Man dies after unprovoked attack by teens at Frederick fair

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Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Pregnancy hormones can be severe and can royally F with a woman's head.

What major life event do men experience, that's comparable? That they... just exist?

OK, if hormones are the excuse, men have testosterone, and not just a few times per lifetime as with pregnancy, but all the time after puberty. And believe me, testosterone really Fs with your head (see: teenagers, male, frequent misbehavior of). You could even call this crime a case in point!

Translation: Yes, just by existing and not going through a major hormonal health event, males are violent. Yeah... you're not really helping making the terrible point you're trying to make.

Women who kill their children do not all have postpartum psychosis. Plenty of them are just bad. Bad people. Whatever their hormones or chromosomes.

How many women just kill and randomly attack people without postpartum psychosis, compared to the men who just kill (and assault, and molest, and rape, etc) people because they're bad people... what's that ratio? How do those numbers stack up?

Men and women, we're all human. The problem isn't men, it's us.

These boys were raised by mothers, there was a girl behind the camera involved in this incident. This wasn't testosterone, it was people.

OMG so it's the girls/womens fault that men do this sort of thing??? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

That awful girl was egging those boys on. So, yep, she is also responsible for this!

She sounds like a horrible human being who should be charged with something, and who never deserves another happy day in her life. But- she didn't murder the guy. The teenage boy did. In the eyes of the law, the two crimes are not the same.

O.k.....that doesn't mean that she's innocent. She should be held accountable and charged accordingly.

Of course. She is awful. But- let's not forget who the actual murderer here is. The teenage MALES. As usual. You can try, but you can't ACTUALLY pin all of the blame on women for everything.

If she was with the attacker, she was an accomplice. You can try, but you can't let her off just because she didn't throw the punch.

Calling her an accomplice doesn't let the guy off.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Pregnancy hormones can be severe and can royally F with a woman's head.

What major life event do men experience, that's comparable? That they... just exist?

OK, if hormones are the excuse, men have testosterone, and not just a few times per lifetime as with pregnancy, but all the time after puberty. And believe me, testosterone really Fs with your head (see: teenagers, male, frequent misbehavior of). You could even call this crime a case in point!

Translation: Yes, just by existing and not going through a major hormonal health event, males are violent. Yeah... you're not really helping making the terrible point you're trying to make.

Women who kill their children do not all have postpartum psychosis. Plenty of them are just bad. Bad people. Whatever their hormones or chromosomes.

How many women just kill and randomly attack people without postpartum psychosis, compared to the men who just kill (and assault, and molest, and rape, etc) people because they're bad people... what's that ratio? How do those numbers stack up?

Men and women, we're all human. The problem isn't men, it's us.

These boys were raised by mothers, there was a girl behind the camera involved in this incident. This wasn't testosterone, it was people.

OMG so it's the girls/womens fault that men do this sort of thing??? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

That awful girl was egging those boys on. So, yep, she is also responsible for this!

She sounds like a horrible human being who should be charged with something, and who never deserves another happy day in her life. But- she didn't murder the guy. The teenage boy did. In the eyes of the law, the two crimes are not the same.

O.k.....that doesn't mean that she's innocent. She should be held accountable and charged accordingly.

Of course. She is awful. But- let's not forget who the actual murderer here is. The teenage MALES. As usual. You can try, but you can't ACTUALLY pin all of the blame on women for everything.

She is just as mentally warped as those boys are. I'm sorry you can't see that.

And I'm sorry you can't see that 1) watching a murder taking place and laughing, and 2) actually being the murderer, are different crimes in the eyes of the law.

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Anonymous wrote:In a few short seconds, the video shows some people recording, some watching, and some fanning the flames. At the peak of this sparked hysteria, a man is punched and spat in the face; and very soon his life is over. At a county fair.

In times like these, I think of something Mr. Rogers once shared during one of his episodes many years ago. You've probably read it before. He said when he was a boy and would see scary things in the news, his mother would say to him, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping." Wise words, indeed. I have my own kids and I use this to help explain tragedies to them - which unfortunately, are all too often.

Naturally, we feel for this man, on a human level. We also feel anger toward the perpetrators. Sometimes that anger may make us lash out and act or say or post things we know are hurtful to others. Further magnifying the pain from the one awful act.

Maybe it's just me getting older; or maybe it's the hermitical life-style I've happily chosen, but I find myself worrying a lot nowadays about the human condition. As a middle aged black man, and like many of you, I've seen some dark days in our country - from a county fair to the White House. I find all of it disturbing. And one of the saddest things is, I don't see the helpers.

Admirable words but you damn sure ain't gonna see any helpers in this thread brotha.
These folks are riled up and ready to lock up every black teen in the area just on general principle.

Actually, I just want to lock up the two specific black teens who murdered this man in cold blood. But carry on.

Exactly. And the ones who egged them on should at the very minimum get supervised probation. They are on a truly bad and scary path.

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The video is on Reddit. He seemed surrounded and was totally sucker punched and then the kid spit on him. There is no indication of what preceded the fight.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Pregnancy hormones can be severe and can royally F with a woman's head.

What major life event do men experience, that's comparable? That they... just exist?

OK, if hormones are the excuse, men have testosterone, and not just a few times per lifetime as with pregnancy, but all the time after puberty. And believe me, testosterone really Fs with your head (see: teenagers, male, frequent misbehavior of). You could even call this crime a case in point!

Translation: Yes, just by existing and not going through a major hormonal health event, males are violent. Yeah... you're not really helping making the terrible point you're trying to make.

Women who kill their children do not all have postpartum psychosis. Plenty of them are just bad. Bad people. Whatever their hormones or chromosomes.

How many women just kill and randomly attack people without postpartum psychosis, compared to the men who just kill (and assault, and molest, and rape, etc) people because they're bad people... what's that ratio? How do those numbers stack up?

Men and women, we're all human. The problem isn't men, it's us.

These boys were raised by mothers, there was a girl behind the camera involved in this incident. This wasn't testosterone, it was people.

OMG so it's the girls/womens fault that men do this sort of thing??? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

That awful girl was egging those boys on. So, yep, she is also responsible for this!

She sounds like a horrible human being who should be charged with something, and who never deserves another happy day in her life. But- she didn't murder the guy. The teenage boy did. In the eyes of the law, the two crimes are not the same.

O.k.....that doesn't mean that she's innocent. She should be held accountable and charged accordingly.

Of course. She is awful. But- let's not forget who the actual murderer here is. The teenage MALES. As usual. You can try, but you can't ACTUALLY pin all of the blame on women for everything.

If she was with the attacker, she was an accomplice. You can try, but you can't let her off just because she didn't throw the punch.

Calling her an accomplice doesn't let the guy off.

Oh i'm not letting her off, she deserves to be charged with an appropriate crime and she sounds like a terrible human being. I'm arguing with the person who said women are to blame for the crimes of men because the men were raised by mothers, in part. He used that girl as an example of how women are partially to blame for the crimes of violent men. I'm saying no... that woman/girl is a terrible person, and a criminal, but she is not responsible for killing that person, the man/boy who KILLED HIM IS.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Pregnancy hormones can be severe and can royally F with a woman's head.

What major life event do men experience, that's comparable? That they... just exist?

OK, if hormones are the excuse, men have testosterone, and not just a few times per lifetime as with pregnancy, but all the time after puberty. And believe me, testosterone really Fs with your head (see: teenagers, male, frequent misbehavior of). You could even call this crime a case in point!

Translation: Yes, just by existing and not going through a major hormonal health event, males are violent. Yeah... you're not really helping making the terrible point you're trying to make.

Women who kill their children do not all have postpartum psychosis. Plenty of them are just bad. Bad people. Whatever their hormones or chromosomes.

How many women just kill and randomly attack people without postpartum psychosis, compared to the men who just kill (and assault, and molest, and rape, etc) people because they're bad people... what's that ratio? How do those numbers stack up?

Men and women, we're all human. The problem isn't men, it's us.

These boys were raised by mothers, there was a girl behind the camera involved in this incident. This wasn't testosterone, it was people.

OMG so it's the girls/womens fault that men do this sort of thing??? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

That awful girl was egging those boys on. So, yep, she is also responsible for this!

She sounds like a horrible human being who should be charged with something, and who never deserves another happy day in her life. But- she didn't murder the guy. The teenage boy did. In the eyes of the law, the two crimes are not the same.

O.k.....that doesn't mean that she's innocent. She should be held accountable and charged accordingly.

Of course. She is awful. But- let's not forget who the actual murderer here is. The teenage MALES. As usual. You can try, but you can't ACTUALLY pin all of the blame on women for everything.

She is just as mentally warped as those boys are. I'm sorry you can't see that.

And I'm sorry you can't see that 1) watching a murder taking place and laughing, and 2) actually being the murderer, are different crimes in the eyes of the law.

They are both psychologically twisted. That is the point. The young woman who videotaped that murder and laughed about it is not right in the head.

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Anonymous wrote:The video is on Reddit. He seemed surrounded and was totally sucker punched and then the kid spit on him. There is no indication of what preceded the fight.

He was basically ambushed. The one kid distracted him while the other kid came out of nowhere and punched him HARD. The girl was taping from beginning to end and the friends seemed to be anticipating the attack.

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Anonymous wrote:^And she will probably one day have kids of her own one day - which is absolutely scary!

Probably next year.

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Anonymous wrote:The video is on Reddit. He seemed surrounded and was totally sucker punched and then the kid spit on him. There is no indication of what preceded the fight.

I can't find it

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Anonymous wrote:The video is on Reddit. He seemed surrounded and was totally sucker punched and then the kid spit on him. There is no indication of what preceded the fight.

I can't find it

different poster here.

I just googled "Reddit Frederick fair" and it was the first result that came up.

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Damnit it's blocked at my work

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Anonymous wrote:In a few short seconds, the video shows some people recording, some watching, and some fanning the flames. At the peak of this sparked hysteria, a man is punched and spat in the face; and very soon his life is over. At a county fair.

In times like these, I think of something Mr. Rogers once shared during one of his episodes many years ago. You've probably read it before. He said when he was a boy and would see scary things in the news, his mother would say to him, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping." Wise words, indeed. I have my own kids and I use this to help explain tragedies to them - which unfortunately, are all too often.

Naturally, we feel for this man, on a human level. We also feel anger toward the perpetrators. Sometimes that anger may make us lash out and act or say or post things we know are hurtful to others. Further magnifying the pain from the one awful act.

Maybe it's just me getting older; or maybe it's the hermitical life-style I've happily chosen, but I find myself worrying a lot nowadays about the human condition. As a middle aged black man, and like many of you, I've seen some dark days in our country - from a county fair to the White House. I find all of it disturbing. And one of the saddest things is, I don't see the helpers.

Admirable words but you damn sure ain't gonna see any helpers in this thread brotha.
These folks are riled up and ready to lock up every black teen in the area just on general principle.

Just stop it. I agree that people use incidents like this to advance racist agendas, but by downplaying the violence (which you consistently do on DCUM, I believe) you're not doing anyone any favors. Least of all the kids who have now ruined their own lives.

F you mean I'm not doing the kids any favors? You saying the kids read DCUM? I thought they were all illiterate degenerates who spend most of their time playing "Call of Duty" and watching UFC fights. Look here son, it's an open forum and an open thread if I wanna offer my 2 cents I'm gonna do it and if you got a problem the report button is at the bottom to your right.

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To start your post, “with all due respect”.

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Anonymous wrote:To me the question is -- is death an expected result of 'knocking someone out'?

Umm, yeah. It happens to professional and amateur boxer all the time.

First of all, very few people are knocked out by a single punch. And death is rarely the result, even during a boxing match that lasts 30 minutes.

Exactly. That's a pretty clear indication that this man must've had some underlying medical condition that contributed to his falling down after he was allegedly punched. And I'd say that they medical condition is at least as contributory, if not even more so, to him falling down as the punch might've been, if it's confirmed that the blow was even landed with any effect. And even if it was, people -normal healthy people- don't fall down unconscious after being hit ONE time. That's Hollywood stuff. Maybe a trained heavyweight boxer could knock a normal person out with one punch. Does that child look like a trained heavyweight boxer to you?

Because the simple reality is, he probably had a underlying medical condition, and he likely would've fallen down at some point anyway from this condition, and perhaps hit his head then too. And he still would've died from that.

But then we wouldn't have two black children to call murderers, and that's what this is really all about, right trumpers?

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Anonymous wrote:To me the question is -- is death an expected result of 'knocking someone out'?

Umm, yeah. It happens to professional and amateur boxer all the time.

First of all, very few people are knocked out by a single punch. And death is rarely the result, even during a boxing match that lasts 30 minutes.

Exactly. That's a pretty clear indication that this man must've had some underlying medical condition that contributed to his falling down after he was allegedly punched. And I'd say that they medical condition is at least as contributory, if not even more so, to him falling down as the punch might've been, if it's confirmed that the blow was even landed with any effect. And even if it was, people -normal healthy people- don't fall down unconscious after being hit ONE time. That's Hollywood stuff. Maybe a trained heavyweight boxer could knock a normal person out with one punch. Does that child look like a trained heavyweight boxer to you?

Because the simple reality is, he probably had a underlying medical condition, and he likely would've fallen down at some point anyway from this condition, and perhaps hit his head then too. And he still would've died from that.

But then we wouldn't have two black children to call murderers, and that's what this is really all about, right trumpers?

He was probably participating in the hilarity of it all and it was simply a pratfall gone wrong. Or maybe the kid was just swatting a fly on his head...you know, doing him a favor and the guy was drunk and lost his balance. Or something like that.

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Anonymous wrote:To me the question is -- is death an expected result of 'knocking someone out'?

Umm, yeah. It happens to professional and amateur boxer all the time.

First of all, very few people are knocked out by a single punch. And death is rarely the result, even during a boxing match that lasts 30 minutes.

Exactly. That's a pretty clear indication that this man must've had some underlying medical condition that contributed to his falling down after he was allegedly punched. And I'd say that they medical condition is at least as contributory, if not even more so, to him falling down as the punch might've been, if it's confirmed that the blow was even landed with any effect. And even if it was, people -normal healthy people- don't fall down unconscious after being hit ONE time. That's Hollywood stuff. Maybe a trained heavyweight boxer could knock a normal person out with one punch. Does that child look like a trained heavyweight boxer to you?

Because the simple reality is, he probably had a underlying medical condition, and he likely would've fallen down at some point anyway from this condition, and perhaps hit his head then too. And he still would've died from that.

But then we wouldn't have two black children to call murderers, and that's what this is really all about, right trumpers?

You are wrong, factually and medically.

A single punch can kill a person, a healthy person. It is not common but it isn't rare.

Mr Bew said deaths from one punch tended to happen in one of three ways.

Sometimes, as in Robert's case, the blow itself will cause fatal damage to the brain. Alternatively, it could cause a physiological response where people stop breathing and the brain is starved of oxygen.

But in other cases, a punch will cause a person to lose consciousness and strike their head on a hard surface.

The impact is similar to being hit over the head with a block of concrete, Mr Bew said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393