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Beauty -- yes -- is she good looking? That's subjective, but that's ALL that matters, at least to spark the interest. Then after that, its if she likes YOU. |
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This is depressing to read, pp. We all get old and won't all be beautiful. So you are saying you want to go back to the days when all women are at home and take care of the children with no independence or career of their own? You don't even want a confident SAHM? |
Don't be stupid. No one indicated anything about not being in the work force. Have a job. Simply don't bring your resume on a date. |
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Oh whatever red pull/blue pull, I pull both colors off quite well in the right hue.
Men not interested in intellect are major losers. Sure, objective attraction matters but attraction is more than Barbie. Any man who states otherwise, is a fool not getting any female attention without the carrot of his wallet. |
This makes total sense to me but I personally feel very differently. I have an incredibly fast paced, high powered job, but all I want when I get home is to turn off my brain and let my partner call the shots / make the decisions instead of me for a change. I’m very submissive in bed, too (somewhat related maybe?). I guess I just have two very different sides, but my guess is that a fair number of “high powered” women feel this way, if you take the time to peel back the layers... |
Wow, aren't you a pleasant person. |
Yes, there are many individual differences and there’s nothing wrong with seeking the dynamic that suits you. I meant the statement only as a matter of stats: educated high income women are more likely to be married, and have lower divorce rates, than poorly educated women do. There’s one or two guys on the thread who want to insist that looks are the end of the story, but people are more complex in reality. |
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Well how do you feel about women who are only attracted to the man’s wallet? Tell us! |
Also losers. Exhibit A: Melanoma and the Orange Fuhrer. |
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Education levels - Not too important
Youth - Yes, I go for younger women Wealth - I'd like her to be able to support herself. Actual wealth is a plus, but not what I look for Social Status - Not all all. If that's important to her, it's a turn off to me. Career - Not important but again, she should be able to support herself and if she's stuck in a job/career she hates, that could impact the relationship. Fertility - nope. Not fertile myself and past the baby making days Independence - This is important. She shouldn't need me or any man Beauty - Beautiful in my eyes, doesn't have to be the popular version of female beauty. Confidence - Yes, confidence is sexy. I'm turned off by women with low self-esteem Athletic/Physically active - Yes. Doesn't have to be a gym rat, but should be able and willing to engage in activities like hiking in the mountains, etc. Beyond that, her sexual libido should be on par with mine and I like women who can easily orgasm from sex. Sorry, but the ones I've been with who have a hard time getting off are a turn off for me. I know how it sounds, but I've paid my dues. She also has to be sexually adventurous with me and open to some kinky activities. |
Like many women in this thread and on DCUM, you are missing the point. Men are interested in intellect... and a lot of the other things like career and education... AFTER she meets the basic standard of attraction. A woman who is a total beast can have a great intellect and it will not matter because he will not be attracted. He will look at her and there will be no lead in his pencil. Any man who states otherwise is lying. Any woman who thinks this is not true is deluded about men. A man who needs a woman to meet a certain level of "attractiveness" regardless of her other qualities is not a "loser". Frankly you sound like a bitter female who has been rejected for being physically unattractive and now blames men for not being attracted to her supposed intellect. |
^^ women who talk like this don't actually have the "intellect" they think should be interesting to men. |
So how do you account for all the plain women (“beasts” in your estimation, I guess) who are partnered? Although anyone who calls women “females” is probably uninterested in discussion. |