I definitely said a lot of racist & problematic things in the 90s

[Anonymous]

Let’s not forget that one of the first people to use the term cancel culture was a Black woman asking for people to extend some grace to Simone Biles. Conservatives have co-opted the term to include any kind of accountability which is really frustrating.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how did you play eanie meanie miney mo?

As a kid in the 70"s? N word

As a parent in the 2000"s? tiger

Learn more, do better

Bascially this. In the 70s, what they now call "ding dong ditch" (ringing your neighbors doorbell and running away) was called n*** knocking. JFC.

Born in the 60's, grew up in the 70's and 80's.

Never said the n-word as part of eeny meanie miney mo and never heard others say it.

Did say "catch a tiger by the toe."

Never called ding dong ditch what you say above and never heard others call it that.

[Anonymous]

Pretty much was normalized in the 80s-90s. Watch Cobra Kai--that is pretty much how everyone talked back then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how did you play eanie meanie miney mo?

As a kid in the 70"s? N word

As a parent in the 2000"s? tiger

Learn more, do better

Bascially this. In the 70s, what they now call "ding dong ditch" (ringing your neighbors doorbell and running away) was called n*** knocking. JFC.

Born in the 60's, grew up in the 70's and 80's.

Never said the n-word as part of eeny meanie miney mo and never heard others say it.

Did say "catch a tiger by the toe."

Never called ding dong ditch what you say above and never heard others call it that.

I think it’s just regional. I was the PP who said it was the common term where I grew up in the 80s/early 90s. I don’t think I ever said it though... we were raised to know it was an awful word even if use casually and not in an “overtly” racist way against a specific person. But I had friends who definitely said it and, if I had to guess, would not have thought of themselves as racists.

Curiously, the first time I heard a “hard” n-word—legitimate, non-ironic, and definitely intended to be loaded up with its full racist meaning—was when I was a junior associate at a very prestigious law firm here in DC. Two senior lawyers were talking with me in the room and it just flew out of their mouths like it happens all the time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tangent, but I'm always amazed by the strong correlation between people worried about "cancel culture" and those who took issue with Colin Kaepernick.

Agreed

The modern day Republican Party was formed as a direct result of cancel culture. Housing segregation and mass incarceration are a result of cancel culture. The day I see these same folks fighting for that, then maybe I’ll take them seriously.

[Anonymous]

OP, I cringe too when I look back. 80s kid here. I never said or did anything racist but I used the words "retarted" and "gay" flippantly which I never would never do now. I wasn't by any means a gay-hater but I certainly wasn't an ally. I voted in my state to ban gay marriage and thought gays were some sort of weird counter-culture - all from a place of ignorance (FWIW, I grew up in a big city). Now I am a huge ally and supporter and advocate of gay rights.

We used the word "Oriental" in my house but not as a derogatory term. Until the 90s it was just what most people used to describe people from Asia. I certainly wouldn't use that word now to describe people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how did you play eanie meanie miney mo?

catch a tiger by its toe- grew up in potomac, very ethnically/religiosly diverse, umm professionals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how did you play eanie meanie miney mo?

As a kid in the 70"s? N word

As a parent in the 2000"s? tiger

Learn more, do better

Bascially this. In the 70s, what they now call "ding dong ditch" (ringing your neighbors doorbell and running away) was called n*** knocking. JFC.

Born in the 60's, grew up in the 70's and 80's.

Never said the n-word as part of eeny meanie miney mo and never heard others say it.

Did say "catch a tiger by the toe."

Never called ding dong ditch what you say above and never heard others call it that.

I think it’s just regional. I was the PP who said it was the common term where I grew up in the 80s/early 90s. I don’t think I ever said it though... we were raised to know it was an awful word even if use casually and not in an “overtly” racist way against a specific person. But I had friends who definitely said it and, if I had to guess, would not have thought of themselves as racists.

Curiously, the first time I heard a “hard” n-word—legitimate, non-ironic, and definitely intended to be loaded up with its full racist meaning—was when I was a junior associate at a very prestigious law firm here in DC. Two senior lawyers were talking with me in the room and it just flew out of their mouths like it happens all the time

It is regional. I grew up in a poverty-stricken area in southern Indiana, mostly whites of German descent, and we NEVER used the "n-word." In fact, my mother's best friend was married to a Lutheran minister of a black church, and I did bible school in the summer with them as well as hung out at the church with their kids.

Don't get me wrong -- Indiana was overall pretty racist back then, and I'm sure it still is. That doesn't mean everyone had the same experience at a granular level. The cultural racism I was steeped in was in part balanced by regular daily experiences of people of color in my life, and I am glad for it.

[Anonymous]

Interestingly, I heard it called "n** knocking" even though I'm a DC native who grew up in racially diverse neighborhoods.

That said, I only never knew "catch a tiger by his toe" until my European spouse told me he grew up with the other version.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middle class white female here.

I feel like, looking back at growing up in the 90s, I said a lot of cringeworthy, racist and homophobic things in middle school and probably high school (early 2000s). Thank god we didn't have social media before MySpace.
I'm politically liberal/progressive now (though not insanely woke as it is) and my parents were Democrats, but man.... the things that used to be acceptable back then would get us canceled these days.

I recall there was some presentation a group of us gave in history class where I was in the role of a Chinese person and made fake Asian eyes. I also remember a ton of offhand homophobic and trans-phobic comments people made. The word "gay" was an insult. And I remember there was some rumor that a celebrity was trans and people were aghast, and talked about them like they were some kind of zoo animal.

I grew up in a small town, a very Republican town in a blue state. Majority white, a lot of born-again Christians. We had maybe three Black kids in school and one LGBTQ person. Also, the movies we used to watch from the 90s and 80s would never be acceptable now. Not that this is a bad thing - I'm glad we've come a long way with being more inclusive and less bigoted, and we have a LONG way to go.

This all being said, I wonder what the statute of limitations is on canceling someone. I imagine there will be more and more Millennial politicians who will be excoriated for something posted on a defunct MySpace page.

Middle class Latina female but dc native. Born in dc grew up in Arlington and went to diverse schools. Every person under 30 I know wishes they grew up in the 90s because it was a "cool" or best decade. I whole heartedly agree.

It was liberating. No pc shit. Movies were good and funny. Fat jokes were the best. Nobody pretended that fat trashy women like Ashley Graham were classy beautiful supermodels. Kim Kardashian and her clan would be shamed for being "ho's". Social media didn't shame people and people didn't do stupid shit for attention or to make a point or to whine about political correctness. Toddlers and younger boys didn't go to school wearing dresses or makeup. It wasn't acceptable. Gay kids were cool but not in your face like they are today. Jojo siwa gay? Its trendy but doubt she really is. Everything about the 90s was more real and down to earth.

Long live the best decade ever the 90s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is everything that is wrong with liberals. There is zero space for education and/or growth. It doesn't matter in what decade OP said or did anything that may be misconstrued in today's era. The point is that she has reevaluated and learned. I always thought that was the ultimate goal. But no, for most liberals, its to burn everyone at the stake and come out on top in the self-congratulatory, woke Olympics.

OP, you're fine. Education, reformation and reevaluating our former selves should be the goal. The cancel loons are what is wrong with society.

Please do show us one person cancelled for things they said as a middle schooler. Just one example.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/education/2020/06/04/cheerleader-who-used-racial-slur-will-not-attend-university-of-tennessee/3147231001/

She didn't say these things as a middle schooler - it was a recent occurrence. All the examples people have provided so far, high school included, aren't from the 90s, before we "knew better".

Dp, but Mimi was a freshman at the time. Did you read the article? The crazy kid held on to the posts until it could do the most damage. I think I remember it being like 3 years? He waited until she picked a college to make the post viral. It’s a pretty crazy story actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is everything that is wrong with liberals. There is zero space for education and/or growth. It doesn't matter in what decade OP said or did anything that may be misconstrued in today's era. The point is that she has reevaluated and learned. I always thought that was the ultimate goal. But no, for most liberals, its to burn everyone at the stake and come out on top in the self-congratulatory, woke Olympics.

OP, you're fine. Education, reformation and reevaluating our former selves should be the goal. The cancel loons are what is wrong with society.

Please do show us one person cancelled for things they said as a middle schooler. Just one example.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/education/2020/06/04/cheerleader-who-used-racial-slur-will-not-attend-university-of-tennessee/3147231001/

She didn't say these things as a middle schooler - it was a recent occurrence. All the examples people have provided so far, high school included, aren't from the 90s, before we "knew better".

1) The cheerleader was a high school freshman.

2) She was old enough to drive at the time.

3) It was 2016.

4) She was removed from the cheerleading team due to a code of conduct violation, which happens to many college students for underage drinking, fighting, posting compromising pictures of other students, and general bad behavior.

5) She withdrew from the school, her admission was not rescinded.



Dp, but Mimi was a freshman at the time. Did you read the article? The crazy kid held on to the posts until it could do the most damage. I think I remember it being like 3 years? He waited until she picked a college to make the post viral. It’s a pretty crazy story actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle class white female here.

I feel like, looking back at growing up in the 90s, I said a lot of cringeworthy, racist and homophobic things in middle school and probably high school (early 2000s). Thank god we didn't have social media before MySpace.
I'm politically liberal/progressive now (though not insanely woke as it is) and my parents were Democrats, but man.... the things that used to be acceptable back then would get us canceled these days.

I recall there was some presentation a group of us gave in history class where I was in the role of a Chinese person and made fake Asian eyes. I also remember a ton of offhand homophobic and trans-phobic comments people made. The word "gay" was an insult. And I remember there was some rumor that a celebrity was trans and people were aghast, and talked about them like they were some kind of zoo animal.

I grew up in a small town, a very Republican town in a blue state. Majority white, a lot of born-again Christians. We had maybe three Black kids in school and one LGBTQ person. Also, the movies we used to watch from the 90s and 80s would never be acceptable now. Not that this is a bad thing - I'm glad we've come a long way with being more inclusive and less bigoted, and we have a LONG way to go.

This all being said, I wonder what the statute of limitations is on canceling someone. I imagine there will be more and more Millennial politicians who will be excoriated for something posted on a defunct MySpace page.

Middle class Latina female but dc native. Born in dc grew up in Arlington and went to diverse schools. Every person under 30 I know wishes they grew up in the 90s because it was a "cool" or best decade. I whole heartedly agree.

It was liberating. No pc shit. Movies were good and funny. Fat jokes were the best. Nobody pretended that fat trashy women like Ashley Graham were classy beautiful supermodels. Kim Kardashian and her clan would be shamed for being "ho's". Social media didn't shame people and people didn't do stupid shit for attention or to make a point or to whine about political correctness. Toddlers and younger boys didn't go to school wearing dresses or makeup. It wasn't acceptable. Gay kids were cool but not in your face like they are today. Jojo siwa gay? Its trendy but doubt she really is. Everything about the 90s was more real and down to earth.

Long live the best decade ever the 90s.

Regardless of how one feels about PC culture or lackthereof in the 90s, the HUGE difference was the lack of social media. People became more hyper-aware and hyper-sensitive because of the internet, and online bullying amplified every insecurity anyone could possibly have. In the 90s, girls may have been insecure about what the popular kids would say at recess or how models looked in magazines. Now, they have to worry about what everyone sees on Instagram, photoshopped and filtered photos that make it look like everyone they know is a supermodel while they are the ugly troll. We are all way too online, hypercritical and judgmental and know too much about each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is everything that is wrong with liberals. There is zero space for education and/or growth. It doesn't matter in what decade OP said or did anything that may be misconstrued in today's era. The point is that she has reevaluated and learned. I always thought that was the ultimate goal. But no, for most liberals, its to burn everyone at the stake and come out on top in the self-congratulatory, woke Olympics.

OP, you're fine. Education, reformation and reevaluating our former selves should be the goal. The cancel loons are what is wrong with society.

Please do show us one person cancelled for things they said as a middle schooler. Just one example.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/education/2020/06/04/cheerleader-who-used-racial-slur-will-not-attend-university-of-tennessee/3147231001/

She didn't say these things as a middle schooler - it was a recent occurrence. All the examples people have provided so far, high school included, aren't from the 90s, before we "knew better".

1) The cheerleader was a high school freshman.

2) She was old enough to drive at the time.

3) It was 2016.

4) She was removed from the cheerleading team due to a code of conduct violation, which happens to many college students for underage drinking, fighting, posting compromising pictures of other students, and general bad behavior.

5) She withdrew from the school, her admission was not rescinded.



New post, but according to everything I read, she was given the ultimatum to “voluntarily” unenroll or have her admission rescinded. It’s a pretty interesting case. A jealous classmate held onto it for blackmail and it worked well.

Dp, but Mimi was a freshman at the time. Did you read the article? The crazy kid held on to the posts until it could do the most damage. I think I remember it being like 3 years? He waited until she picked a college to make the post viral. It’s a pretty crazy story actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about Joe Biden and how he treated Anita Hill in 1992.

Oh go away. Your cult leader lost.