Please explain the "rules" of dogs/walking/peeing and neighbors' property

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think it's fine to let your dogs do their business on someone's grass, would you allow your dog to do it while the owner was there watching? Let's say the owner of the grass was out in their driveway washing their car, and you didn't know them. Would you still allow your dog to pee on their grass?

Of course

Troll?

If I was outside and your dog pooped on my grass right in front of me, I would want to give you and your dog a good kicking. Seeing as how that would get me arrested I wouldn't do it, but I would be thinking about it and imagining how good that would make me feel to teach you a lesson. I would definitely mention it to you though, and if you allowed your dog to poop on my grass again, you should never count on me to be a good neighbor.

This happened to me near U street a few years ago outside a condo where my dog tinkled in the grassed plant box on the street. A new owner who was getting out a car started swearing at me, threatening to kick me and my dog, threatening to kill my dog, and telling me how she was a new partial owner in the big building so she therefore owned that unfenced green spot. I won't tell you what I did, but later all the grass just died (pet safe promise!). I'd do the same to a bit of your yard in the middle of the night - probably a few months later so it's not linked - so maybe be nicer. Crazy can be matched, and I admit I'm crazy.

I can be crazy too. I could leave something poisonous in my yard that your dog might eat. Better yet, if I knew where you lived I too could do something to your property "months later so it's not linked", two can play at that game! As for your comment "try to be nicer", you just don't get it and you probably never will. Your dog has no right to poop or pee on someone else's property. It's self absorbed people like you that give decent dog owners a bad name.

Then build a fence or put up a sign, easy solution. We don't go in fenced areas or places with signs. We are respectful and always pick up after ourselves, but if we don't know we bother you through a sign or something - we don't know. Please just post a sign, and I'll respect it as will the vast majority of people (there are some bad apples).

As for threatening someone, that is above and beyond, and that is why I would respond, or maybe it would be my cousin visiting from out of town, or a friend who'd I'd given a few bucks to mess with you. I'd also sue you for killing my animal, but after being threatened, I also wouldn't walk my dog by your house anymore which is what you want, but that doesn't mean I won't walk by your house without my dog and mess with your yard, car parked out front, etc.

Your cousin or a friend that you've given a few buck to? You must be some sort of coward.

Smart. I’m from Tristate family, and a cousin or uncle is definitely going to something better and more serious than I would. Family is helpful sometimes and has proven helpful in the past.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think it's fine to let your dogs do their business on someone's grass, would you allow your dog to do it while the owner was there watching? Let's say the owner of the grass was out in their driveway washing their car, and you didn't know them. Would you still allow your dog to pee on their grass?

Of course

Troll?

If I was outside and your dog pooped on my grass right in front of me, I would want to give you and your dog a good kicking. Seeing as how that would get me arrested I wouldn't do it, but I would be thinking about it and imagining how good that would make me feel to teach you a lesson. I would definitely mention it to you though, and if you allowed your dog to poop on my grass again, you should never count on me to be a good neighbor.

This happened to me near U street a few years ago outside a condo where my dog tinkled in the grassed plant box on the street. A new owner who was getting out a car started swearing at me, threatening to kick me and my dog, threatening to kill my dog, and telling me how she was a new partial owner in the big building so she therefore owned that unfenced green spot. I won't tell you what I did, but later all the grass just died (pet safe promise!). I'd do the same to a bit of your yard in the middle of the night - probably a few months later so it's not linked - so maybe be nicer. Crazy can be matched, and I admit I'm crazy.

I can be crazy too. I could leave something poisonous in my yard that your dog might eat. Better yet, if I knew where you lived I too could do something to your property "months later so it's not linked", two can play at that game! As for your comment "try to be nicer", you just don't get it and you probably never will. Your dog has no right to poop or pee on someone else's property. It's self absorbed people like you that give decent dog owners a bad name.

Then build a fence or put up a sign, easy solution. We don't go in fenced areas or places with signs. We are respectful and always pick up after ourselves, but if we don't know we bother you through a sign or something - we don't know. Please just post a sign, and I'll respect it as will the vast majority of people (there are some bad apples).

As for threatening someone, that is above and beyond, and that is why I would respond, or maybe it would be my cousin visiting from out of town, or a friend who'd I'd given a few bucks to mess with you. I'd also sue you for killing my animal, but after being threatened, I also wouldn't walk my dog by your house anymore which is what you want, but that doesn't mean I won't walk by your house without my dog and mess with your yard, car parked out front, etc.

How about this.

STAY OUT OF YARDS THAT DON'T BELONG TO YOU. Simple enough.

[Anonymous]

I'm a dog owner and mom. This is what I do:
1) I don't let the dog lick / jump on kids / people. She loves kids because of our sons and their friends but I don't know if the kids are scared, allergic etc so I keep her leash tight when we pass people.
2) She poops and pees on the grass strip next to the street and not in people's yards. We trained her this way and she doesn't poop on the sidewalk pavement either.
3) I clean all the poop. I sometimes ripoff some of the grass, to make sure there's no poop left, so if someone is parking on the curb and is walking in the grass, (s)he doesn't stop into poop and drags it inside.
4) I take the poop bags home and dispose it in my trash, not in random people's trash can or recycling bins, and I'm not leaving the poop bags in people's yards, at intersections, on the sidewalks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't put this in the "Pets" subsection b/c it's really more of a neighborhood/community question.

I am not a dog owner, so I don't know what the standards are. We have an older man in the neighborhood whom we have always been pleasant with when we see him. I don't know his name, but he frequently walks his dog (seems like it is a younger black lab maybe -- not full grown) on the sidewalks. He tends to let his dog roam on the various owners' property. I don't really have a problem with this b/c dogs want to explore, right? As long as the dog is on a leash, he can sniff around my flowers or grass.

My problem is that he lets his dog pee on our lawn. My handyman saw it and commented on it yesterday. So, when I saw the man and his dog today, I watched, and sure enough, the dog came to the middle of our lawn and peed. I went outside and said "sir, could I ask that you not let your dog pee on our lawn." And he immediately resisted saying, "oh, so I should keep him off of your lawn, but he can pee on everyone else's lawn?" (or something close to that -- suggesting that I was increasing the burden on other lawns by restricting his access to my lawn. And I said that the pee is acidic and can kill the grass, and again he argued with me about asking if he was supposed to remember that JUST MY LAWN was the one his dog couldn't pee on... etc. I said, well, we recently found dog poop on our lawn as well. He said it wasn't his, etc. (maybe it wasn't). Ultimately, he was miffed that I asked for him to keep his dog off our property. (FWIW, there is a little strip of grass b/t the sidewalk and the street and I presume most people let their dogs pee there on all the mailboxes -- b/c the paint at the bottom of all the mailboxes gets stripped off from it.)

Anyway -- what is the usual practice for dog owners in regards to neighbors' lawns?

We've been recently having issues with neighbours and their dogs as well. So happy I found this forum. So when we first moved in, we had no idea that we would come about these issues. It wasn't until our first summer that we realized on the city blvd side that owners were leaving their dogs poop and not picking them up. We have to maintain it so I was so pissed off. There were so many piles. We had no idea who was leaving them. We started to pay more attention and we realized a house down the street from us had signs up so clearly this has been an issue for awhile now (in the neighbourhood). We've caught a few ppl before and have asked them to pick up. There's a few people we suspect so we have been keeping an eye on them. We spoke to city and they told us the best way to catch these owners was to get a camera (which we did). That's when we noticed how many dogs pass by each day.

We were fine with the pee but then as time went on and we realized the lawn was getting burned and plants were dying and even when owners picked up their poop off the lawn our kids still step in them because they don't clean it well and leave leftovers. We decided to speak to neighbours and ask them to direct their pets towards the blvd to do their business. I don't care as long as they pick it up on the blvd side, but I prefer not to have their pets do their business on our property where our kids play. Neighbours just don't care. They continued to let their dogs pee on our plants even after we asked nicely. For the lawn, I've been quietly going out to dilute with water after their dogs pee on it. I put out a sign asking them to be considerate and to respect out property. I over heard one neighbour say "how do you stop a dog from peeing?" Well, yes I get that, and it has crossed my mind many times, but that's why I'm asking you to please direct your pet towards the blvd side (like many other owners have). I don't see why you can't. But she feels like her dog is entitled to pee anywhere. I've seen owners look the other way while their pets are on our lawn doing their business. The owner is pretending to look on the phones. I just find it so disrespectful especially since they know we have asked and have signs up. Some also let their pets pee on the signs too.

For almost a year we have not said anything and were hoping that with signs put up, they would understand, but we realized ppl were just plain disrespectful. They were still letting their pets do their business on our property and pissing on the sign too. I had it and started to speak up. I just didn't care anymore. One of my neighbours across would let their dog out to pee on our lawn and head back home. Right now we have a sign that plainly says no pee or poop on our property. I'm sure it's still going to be ignored so we are thinking of a fence. But why should we be the ones incurring the cost of a fence and all these other deterrents just because these owners are ignoring what we're asking of them? So frustrating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In sum - the rules are:
- Dog owners must always pick up after their dogs
- Homeowners must to post signs, plant some trees/bushes, build a fence, or something notify others that their yard is off-limits
- We will all be respectful of each other

Sorry but you're wrong. Homeowners do not have to put up signs to tell dog owners that they don't want dogs on there property, nor do they have to put up fences! It's their property so just keep off.

I agree. Why should we have to post up signs and build fences. We have posted signs in the beginning and owners just let their dogs piss on them. I don't understand why it's so hard to just be respectful.

At my kids bus stop, so many kids jump on the neighbours lawn and pull on their trees and etc... I don't like it and have asked my kids not to do that because I've always taught them about respect for others. But so many parents just watch their kids do it. I don't understand....do ppl really think these actions are ok?

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Where we live, we find plastic bags of dog poo discarded by curbs, or just left in the street for cars to run over and dirty the road and your shoes if your walking. This is baffling and we want to find this person. Why in heck do they bother to clean up after their dog only to leave it in front of homes? I’d rather they didn’t clean up. Bizarre and rude.

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Anonymous wrote:Where we live, we find plastic bags of dog poo discarded by curbs, or just left in the street for cars to run over and dirty the road and your shoes if your walking. This is baffling and we want to find this person. Why in heck do they bother to clean up after their dog only to leave it in front of homes? I’d rather they didn’t clean up. Bizarre and rude.

Yes, a couple of times we found bags of poop on the sidewalk outside our property. I don't understand either. I honestly never had an issue with dogs and owners until now. It's those few that make most of the dog owners look bad. I know that many owners do respect and follow the etiquette. Occasionally if I see a dog pee on the lawn, I look the other way. Sometimes they just have to go. But when I purposely see you let your dog on the lawn to piss on the plants and other things on my property, I will not be nice about it.

[Anonymous]

‘Curb your dog’ means they can use the strip of city grass between sidewalk and the curb.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Curb your dog’ means they can use the strip of city grass between sidewalk and the curb.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a dog owner and mom. This is what I do:
1) I don't let the dog lick / jump on kids / people. She loves kids because of our sons and their friends but I don't know if the kids are scared, allergic etc so I keep her leash tight when we pass people.
2) She poops and pees on the grass strip next to the street and not in people's yards. We trained her this way and she doesn't poop on the sidewalk pavement either.
3) I clean all the poop. I sometimes ripoff some of the grass, to make sure there's no poop left, so if someone is parking on the curb and is walking in the grass, (s)he doesn't stop into poop and drags it inside.
4) I take the poop bags home and dispose it in my trash, not in random people's trash can or recycling bins, and I'm not leaving the poop bags in people's yards, at intersections, on the sidewalks.

This is what I do too. I have two dogs, but I always have extra poop bags when we go out, because you just don't know.

I always try to get them to urinate on our property when we start the walk. I try to have them poop in a mulched area of a traffic circle on our street, rather than any grassy common area where kids might play. No matter where they poop, whether it is on our property or in a common area, I clean it up right away, as leaving poop is not good for the environment.

The only thing I might do on occasion if we are going for a longer walk and my hands are full of poop bags, is leave them out of sight behind a tree in an unused common area and pick them up on my way back. I'm sure that some may take issue, but I have had a few instances when I was on a longer walk and a used bag fell out of my hand and I didn't realize it until later. When that happened, I wound up driving back to find it, but I would prefer not to do that.

[Anonymous]

we have someone in our neighborhood who routinely bags up dog poop and flings it up and into the planted area---because we live in a steep townhouse neighborhood that area is about 4-5 feet off the ground and there is a little low ledge around the flowers. Lovely.

We also had someone for years who didn't scoop at all and just dog poop all over the sidewalk. I honestly don't understand why these people get dogs if they can't be bothered to pick up after them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a dog owner and mom. This is what I do:
1) I don't let the dog lick / jump on kids / people. She loves kids because of our sons and their friends but I don't know if the kids are scared, allergic etc so I keep her leash tight when we pass people.
2) She poops and pees on the grass strip next to the street and not in people's yards. We trained her this way and she doesn't poop on the sidewalk pavement either.
3) I clean all the poop. I sometimes ripoff some of the grass, to make sure there's no poop left, so if someone is parking on the curb and is walking in the grass, (s)he doesn't stop into poop and drags it inside.
4) I take the poop bags home and dispose it in my trash, not in random people's trash can or recycling bins, and I'm not leaving the poop bags in people's yards, at intersections, on the sidewalks.

This! And my daughter, 14, has been taught to do the same. She curbs the dog, picks up poop, does not let our dog jump on people. Etc

[Anonymous]

Something that nobody has mentioned yet is the age of the dog. I have an elderly labrador that used to be well trained and never pooped where she wasn’t supposed to. Now that she is 12 years old she will spontaneously bot be able to hold her poop and it just comes out wherever. She tries to hold it but can’t. Sorry but I’m not going to stop taking her on walks so she may poop a few times in the grass closest to the road and I immediately bag it. It doesn’t harm anyone at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have two dogs, OP. I would never allow them to pee on someone else’s lawn. It kills the grass. They pee in our back yard. Or on walks, on the strip of grass between the sidewalk and the road. Your neighbor is an inconsiderate dog owner.

Same here. I let them wander into the yards (they are on a 6’ leash) but if they are sniffing like they are about to go I remove ASAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have two dogs, OP. I would never allow them to pee on someone else’s lawn. It kills the grass. They pee in our back yard. Or on walks, on the strip of grass between the sidewalk and the road. Your neighbor is an inconsiderate dog owner.

Same here. I let them wander into the yards (they are on a 6’ leash) but if they are sniffing like they are about to go I remove ASAP.

Oh, so close. No, you don't let your dog into someone else's yard. Period.

Good job on the 6' leash, though, rather than the retractable kind that says "Dog training ended with puppy kindergarten."