Mixed-collar dating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the blue collar jobs make a lot more than you think.

Dad is a CPA. He was surprised that tug boat captains
on the rivers that feed the Chesapeake supervising tugboats that push grain barges and gravel barges make around $200,000. The tugboat captains have good hours too.

+1000

The older I get the more I realize this. White collar careers are great too but our generation has really been steered in the wrong direction. There are many many blue collar jobs that pay incredibly well and many many white collar jobs that do not. Also many blue collars jobs translate well into a small business for those who are smart and ambitious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My friend and her (HS educated only) started a PORTA POTTY business. They make at least double what my DH and I make (doctorate and MBA- and both in high paying fields)

People have no clue.

It doesn't matter how much money they make, they still have a disgusting job and no education, which was the whole point.

Those people will never, ever fit in with other UMC/UC people. They have absolutely nothing in common with anyone else in that income strata beyond HHI. On the other hand, a couple with advanced degrees, even if they are literally unemployed, would still have many, many things in common with well-off people, because they shared so many of the same life experiences (private schools, top tier colleges, postgrad experiences, etc.). Whereas the other couple literally shovels sh!t all day. They'll never be respected, they'll never be seen as a leer, as an equal, because they aren't. They're just poorly educated trash with money.

[Anonymous]

I don't think that OP is talking about dating a 1/1000 person who owns a business that employs blue collar workers and makes over $100K. Blue collar means blue collar work, with a normal blue collar income.

All this talk about how some blue collar workers earn as much if not more than white collar professionals and therefore are "worthy" is pretty messed up, IMO. It's as though their high income makes up for the failure in the job prestige Olympics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend and her (HS educated only) started a PORTA POTTY business. They make at least double what my DH and I make (doctorate and MBA- and both in high paying fields)

People have no clue.

It doesn't matter how much money they make, they still have a disgusting job and no education, which was the whole point.

Those people will never, ever fit in with other UMC/UC people. They have absolutely nothing in common with anyone else in that income strata beyond HHI. On the other hand, a couple with advanced degrees, even if they are literally unemployed, would still have many, many things in common with well-off people, because they shared so many of the same life experiences (private schools, top tier colleges, postgrad experiences, etc.). Whereas the other couple literally shovels sh!t all day. They'll never be respected, they'll never be seen as a leer, as an equal, because they aren't. They're just poorly educated trash with money.

NP. And yet we all see you as a leer.

[Anonymous]

It worked out eventually for Lady Chatterley and Jane Eyre. But not for Becky Sharp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend and her (HS educated only) started a PORTA POTTY business. They make at least double what my DH and I make (doctorate and MBA- and both in high paying fields)

People have no clue.

It doesn't matter how much money they make, they still have a disgusting job and no education, which was the whole point.

Those people will never, ever fit in with other UMC/UC people. They have absolutely nothing in common with anyone else in that income strata beyond HHI. On the other hand, a couple with advanced degrees, even if they are literally unemployed, would still have many, many things in common with well-off people, because they shared so many of the same life experiences (private schools, top tier colleges, postgrad experiences, etc.). Whereas the other couple literally shovels sh!t all day. They'll never be respected, they'll never be seen as a leer, as an equal, because they aren't. They're just poorly educated trash with money.

Wow. This is such an incredibly mean spirited post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend and her (HS educated only) started a PORTA POTTY business. They make at least double what my DH and I make (doctorate and MBA- and both in high paying fields)

People have no clue.

It doesn't matter how much money they make, they still have a disgusting job and no education, which was the whole point.

Those people will never, ever fit in with other UMC/UC people. They have absolutely nothing in common with anyone else in that income strata beyond HHI. On the other hand, a couple with advanced degrees, even if they are literally unemployed, would still have many, many things in common with well-off people, because they shared so many of the same life experiences (private schools, top tier colleges, postgrad experiences, etc.). Whereas the other couple literally shovels sh!t all day. They'll never be respected, they'll never be seen as a leer, as an equal, because they aren't. They're just poorly educated trash with money.

Omg this is so funny. They will work the hours that suit them plus have the pride of running their own successful business. Did it ever occur to you that these people may not want to fit into the world you so highly crave. Do you think they want to be respected by white collar workers or UC people?

Do you not think they might be content with their nice house, nice car, nice holidays, family and close friends. They may not want to smooze with people that have gone to top tier colleges, you do realise that some people find those people incredibly uptight and boring, trying to fit into their one size fits all cookie cutter life.

You may think they are poorly educated but to run a successful business they have something going on, it may not be what you deem to be respectful but I bet they laugh more than you do, I bet their dinner parties hold real warmth in the room and I bet they can tell a great story or two.

Trash is apparent in every class of people, so it seems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think that OP is talking about dating a 1/1000 person who owns a business that employs blue collar workers and makes over $100K. Blue collar means blue collar work, with a normal blue collar income.

All this talk about how some blue collar workers earn as much if not more than white collar professionals and therefore are "worthy" is pretty messed up, IMO. It's as though their high income makes up for the failure in the job prestige Olympics.

No it means that stupid people look down on blue collar workers but some people end up with a pretty nice lifestyle from that blue collar job. I have to laugh when people turn their noses up at tradespeople, if only people knew how much money they are making. Not all but a lot of them.

Why is it that only the white collar jobs are worthy of respect for the money they make. Or is it that some people get a little jealous when they are putting in 14 hour days and some tradie doing electrical work finishing at 5pm is making just as much money. One is tied to the corporate chain the other not so much, they tend to make their own work and hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the blue collar jobs make a lot more than you think.

Dad is a CPA. He was surprised that tug boat captains
on the rivers that feed the Chesapeake supervising tugboats that push grain barges and gravel barges make around $200,000. The tugboat captains have good hours too.

+1000

The older I get the more I realize this. White collar careers are great too but our generation has really been steered in the wrong direction. There are many many blue collar jobs that pay incredibly well and many many white collar jobs that do not. Also many blue collars jobs translate well into a small business for those who are smart and ambitious.

I so agree with this. Young people are being told that a degree is all that matters and then when they finish that degree there is so much competition to try to get a job. Meanwhile there are so many great paying jobs out there.

Anyway if OP is concerned about this, then the guy isn't right for her. She will resent him for being blue collar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend and her (HS educated only) started a PORTA POTTY business. They make at least double what my DH and I make (doctorate and MBA- and both in high paying fields)

People have no clue.

It doesn't matter how much money they make, they still have a disgusting job and no education, which was the whole point.

Those people will never, ever fit in with other UMC/UC people. They have absolutely nothing in common with anyone else in that income strata beyond HHI. On the other hand, a couple with advanced degrees, even if they are literally unemployed, would still have many, many things in common with well-off people, because they shared so many of the same life experiences (private schools, top tier colleges, postgrad experiences, etc.). Whereas the other couple literally shovels sh!t all day. They'll never be respected, they'll never be seen as a leer, as an equal, because they aren't. They're just poorly educated trash with money.

This might sound like a lie but it is absolutely the truth. I am blue-collar and dating a woman literally worth hundreds of millions of dollars. This woman is friends with world leaders and even royalty. We get along fantastically and have been dating for a while over a year. We are both in our 40s and previously married. Her world experience is amazing. By the time she was in college and she had already been in just about every country you can think of and grew up at the highest levels of society. I grew up as an army brat before entering the military and then proceeding to my current profession. I get along with her friends fantastically and she gets along with mine as well. Yes I’m going to marry more dinner parties that I would have never been invited to before but it is not that big of an adjustment to learn how to fit in. It’s actually quite nice, I have learned so much from her but she has also learned much from me. She fits in in my circles as well. One thing I have learned is that most people in genuine high society values the individual and their accomplishments not what they make or what they do for a living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This might sound like a lie but it is absolutely the truth. I am blue-collar and dating a woman literally worth hundreds of millions of dollars. This woman is friends with world leaders and even royalty. We get along fantastically and have been dating for a while over a year. We are both in our 40s and previously married. Her world experience is amazing. By the time she was in college and she had already been in just about every country you can think of and grew up at the highest levels of society. I grew up as an army brat before entering the military and then proceeding to my current profession. I get along with her friends fantastically and she gets along with mine as well. Yes I’m going to marry more dinner parties that I would have never been invited to before but it is not that big of an adjustment to learn how to fit in. It’s actually quite nice, I have learned so much from her but she has also learned much from me. She fits in in my circles as well. One thing I have learned is that most people in genuine high society values the individual and their accomplishments not what they make or what they do for a living.

So what you’re saying, I think, is that there are nice polite people in both walks of life that don’t judge others by the color of their collar.
I like that. It’s so different from what we see in too many of these replies to this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend and her (HS educated only) started a PORTA POTTY business. They make at least double what my DH and I make (doctorate and MBA- and both in high paying fields)

People have no clue.

It doesn't matter how much money they make, they still have a disgusting job and no education, which was the whole point.

Those people will never, ever fit in with other UMC/UC people. They have absolutely nothing in common with anyone else in that income strata beyond HHI. On the other hand, a couple with advanced degrees, even if they are literally unemployed, would still have many, many things in common with well-off people, because they shared so many of the same life experiences (private schools, top tier colleges, postgrad experiences, etc.). Whereas the other couple literally shovels sh!t all day. They'll never be respected, they'll never be seen as a leer, as an equal, because they aren't. They're just poorly educated trash with money.

So sayeth the trash with money.

[Anonymous]

That snobbish, insufferable person's writing style sounds suspiciously close to that of Burger King Lady. Hmmm...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the blue collar jobs make a lot more than you think.

Dad is a CPA. He was surprised that tug boat captains
on the rivers that feed the Chesapeake supervising tugboats that push grain barges and gravel barges make around $200,000. The tugboat captains have good hours too.

+1000

The older I get the more I realize this. White collar careers are great too but our generation has really been steered in the wrong direction. There are many many blue collar jobs that pay incredibly well and many many white collar jobs that do not. Also many blue collars jobs translate well into a small business for those who are smart and ambitious.

Sigh. I have an HLS degree and make a little under $200k (gov't). My job is fine, but if I could drive a tugboat instead of sit at a desk I would. Also lower COL where that tugboat is I am guessing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not.
Don’t even consider lowering your white collar self to his level.

And what level is that?

The level of gross blue collar loser.

Seriously, how could you even take him anywhere? What are you going to say when people ask "so what do you do, ______ ?" And he says "I"m a plumber. I fix toilets" ... what are you going to do then?

The horror! A man who gets dirt under his fingernails: what would the servants think?

They would probably wonder why I was lowering myself to someone in their station.

As long as everyone remembers his station, the sun will never set on the British Empire.