Is there any way that Trump could retain power? And, also, why are people still backing him?

Anonymous
How to Republican winners of down ballot seats (e.g., house, senate, state senate) at once claim that ballots that were for Biden are fraudulent but their respective votes are legit?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale for people like Barr, McConnell, and Giuliani? And - do they truly believe he could retain power??? Why else would they support him now, unless they thought he was powerful, even still???


There is no legal rationale.

There are plenty of illegal, 'banana republic' ways to do it.

GOP doesn't care about law and clearly haven't for some time. So...who's going to stop them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How to Republican winners of down ballot seats (e.g., house, senate, state senate) at once claim that ballots that were for Biden are fraudulent but their respective votes are legit?



because their followers are rubes
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I don’t trust anyone afraid to congratulate president-elect Biden publicly.
Anonymous
Republicans are trying to keep Trumpism alive while getting rid of Trump.
Anonymous
Isn’t it possible these investigations will turn up illegal votes that were Trump? His base could have attempted fraud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Omg stop with the faithless electors thing. It’s not happening. Never has. People floated it when trump one too but they elected him. In Pennsylvania the person who wins the popular vote gets the electors. In other states, they’re not going to flip. You’re all ridiculous.


Actually, wrong in all respects, Ivan. In 40% of the states, there is NO legal penalty at all for an elector flipping his or her vote to other than the pledged party or candidate. There have been close to 200 faithless-elector votes. This is one of the live, current Republican strategies that you are pursuing right now. Quit lying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it possible these investigations will turn up illegal votes that were Trump? His base could have attempted fraud.


How do you ID illegal votes at this point?

I read that trying to isolate votes at this point is like trying to find the raindrops that fell into a swimming pool.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I say let them examine every software system, ballot, every registered voter roll. Trying to avoid that makes us look guilty. If they find fraud so be it. If not then great.


BS. Meanwhile Biden can't get started on the transition and it leaves us in this sick state of limbo for gd knows how long - and lord knows we need him to be ready to do his job on day one.

Sure. Recount in situations where it's a legally available option. But since we have zero evidence that any recounts would change the results, we need to get started on getting Trump out and getting Biden in. The longer this goes on, the worse it's going to be for us.



I don’t think the count is in question. The issue appears to be organized vote fraud. Much like Russian collusion but easier to prove one way or the other.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m concerned that Trump is fomenting distrust and even more rage from his base - if that were even possible. I scared he’s trying to steal this election.

The GOP is jumping on the “voter fraud” bandwagon and sowing more seeds of doubt and anger after seemingly being at the very least quiet about the results (would have been too much for them to acknowledge they lost).

Now Barr is telling DoJ to investigate the elections to add further fuel to the GOP fire despite ZERO evidence of fraud. It’s intended to intimidate Democrats and further add to distrust.

Now rumors Trump is firing officials he doesn’t think are loyal enough, replacing them with yes men / women.

Now appointees are refusing to cooperate with the Biden administration to even start the wheels of transition.

This isn’t looking good, folks. Trying not to be negative but I’m worried. If one thing the last four years have taught me is that sanity and decency will not prevail in GOP circles.

Tell me I’m wrong.


You're entirely right.

First, the Government under the present control of Trump and his henchmen will never cooperate in a transition to a Democrat, period. To be clear: the Democratic appointees and the Democratic White House staff will never even get hard pass ID cards.

Second, the Trump administration is ordering Republican subordinates in flipped states to move the selection of their electors, who are Democratic electors as a result of the general election, to state legislatures that will select Republican electors. This is in progress now in Pennsylvania and Georgia.

Third, as soon as a court challenge is ripe for appellate review, Barr (in his capacity as GC to the Trump campaign and personal lawyer for Trump) will file an emergency petition to the Supreme Republican Court, which will come up with some order to the effect that Trump remains President.

The system is completely rigged. Trump is absolutely 100% certain to retain power, period, no matter what.


Can you provide more information about the electors? I haven’t seen any articles on this.


Google. https://www.fox6now.com/news/2020-election-could-the-electoral-college-switch-for-trump


Sometimes I wish the stupid ams fearful speculations would stop because it gives these dumb ass clowns ideas. Just trust that we have the right people doing the right thing, and all of those guys and gals aren’t on tv blabbing about it.

Trump is 100% no longer President as of 1200 20Jan21. Period. No one is going to let him steal or throw a coup because 25% of the population believe his wack ass lies and consoiraxies. Don’t threaten and gather lists. We don’t need to. There are professionals that have been working in government a long time. Adding information allows opportunity for disinformation, so just ignore him and stop talking about it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I say let them examine every software system, ballot, every registered voter roll. Trying to avoid that makes us look guilty. If they find fraud so be it. If not then great.


BS. Meanwhile Biden can't get started on the transition and it leaves us in this sick state of limbo for gd knows how long - and lord knows we need him to be ready to do his job on day one.

Sure. Recount in situations where it's a legally available option. But since we have zero evidence that any recounts would change the results, we need to get started on getting Trump out and getting Biden in. The longer this goes on, the worse it's going to be for us.



I don’t think the count is in question. The issue appears to be organized vote fraud. Much like Russian collusion but easier to prove one way or the other.


There is zero evidence of organized vote fraud. And these baseless allegations absolutely should not hold up the peaceful transition of power.

Trump is a loser who can't admit he lost. This is a pathetic attempt to save face and maybe steal an election, and certainly keep his supporters from accepting that they lost.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Re: 9:34 video it scares me our leaders cannot publicly say what they believe. That is not democracy.


We don't have a democracy. We kind of have a republic. And we don't have a nation. We have a country guided by a document that is 233 years old, written by rich men who didn't see women, Black people, or individuals without property as people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I say let them examine every software system, ballot, every registered voter roll. Trying to avoid that makes us look guilty. If they find fraud so be it. If not then great.


BS. Meanwhile Biden can't get started on the transition and it leaves us in this sick state of limbo for gd knows how long - and lord knows we need him to be ready to do his job on day one.

Sure. Recount in situations where it's a legally available option. But since we have zero evidence that any recounts would change the results, we need to get started on getting Trump out and getting Biden in. The longer this goes on, the worse it's going to be for us.



I don’t think the count is in question. The issue appears to be organized vote fraud. Much like Russian collusion but easier to prove one way or the other.


Trump
Is
The
Organized
Vote
Fraud

There
Is
No
Supreme
Republican
Court
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re: 9:34 video it scares me our leaders cannot publicly say what they believe. That is not democracy.


We don't have a democracy. We kind of have a republic. And we don't have a nation. We have a country guided by a document that is 233 years old, written by rich men who didn't see women, Black people, or individuals without property as people.


We have both. George Washington challenged us to keep it.
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