Halle Baily being the new Little Mermaid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm black. I'm conflicted. I liked Hamilton because of the juxtaposition of historical figures who were clearly white being represented by minorities through the medium of rap, which originated from black culture. I loved that Black Panther was a movie that provided representation in just about every aspect.

What I don't like is this feeling of shoehorning in diversity. The Little Mermaid isn't real, but Ariel is an intellectual property of Disney who is instantly recognized as a white character with red hair. I could understand if The Little Mermaid was a dead property that no one really remembered, but that's not the case. Unless they're going to go the route of The Wiz and make everyone black, I don't see the point. Make something new.

I see your point but Disney (and the other major producers) are so focused on re-makes its silly. There's been three movies with Spiderman in this year alone and 3 different (white/male/cis) actors cast as Spiderman in the last two decades. They all look the same. If they just plan on regurgitating old story lines, why not let them use diverse characters for it?

So you missed the (Oscar-winning) "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse" this past year? With a Spider-Man whose dad is black and whose mom is Latina? I guess you'd say that since it's animated it doesn't count as representation but...it was a huge hit, a great movie, and many kids saw a hero who definitely isn't white. And if you want to dismiss it as a "kid's movie" I wonder if you actually saw it....

Did you also miss that in the two most recent live action versions, Peter Parker goes to possibly the most diverse school ever, is in love with a girl played by Zendaya, has a best friend (actually an important character too) who's not white....I suspect you'll come back to say none of that counts if Spider-man himself is white. But...why wouldn't all that be a good thing? Especially at the same time we have another Spider-Man storyline with a black and Latino Spidey? Isn't all that together going in the right direction?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Racists,

What does Ariel's race have to do with the movie?

Nothing? Then F off.

And so you feel the same way about the ridiculous outcry over Moana costumes being worn by white girls? How about the Aladdin cast not being authentically "Arabic"? It works both ways, doofus.

Colonization did not work both ways. You'll never understand that because you're only thinking of yourself.

For those of us who can think broaden than that, we can be sensitive to history and what it means for today. It's not hard, it's just being kind.

Thank you!!!!!! Power does not work both ways!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Beauty and the Beast was horribly disappointing due to Emma Watson’s terrible voice and dull acting. If this new Ariel can sing and act, she can be blue and I’d say great! I am a minority and am totally cool with a black Ariel, though I’d like her to still have long red hair for sentimental reasons.

JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE
Lots of black people are born with red hair!!!!!!
Stop talking like Ariel being black means she can’t have red hair!

You can't fix stupid PP

[Anonymous]

PSA: Making a new TLM with a black Ariel doesn't erase the old one from history. It will still be there, being a movie that everyone loves and shares with their children. I certainly don't think the new Dumbo is replacing the old Dumbo or that the new Aladdin is replacing the old Aladdin.

I loved the Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston in the 90s but it didn't erase the old Cinderella from the books. The version of Cinderella my kids own and watch is the old one!

Ariel lived in a sea warm enough for sailors to swim around in and is best friends with a Jamaican crab. She should have been black all along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PSA: Making a new TLM with a black Ariel doesn't erase the old one from history. It will still be there, being a movie that everyone loves and shares with their children. I certainly don't think the new Dumbo is replacing the old Dumbo or that the new Aladdin is replacing the old Aladdin.

I loved the Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston in the 90s but it didn't erase the old Cinderella from the books. The version of Cinderella my kids own and watch is the old one!

Ariel lived in a sea warm enough for sailors to swim around in and is best friends with a Jamaican crab. She should have been black all along.

No, there can only ever be the one Ariel, ever ever ever EVER and she is WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITEEEEE

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:And next we will have a black Mulan

News flash: Fa Mu Lan was an actual historical person who really lived. Ariel was not an actual historical figure because mermaids are not real.

How about the *actual, historical figures* from Hamilton being portrayed by POC - which they weren't? Any outrage over that?

There was a point being made with Hamilton it was delivered it was satirical it was ironic it was a play on the fact that historical figures of color are often change to be white people.
Some of y’all fools are’s are so damn dumb it is actually unfreaking believable

Hilarious that YOU are calling people dumb. Edit your text. Then stop with the excuses that it’s ok for casting to go your way but not the reverse. Pp had a good point about Hamilton.
I won’t see this movie anyway because it’s live action and not likely to be very good given that. But frankly the reasons you provide sound like justification to scream I AM RIGHT!

+1.

Those calling others dumb are often the dumbest -- and, incidentally, the most racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PSA: Making a new TLM with a black Ariel doesn't erase the old one from history. It will still be there, being a movie that everyone loves and shares with their children. I certainly don't think the new Dumbo is replacing the old Dumbo or that the new Aladdin is replacing the old Aladdin.

I loved the Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston in the 90s but it didn't erase the old Cinderella from the books. The version of Cinderella my kids own and watch is the old one!

Ariel lived in a sea warm enough for sailors to swim around in and is best friends with a Jamaican crab. She should have been black all along.

No, there can only ever be the one Ariel, ever ever ever EVER and she is WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITEEEEE

If your name ain't Robert Iger (Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The Walt Disney Company) then you can express your outrage and capitalize it again and again til your fingers fall off but that ain't gonna stop this movie from being made and it ain't gonna stop thousands of people from holding the opinion that the new live-action version of Ariel with brown skin as the true one and the best one EVER.
Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PSA: Making a new TLM with a black Ariel doesn't erase the old one from history. It will still be there, being a movie that everyone loves and shares with their children. I certainly don't think the new Dumbo is replacing the old Dumbo or that the new Aladdin is replacing the old Aladdin.

I loved the Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston in the 90s but it didn't erase the old Cinderella from the books. The version of Cinderella my kids own and watch is the old one!

Ariel lived in a sea warm enough for sailors to swim around in and is best friends with a Jamaican crab. She should have been black all along.

No, there can only ever be the one Ariel, ever ever ever EVER and she is WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITEEEEE

If your name ain't Robert Iger (Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The Walt Disney Company) then you can express your outrage and capitalize it again and again til your fingers fall off but that ain't gonna stop this movie from being made and it ain't gonna stop thousands of people from holding the opinion that the new live-action version of Ariel with brown skin as the true one and the best one EVER.
Sorry.

Pretty sure PP is being ironic dude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PSA: Making a new TLM with a black Ariel doesn't erase the old one from history. It will still be there, being a movie that everyone loves and shares with their children. I certainly don't think the new Dumbo is replacing the old Dumbo or that the new Aladdin is replacing the old Aladdin.

I loved the Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston in the 90s but it didn't erase the old Cinderella from the books. The version of Cinderella my kids own and watch is the old one!

Ariel lived in a sea warm enough for sailors to swim around in and is best friends with a Jamaican crab. She should have been black all along.

No, there can only ever be the one Ariel, ever ever ever EVER and she is WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITEEEEE

If your name ain't Robert Iger (Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The Walt Disney Company) then you can express your outrage and capitalize it again and again til your fingers fall off but that ain't gonna stop this movie from being made and it ain't gonna stop thousands of people from holding the opinion that the new live-action version of Ariel with brown skin as the true one and the best one EVER.
Sorry.

Pretty sure PP is being ironic dude.

I know, I caught that.
I was using the sarcastic "outrage" remark to reinforce the futility of clinging to such strong feelings about this issue.

[Anonymous]

Read and understand this thread to see why this is well overdue.

https://m.facebook.com/angelica.sampson.31/posts/123173058933748

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black. I'm conflicted. I liked Hamilton because of the juxtaposition of historical figures who were clearly white being represented by minorities through the medium of rap, which originated from black culture. I loved that Black Panther was a movie that provided representation in just about every aspect.

What I don't like is this feeling of shoehorning in diversity. The Little Mermaid isn't real, but Ariel is an intellectual property of Disney who is instantly recognized as a white character with red hair. I could understand if The Little Mermaid was a dead property that no one really remembered, but that's not the case. Unless they're going to go the route of The Wiz and make everyone black, I don't see the point. Make something new.

I see your point but Disney (and the other major producers) are so focused on re-makes its silly. There's been three movies with Spiderman in this year alone and 3 different (white/male/cis) actors cast as Spiderman in the last two decades. They all look the same. If they just plan on regurgitating old story lines, why not let them use diverse characters for it?

So you missed the (Oscar-winning) "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse" this past year? With a Spider-Man whose dad is black and whose mom is Latina? I guess you'd say that since it's animated it doesn't count as representation but...it was a huge hit, a great movie, and many kids saw a hero who definitely isn't white. And if you want to dismiss it as a "kid's movie" I wonder if you actually saw it....

Did you also miss that in the two most recent live action versions, Peter Parker goes to possibly the most diverse school ever, is in love with a girl played by Zendaya, has a best friend (actually an important character too) who's not white....I suspect you'll come back to say none of that counts if Spider-man himself is white. But...why wouldn't all that be a good thing? Especially at the same time we have another Spider-Man storyline with a black and Latino Spidey? Isn't all that together going in the right direction?

All of that IS a good thing. Just like the black character being the LEAD in a live-action role is a great thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read and understand this thread to see why this is well overdue.

https://m.facebook.com/angelica.sampson.31/posts/123173058933748

Powerful. Black mom of a little girl here. I don't love Disney and have never even seen the first movie, but this one? I'm here for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg, for the past few weeks I thought I was hearing that Halle Berry was the new Little Mermaid. I kept thinking who cares about her race, isn’t she a bit too old!? So glad I opened this thread! I love the new choice.

You are not alone--I had the exact same thought!

[Anonymous]

Someone has to point out the obvious: How many people do you know have seen and enjoyed Frozen? Now how about The Princess and the Frog?

Which princesses are in most demand, Ariel-Elsa-Cinderella-etc? Or Mulan-Tiana-etc. This is really just a matter of demand. And it’s much greater for certain characters than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read and understand this thread to see why this is well overdue.

https://m.facebook.com/angelica.sampson.31/posts/123173058933748

Every single person on this thread questioning and disliking the choice needs to read this.