s like saying you disagree that George Washington was the first president of the USA (inaugurated on this date, as a matter of fact).

Just so we are clear, I’m the person who said “you cannot shield your kid from things you disagree with,” and I was referring to things generally, like learning about BLM. So the lady who doesn’t want her kids to know that trans people exist and that Black Lives Matter isn’t worth learning about isn’t the one who said anything about disagreeing.

There are several of us, toots. I’m one of the posters opposed to exposure of BLM in the classroom but not the only one

How about this- if we can talk about BLM in the classroom, how about we also introduce kids to the tenants of the Family Research Council. Still interested?

[Anonymous]

This one is interesting!

11. Black Villages
We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prepare for your head to explode: I taught the 13 principles to my kindergarteners. Each class in our school adopted one of the principles to study in depth, from prek to 8th grade.

If you seriously taught kindergarteners about homosexuality and transgender issues then I really hope you get fired. And that's not even considering the political indoctrination which should also be a fireable offense.

I cannot believe what this country has come to that this is happening in our public schools.

WTAF is WRONG with you? Of course you teach children to be accepting of everyone. That includes homosexuals and transgender people. You don't fire teachers for teaching that. The very fact that you would suggest such a thing announces that you are clearly a defective person of bad character who gets absolutely NO say in what children are taught. Sit down. And shut up. Your opinions are not valid and you are not to share them anymore.

New poster. What is WRONG with you? Of course I teach my kids to be accepting of everyone. That doesn't mean I want my kids teacher telling my Kindergartener what it means to be transgender and non-binary. Those our conversations between me and my child. My child is 5 and does not need to know that yet and does not have the maturity to even understand what that means. The last I checked, parents get to decide when and how to teach their kids about these issues. Where do schools get off thinking this is appropriate in Kindergarten? My parents had to sign a permission slip for me to learn about sex ed and puberty in 5th and 6th grade but now it is okay for teachers to discuss homosexuality and gender identity in Kindergarten without the permission of the parents?????????????

For the record, I have close family members that are gay and I fully support the rights of LGBTQ. But as a parent, I get to decide how and when to have these discussions.

There is a big difference between Black lives matter and Black Lives Matter. BLM is a political movement with a pretty radical agenda. Many advocate for violence to effectuate change. I support the ideal of Black lives matter but want nothing to do with the political movement.

No, actually, you don't. Not at my school at least. We do not offer an opt-out process and in multiple years of teaching in a gender-inclusive way, I have never had a parent ask for their child not to be a part of the lessons. Thankfully most people are not quite so close-minded at our school.

And guess what - I have had transgender students in my kindergarten class! So no, I don't think it is crazy and radical to discuss the very existence of transgender people. I think it can actually be life-saving and affirming.

[Anonymous]

Wonder why the notion must be "disrupting"?

The second part that stated "supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable" are great.

But must the process be "disruptive"?

Anonymous wrote:This one is interesting!

11. Black Villages
We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable.

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Anonymous wrote:This is insane. If you object you are marked a racist. BLM is an ideology, plain and simple. MCPS’s mission should not be teaching ideology to my children. I am all for teaching children not to be racist, but not according to the tenets of BLM.

I adamantly object and I am anything but a racist. If I find out this is going on in my kids' classrooms, I will pull them out of class while these sessions are going on. It's really quite simple.

Right....

Let me give you a clue - if you ever find yourself exclaiming that you aren't a racist...you are probably a racist.

Don't worry, you have plenty of company.

This is bullying to the nth degree. You are labeled a racist if you disagree with schools teaching BLM ideology. Many of us don’t believe in viewing everything through a racial lens. The fact that there is so much divisive vitriol on this thread demonstrates the divisiveness of the BLM movement. It is dividing our society and will never bring us together. There are other ways to go about teaching people not to be racist and the BLM ideology and CRT is not the way to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SO what exactly here is so objectionable?
https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

The first five principles and number eight are fine. The rest are subject to interpretation.

11. Black Villages: We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.....

I accept families that may have their own unique family structure but that does not mean I want to actively try to disrupt the traditional nuclear family structure. I happen to think children are best served with two parents that love them (I don't care whether it is man/woman, 2 women, 2 men). Single parenthood sometimes happen and no one should be punished for it, but it is not the ideal situation in which to raise kids. It creates hardship for parents and kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SO what exactly here is so objectionable?
https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

The first five principles and number eight are fine. The rest are subject to interpretation.

11. Black Villages: We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.....

I accept families that may have their own unique family structure but that does not mean I want to actively try to disrupt the traditional nuclear family structure. I happen to think children are best served with two parents that love them (I don't care whether it is man/woman, 2 women, 2 men). Single parenthood sometimes happen and no one should be punished for it, but it is not the ideal situation in which to raise kids. It creates hardship for parents and kids.

The word requirement matters a great deal there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prepare for your head to explode: I taught the 13 principles to my kindergarteners. Each class in our school adopted one of the principles to study in depth, from prek to 8th grade.

If you seriously taught kindergarteners about homosexuality and transgender issues then I really hope you get fired. And that's not even considering the political indoctrination which should also be a fireable offense.

I cannot believe what this country has come to that this is happening in our public schools.

WTAF is WRONG with you? Of course you teach children to be accepting of everyone. That includes homosexuals and transgender people. You don't fire teachers for teaching that. The very fact that you would suggest such a thing announces that you are clearly a defective person of bad character who gets absolutely NO say in what children are taught. Sit down. And shut up. Your opinions are not valid and you are not to share them anymore.

New poster. What is WRONG with you? Of course I teach my kids to be accepting of everyone. That doesn't mean I want my kids teacher telling my Kindergartener what it means to be transgender and non-binary. Those our conversations between me and my child. My child is 5 and does not need to know that yet and does not have the maturity to even understand what that means. The last I checked, parents get to decide when and how to teach their kids about these issues. Where do schools get off thinking this is appropriate in Kindergarten? My parents had to sign a permission slip for me to learn about sex ed and puberty in 5th and 6th grade but now it is okay for teachers to discuss homosexuality and gender identity in Kindergarten without the permission of the parents?????????????

For the record, I have close family members that are gay and I fully support the rights of LGBTQ. But as a parent, I get to decide how and when to have these discussions.

There is a big difference between Black lives matter and Black Lives Matter. BLM is a political movement with a pretty radical agenda. Many advocate for violence to effectuate change. I support the ideal of Black lives matter but want nothing to do with the political movement.

No, actually, you don't. Not at my school at least. We do not offer an opt-out process and in multiple years of teaching in a gender-inclusive way, I have never had a parent ask for their child not to be a part of the lessons. Thankfully most people are not quite so close-minded at our school.

And guess what - I have had transgender students in my kindergarten class! So no, I don't think it is crazy and radical to discuss the very existence of transgender people. I think it can actually be life-saving and affirming.

If my child had a transgender classmate, I would have a discussion about it in a way they could understand. I highly doubt there are many Kindergarten students that openly identify as transgender. You may have had one but surely you realize it is rare to openly identify as such at that age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SO what exactly here is so objectionable?
https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

The first five principles and number eight are fine. The rest are subject to interpretation.

11. Black Villages: We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.....

I accept families that may have their own unique family structure but that does not mean I want to actively try to disrupt the traditional nuclear family structure. I happen to think children are best served with two parents that love them (I don't care whether it is man/woman, 2 women, 2 men). Single parenthood sometimes happen and no one should be punished for it, but it is not the ideal situation in which to raise kids. It creates hardship for parents and kids.

BLM ought to be promoting the notion of the nuclear family instead of shooting it down. They also should also be promoting the idea that Black on Black violence needs to end if they really believe that Black Lives Matter. That is one of the biggest problems in the Black community and it hasn’t been acknowledged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SO what exactly here is so objectionable?
https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

The first five principles and number eight are fine. The rest are subject to interpretation.

11. Black Villages: We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.....

I accept families that may have their own unique family structure but that does not mean I want to actively try to disrupt the traditional nuclear family structure. I happen to think children are best served with two parents that love them (I don't care whether it is man/woman, 2 women, 2 men). Single parenthood sometimes happen and no one should be punished for it, but it is not the ideal situation in which to raise kids. It creates hardship for parents and kids.

The word requirement matters a great deal there.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

I agree. And for those who keep pushing their woke agendas on the rest of us, open your eyes and understand that you are being a hypocrite. You can't pick and choose who you don't judge. Its all or nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prepare for your head to explode: I taught the 13 principles to my kindergarteners. Each class in our school adopted one of the principles to study in depth, from prek to 8th grade.

If you seriously taught kindergarteners about homosexuality and transgender issues then I really hope you get fired. And that's not even considering the political indoctrination which should also be a fireable offense.

I cannot believe what this country has come to that this is happening in our public schools.

WTAF is WRONG with you? Of course you teach children to be accepting of everyone. That includes homosexuals and transgender people. You don't fire teachers for teaching that. The very fact that you would suggest such a thing announces that you are clearly a defective person of bad character who gets absolutely NO say in what children are taught. Sit down. And shut up. Your opinions are not valid and you are not to share them anymore.

New poster. What is WRONG with you? Of course I teach my kids to be accepting of everyone. That doesn't mean I want my kids teacher telling my Kindergartener what it means to be transgender and non-binary. Those our conversations between me and my child. My child is 5 and does not need to know that yet and does not have the maturity to even understand what that means. The last I checked, parents get to decide when and how to teach their kids about these issues. Where do schools get off thinking this is appropriate in Kindergarten? My parents had to sign a permission slip for me to learn about sex ed and puberty in 5th and 6th grade but now it is okay for teachers to discuss homosexuality and gender identity in Kindergarten without the permission of the parents?????????????

For the record, I have close family members that are gay and I fully support the rights of LGBTQ. But as a parent, I get to decide how and when to have these discussions.

There is a big difference between Black lives matter and Black Lives Matter. BLM is a political movement with a pretty radical agenda. Many advocate for violence to effectuate change. I support the ideal of Black lives matter but want nothing to do with the political movement.

Teaching your kids about LGBT people is giving them the tools they need to be accepting. My daughter has a trans parent, and I'm glad I don't have to count on you deciding it's the right time to teach your kids that my husband exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid said they spent one period doing this today in MS.

I am wondering if this is school-specific or MCPS-wide. Just looking to get more info before I approach the principal with my questions/concerns.

So - the kids have been out of school for over a year and they waste teaching time on this garage? Nothing else to do? A chunk of curricula has not been taught - you know math, science and literature. Pathetic.