What attracts men to women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here, and furthermore, about careers.

Men above have indicated that a woman's career is not important to them in terms of attractiveness. Okay, so:

If a woman spends to much time/effort/whatever on her career, that's not attractive, and she's probably too old by the time she's looking to settle down and get married anyway.

If a woman de-emphasizes her career and financial independence in favor of looking pretty and finding a husband, great, she gets married, but then if the husband decides to divorce her, then tough luck, she's on her own.

You see why we need feminism. It isn't about retaliating, it isn't about telling you what you are supposed to like and telling you that you are sexist and bigoted if you don't find purple-haired, tattooed, 300-lb women attractive.

It's simply acknowledging logic and accepting that women are human beings.

You’re way overthinking it. Simply don’t bring your resume on a date.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it like every woman even cares about what men want? That seems to be the major thrust of the replies. [Sure, women spend billions of dollars a year trying to make themselves attractive to men, but they don't care what men want. ]

OK, you guys can dream on. In the end, women hold the cards.

Until the women hit age 30, and then the shoe is on the other foot.

30? I’m curious as to how old you are. Do you think you’ll still be able to snag hot young women once you’re in middle age? Or maybe you’re already there.

Unless you’re wealthy, they won’t want you.

Sorry. That’s just how it is.

Keep telling yourself that. I'm old, not wealthy at all, and I do fine with women. Only really young women hold all the cards.

And they usually waste those cards on hookups with hawt guys rather than using their cards to find a quality husband and start a family.

When will men take responsibility for themselves for anything?

Let's say I buy into this sexism. What is a woman supposed to do? [Easy: find a husband and have babies instead of slutting it up.] Why do men get to have their cake and eat it too? [Who said they do? Most men in their 20s are not eating cake - they are sexless.]

If a woman is not young (say, to you probably, over 30) it's all over for her because men want a young, hot woman in her 20s. If she's over 30 and still in good shape and hot, too bad, she won't be fertile for long enough. [What does this have to do with men taking responsibility for themselves?]

If a woman is in her 20s, she has to "play her cards" and "find a quality husband." Okay. But if she hurries up and finds a husband and its the wrong guy, and gets divorced, then she's in the above over-30 category and needs to "start her cat collection." Her fault. [Yes. She chose poorly. It is a basic responsibility of women (like men) to choose their spouse wisely. Though in many cases, young men and women would be better off if their parents had found partners and arranged a marriage for them.]

If she wants to wait until she finds the right person, and it takes her until well until her 30s....same thing. [There is no one right person. There are many. If she didn't find a good man in her 20s, she wasn't seriously looking, and that's on her.]

And let's take the young, hot, 25 year old.

She wants a relationship, so she avoids hookups. Tough luck, because guys want to test drive the vehicle before they buy it. Good luck finding a guy who will stay interested after you withhold sex for more than three dates. [Wrong. You are way overestimating how many guys are getting easy sex. There are plenty of men who would wait. She's just not interested.]

So she gives in and hooks up. Too bad, some of the guys got what they wanted and don't pursue a relationship, now her "number" is too high to be desirable as a wife. Her fault. [Yes, it is her fault. And if she chose more carefully, her number wouldn't be "too high" when she did find the right guy.]

So what is the correct path, according to your logic, to "playing her cards and finding a husband"? Having your parents introduce you to a suitor at church? Is that the only way? [In point of fact, yes, most young women would be far better off if they let their parents find a husband for them in their 20s. But women don't want to do that, because the culture encourages career, education, having fun, and hooking up.]

I never did see the part of your post where you explained how men weren't taking responsibility for themselves...

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone tell a potential partner how many men/women they've slept with? Who asks this question? No one ever asked me and I've never asked. Who cares. If I were asked, I would be honest. As long as a serious partner is safe (sexually), DADT seems rational.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it like every woman even cares about what men want? That seems to be the major thrust of the replies. [Sure, women spend billions of dollars a year trying to make themselves attractive to men, but they don't care what men want. ]

OK, you guys can dream on. In the end, women hold the cards.

Until the women hit age 30, and then the shoe is on the other foot.

30? I’m curious as to how old you are. Do you think you’ll still be able to snag hot young women once you’re in middle age? Or maybe you’re already there.

Unless you’re wealthy, they won’t want you.

Sorry. That’s just how it is.

Keep telling yourself that. I'm old, not wealthy at all, and I do fine with women. Only really young women hold all the cards.

And they usually waste those cards on hookups with hawt guys rather than using their cards to find a quality husband and start a family.

When will men take responsibility for themselves for anything?

Let's say I buy into this sexism. What is a woman supposed to do? [Easy: find a husband and have babies instead of slutting it up.] Why do men get to have their cake and eat it too? [Who said they do? Most men in their 20s are not eating cake - they are sexless.]

If a woman is not young (say, to you probably, over 30) it's all over for her because men want a young, hot woman in her 20s. If she's over 30 and still in good shape and hot, too bad, she won't be fertile for long enough. [What does this have to do with men taking responsibility for themselves?]

If a woman is in her 20s, she has to "play her cards" and "find a quality husband." Okay. But if she hurries up and finds a husband and its the wrong guy, and gets divorced, then she's in the above over-30 category and needs to "start her cat collection." Her fault. [Yes. She chose poorly. It is a basic responsibility of women (like men) to choose their spouse wisely. Though in many cases, young men and women would be better off if their parents had found partners and arranged a marriage for them.]

If she wants to wait until she finds the right person, and it takes her until well until her 30s....same thing. [There is no one right person. There are many. If she didn't find a good man in her 20s, she wasn't seriously looking, and that's on her.]

And let's take the young, hot, 25 year old.

She wants a relationship, so she avoids hookups. Tough luck, because guys want to test drive the vehicle before they buy it. Good luck finding a guy who will stay interested after you withhold sex for more than three dates. [Wrong. You are way overestimating how many guys are getting easy sex. There are plenty of men who would wait. She's just not interested.]

So she gives in and hooks up. Too bad, some of the guys got what they wanted and don't pursue a relationship, now her "number" is too high to be desirable as a wife. Her fault. [Yes, it is her fault. And if she chose more carefully, her number wouldn't be "too high" when she did find the right guy.]

So what is the correct path, according to your logic, to "playing her cards and finding a husband"? Having your parents introduce you to a suitor at church? Is that the only way? [In point of fact, yes, most young women would be far better off if they let their parents find a husband for them in their 20s. But women don't want to do that, because the culture encourages career, education, having fun, and hooking up.]

I never did see the part of your post where you explained how men weren't taking responsibility for themselves...

PP read The Handmaid's Tale and thought it was an instruction manual

[Anonymous]

To answer the original question: ass

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Anonymous wrote:Is it like every woman even cares about what men want? That seems to be the major thrust of the replies. [Sure, women spend billions of dollars a year trying to make themselves attractive to men, but they don't care what men want. ]

OK, you guys can dream on. In the end, women hold the cards.

Until the women hit age 30, and then the shoe is on the other foot.

30? I’m curious as to how old you are. Do you think you’ll still be able to snag hot young women once you’re in middle age? Or maybe you’re already there.

Unless you’re wealthy, they won’t want you.

Sorry. That’s just how it is.

I'm 55. Make a good income but not "wealthy". Divorced and dating a hot woman who is 37. Sorry to burst your bubble about "how it is".

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Anonymous wrote:Is it like every woman even cares about what men want? That seems to be the major thrust of the replies. [Sure, women spend billions of dollars a year trying to make themselves attractive to men, but they don't care what men want. ]

OK, you guys can dream on. In the end, women hold the cards.

Until the women hit age 30, and then the shoe is on the other foot.

30? I’m curious as to how old you are. Do you think you’ll still be able to snag hot young women once you’re in middle age? Or maybe you’re already there.

Unless you’re wealthy, they won’t want you.

Sorry. That’s just how it is.

I'm 55. Make a good income but not "wealthy". Divorced and dating a hot woman who is 37. Sorry to burst your bubble about "how it is".

Add about 7 years to both those numbers and that's me. It just isn't difficult to "snag" younger women at all. Not in this area of the country anyway. I've dated plenty. None of them within 10 years of my age.

[Anonymous]

A real nice tight butt can keep me interested for awhile

[Anonymous]

Meant awhile

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Why would that matter to a guy, weather a woman had 3 previous sexual partners or 13? What difference does it make to a guy? If the woman he marries stays incredible loyal and has only eyes for him, in what way would her previous sexual history bother him?

Doesn't matter why it matters. You might as well ask why it matters to women that a man is taller than them. Maybe it shouldn't, but it does.

It probably won't matter for casual dating, but it certainly matters for marriage. The more previous partners she's had, the more likely the marriage will end in divorce. Not to put too fine a point on it, if she's had a lot of previous partners, this decreases the odds that she will "stays incredible loyal and has only eyes for him".

Finally, the question is not what men should want, but what men do want. And they don't want a girl who has been plundered by countless other guys.

Exactly. It’s because the morality that made her feel it was OK to sleep with lots of guys is the same morality that will cheat during difficult times. It’s a proxy for general values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone tell a potential partner how many men/women they've slept with? Who asks this question? No one ever asked me and I've never asked. Who cares. If I were asked, I would be honest. As long as a serious partner is safe (sexually), DADT seems rational.

because it's relevant to what kind of relationship material you are. If you've never been asked it, men obviously don't care to be in a relationship with you.

[Anonymous]

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