I definitely said a lot of racist & problematic things in the 90s
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Anonymous
I mean...except for that one poster who was like “You should have known better even as a child because Sesame Street and ignorance cannot co-exist” |
Anonymous
Well, I don’t agree with that poster either. |
Anonymous
You're right, ignorance is a choice--one that you appear to have indulged in. You are an idiot if you think those are examples of present day racism in a program showing antiques from the age of Queen Victoria. Also, it's Chinoiserie. Educate yourself. |
Anonymous
That's nonsense. Cancel culture is very real but liberals seem to be blind to it because they're too busy throwing stones. In my view, the idea of "wokeness" and "cancel culture" is more about internet warfare and liberals feigning piety than anything else. Time would be better spent if these internet worries were pushing education and reform instead of shutting people down. Eschewing people to the periphery of society, as they hope to do, does not win over any converts. It creates more hard line extremism. It just doesn't make sense to devalue reformation and reflection if the ultimate goal is to achieve a more equitable society. We all agree that die-hard alt-right, storm the capitol types should not be given a platform from which to spew hate speech. The problem with "cancel culture" is that it goes too far. Instead of targeting the obvious bad apples in society, it goes after everyone - even for small "offenses" which are often the result of a misunderstanding or lack of education. The problem is that society has no forgiveness and no space for discussion. And I've been doing the work in equality and equity for decades. Don't give me this BS about being called out for shitty behavior. Because I'm doing the work, I'm tired of people taking the easy way out. |
Anonymous
DP. My biggest gripe in this thread is the poster who believes they have never done anything ever like OP, because that's obviously wrong, and then my second biggest gripe are your "other posters" people. Both are hysterical and wrong. |
Anonymous
Think about the words you have used above-- "People who hate being called out on their shitty behavior are crying about cancel culture rather than actually changing. You are so right. So if you really want people to change, maybe there is a different way to get to these people. Yes, people need to recognize that their beliefs, behaviors, values are racist. But the way this is being done now is destructive rather than bridge building. If people really want the change they are now shouting about, they must figure out a way to do this without antagonizing others. Yes. I recognize that racism antagonizes people so way should we tiptoe around the racists? I am not necessarily advocating for tiptoeing, however, I am stressing the need to go about changing people in a way that will make people WANT to change. A lot of racist people are very dense; they don't want to listen; they feel entrenched in their beliefs, etc. Accusations, confrontations, toughness is not the way to get through to people. Look at all the people publicly apologizing... do you think that most are apologizing because they really mean it--- It appears to me that they are apologizing because if they don't, they will lose their livelihoods. So really, the only thing we are accomplishing is getting people to issue fake apologies rather than truly changing the way people think. Talk is cheap. I remember reading about a member of the controversial Westoboro Baptist Church that would demonstrate against gays in the military, among other things. I don't remember the exact details, but someone kindly reached out to one of the members and engaged in dialogue with that member. Eventually the member left the church because she developed a meaningful relationship with the person who reached out to her and came to truly believe that what the Church was doing was wrong. She learned that the people she demonstrated against were real human beings with feelings and value. Kind, honest and compassionate dialogue is what works. There is a double standard, however, if we really want to eradicate racism, we need to use effective means to do that. Accusations, blame, discrimination, name calling... these are not effective methods for winning people over to your side. |
Anonymous
Bascially this. In the 70s, what they now call "ding dong ditch" (ringing your neighbors doorbell and running away) was called n*** knocking. JFC. 
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Anonymous
You’re painting with an awfully broad brush there for someone who has supposedly “done the work”. All of society is too busy throwing stones to care about education? Can you reread what you wrote and honestly say that “cancel culture” however you define it, is what is really wrong with society today? That a few internet people can’t coexist with a real progressive move towards reform? |
Anonymous
| Tangent, but I'm always amazed by the strong correlation between people worried about "cancel culture" and those who took issue with Colin Kaepernick. |
Anonymous
Reading comprehension not your strong suit? It = "wokeness" and "cancel culture" as identified in the top few lines. At no point did I say "all of society". It is a narrow discussion on the overreach of wokeness and cancel culture. Read carefully and stop generalizing. But this does sort of highlight the issue - an overgeneralization that thus leads off topic and creates no actual dialogue or discussion. |
Anonymous
This was the common term for it in my working/middle class Midwestern suburb well into the late 80s/early 90s. |
Anonymous
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I wonder why that was the norm? Where I grew up, we were homogenous generic while population. Most slights and insults were based on socioeconomic circumstances.
Peasant, mechanic, etc. Perhaps it was actually worse back in my home country, not only did we not do such bigotry, it was likely a taboo and hence never even spoken about in any setting. |
Anonymous
| Am I the only one who doesn’t mind watching 80s movies? Yes they are ribald, yes they are insulting, yes they are provocative. I’m glad we’re a more thoughtful society now. But I still enjoy some of these movies despite various sexist or racist tropes, lines of dialogue, stereotypes. |
Anonymous
WTF that is crazy. I guess growing up in the 70s was a different beast than growing up in the 80s/90s. I never heard anyone say the N word. We grew up with Cosby. |
Anonymous
You’re painting with an awfully broad brush there for someone who has supposedly “done the work”. All of society is too busy throwing stones to care about education? Can you reread what you wrote and honestly say that “cancel culture” however you define it, is what is really wrong with society today? That a few internet people can’t coexist with a real progressive move towards reform? Reading comprehension not your strong suit? It = "wokeness" and "cancel culture" as identified in the top few lines. At no point did I say "all of society". It is a narrow discussion on the overreach of wokeness and cancel culture. Read carefully and stop generalizing. But this does sort of highlight the issue - an overgeneralization that thus leads off topic and creates no actual dialogue or discussion. My reading comprehension is fine. Just responding to your bolded quote, above. |