Nothing tastes as good as thin feels

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Lightly fried tuna!
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Anonymous wrote:I think the whole US emphasis on thin as a sign of beauty is sick. And I am a thin person. There seems to be an idea that denying yourself the pleasure of eating is some kind of a moral high ground. And that leads to eating disorders. Plenty of people have a healthy mind set about eating and weight all around the world. Fix the mind set, you will fix obesity crisis. Plenty of people enjoy food without feeling guilty about it. I assure you baguette with butter tastes good, so does steak, enjoying food doesn't lead to obesity, more likely opposite is true.
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Of course. This idea is called asceticism and it goes back thousands of years. You can still note its historical influence in both Buddhist and Christian monasticism, and also in the Catholic observance of lent and the cyclical fasts of the Orthodox church. I would disagree that this is just a US thing that is particular to our current culture and time because it's too universal, but I do agree that it can encourage or worsen an ED.
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The time I really identified with this statement is around the time I realized my diet was taking over my life. I was never a full blown anorexic. But I did feel a strange high when the scale ticked down, and I started to lose weight so fast that it scared me. I was doing intermittent fasting and I started to think, gee I've gone 16 hours today without eating, I could just not eat until tomorrow, etc. It was crazy.
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Anonymous wrote:For me, nothing tastes as good as thin feels, yes.

I am losing weight now and finally am not overweight. I eat plenty of food I love on keto. I don't crave sugar or junk food at all. But if I want to have a treat, I'll have it, once or twice a week.


Keep it up for 5 years and I'll be interested in your musings.


You sound so negative. I eat healthy, what's the problem? Should I eat dessert every day or at every meal in your opinion? Even if I don't want to? )))) I

It's amazing how any woman who simply says that she watches what she eats gets bashed here.
Anonymous
No, they’re bashing Keto not women.

I’m another who is amazed at how people keep doing these fad diets.
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Anonymous wrote:Having just put in the work needed to take off 40 pounds, I agree with you Op. There is no food so wonderful tasting that it would be worth regaining those 40 pounds only to have to struggle to take them back off. Lasagna, pie, pizza, cookies - so not worth it.

I indulge a little here and there but it's in a manageable way.

I don't look down on morbidly obese people. I would imagine that having so much weight to lose would be overwhelming. But you've got to start somewhere...


Some of us never abused food, or our bodies, and not fear lasagna and pie.

It’s always the people who had 40 pounds to lose in the first place who think they are sooooooo virtuous...


This exactly. Ugh. I've had many people in my life drop 20-40 pounds, and beyond. Many due to hard work, which I admire. But still, people who have maintained a healthy weight their whole lives DO NOT NEED TO BE LECTURED about how "lasagna, pie, pizza cookies" are "so not worth it."

We know how to enjoy all of those things without overdoing it, thanks. That's why we've always been able to wear clothing in straight sizes, etc. We've managed to do it without obsession, thanks.


Where on earth do you get that I'm lecturing you? I simply stated that FOR ME there is no food worth going back to being 40 pounds heavier. If I eat too many carbs (probably a normal serving for you) I become prediabetic. My insulin levels go up and I store fat. All the exercise and whole grains are not going to take it off. I have no choice but to cut out carbs in my daily diet, lose weight and have higher carbs on only special occasions, usually followed by a fast.

That's what I need to do. If you can eat Corn Flakes and Lean Pockets every day more power to you (doesn't mean that it's healthy, tho).

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For me, nothing tastes as good as thin feels, yes.

I am losing weight now and finally am not overweight. I eat plenty of food I love on keto. I don't crave sugar or junk food at all. But if I want to have a treat, I'll have it, once or twice a week.


Keep it up for 5 years and I'll be interested in your musings.


You sound so negative. I eat healthy, what's the problem? Should I eat dessert every day or at every meal in your opinion? Even if I don't want to? )))) I

It's amazing how any woman who simply says that she watches what she eats gets bashed here.


I am not negative; I do think that it is great that you are losing weight and are getting healthy.

I just get so tired of people who have recently lost weight/are in a program getting so smug and preachy. Especially when--as I've seen in many, many cases among people in my circle--that they get off track, gain the weight...then take it off a few years later and are back to being smug and preachy.

I've never not been at a healthy weight, and I don't need people going on and on about "have you tried keto? It's sooooo great"...my diet and exercise habits are, and have always been, great. I don't need keto.
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Anonymous wrote:Having just put in the work needed to take off 40 pounds, I agree with you Op. There is no food so wonderful tasting that it would be worth regaining those 40 pounds only to have to struggle to take them back off. Lasagna, pie, pizza, cookies - so not worth it.

I indulge a little here and there but it's in a manageable way.

I don't look down on morbidly obese people. I would imagine that having so much weight to lose would be overwhelming. But you've got to start somewhere...


Some of us never abused food, or our bodies, and not fear lasagna and pie.

It’s always the people who had 40 pounds to lose in the first place who think they are sooooooo virtuous...


This exactly. Ugh. I've had many people in my life drop 20-40 pounds, and beyond. Many due to hard work, which I admire. But still, people who have maintained a healthy weight their whole lives DO NOT NEED TO BE LECTURED about how "lasagna, pie, pizza cookies" are "so not worth it."

We know how to enjoy all of those things without overdoing it, thanks. That's why we've always been able to wear clothing in straight sizes, etc. We've managed to do it without obsession, thanks.


Where on earth do you get that I'm lecturing you? I simply stated that FOR ME there is no food worth going back to being 40 pounds heavier. If I eat too many carbs (probably a normal serving for you) I become prediabetic. My insulin levels go up and I store fat. All the exercise and whole grains are not going to take it off. I have no choice but to cut out carbs in my daily diet, lose weight and have higher carbs on only special occasions, usually followed by a fast.

That's what I need to do. If you can eat Corn Flakes and Lean Pockets every day more power to you (doesn't mean that it's healthy, tho).



Do you get that people who eat a ***normal, healthy*** diet are not eating trash? A piece of homemade lasaga, or pie, or a good-quality pizza, or a good-quality cookie, are not garbage. Lean Pockets and Corn Flakes are trash.

Again, you're try to make normal/healthy eating seem like trashy/horrible eating. I'm going back to the A) B) C) eating examples above.

I'm sorry you can't live your life in the B) category. But that doesn't mean you get to put me in the C) category.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the whole US emphasis on thin as a sign of beauty is sick. And I am a thin person. There seems to be an idea that denying yourself the pleasure of eating is some kind of a moral high ground. And that leads to eating disorders. Plenty of people have a healthy mind set about eating and weight all around the world. Fix the mind set, you will fix obesity crisis. Plenty of people enjoy food without feeling guilty about it. I assure you baguette with butter tastes good, so does steak, enjoying food doesn't lead to obesity, more likely opposite is true.
'

Of course. This idea is called asceticism and it goes back thousands of years. You can still note its historical influence in both Buddhist and Christian monasticism, and also in the Catholic observance of lent and the cyclical fasts of the Orthodox church. I would disagree that this is just a US thing that is particular to our current culture and time because it's too universal, but I do agree that it can encourage or worsen an ED.

The religious facts aren’t only about a moral high ground. When one fasts and practices a religious ritual, they aren’t thinking about when they can leave for their next meal, what’s for dinner, or if they left an oven on: their thoughts are only on the ritual. When one fasts, one can get hyper-focused, and the lightheadedness can lead to hallucinations or epiphanies.
Anonymous
Consider the source- Keto Adkins paleo etc. people who can’t maintain healthy eating or so t know HOW to eat healthily are the ones who live in bacon grease for a year lose weight and tell others all about it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Having just put in the work needed to take off 40 pounds, I agree with you Op. There is no food so wonderful tasting that it would be worth regaining those 40 pounds only to have to struggle to take them back off. Lasagna, pie, pizza, cookies - so not worth it.

I indulge a little here and there but it's in a manageable way.

I don't look down on morbidly obese people. I would imagine that having so much weight to lose would be overwhelming. But you've got to start somewhere...


Some of us never abused food, or our bodies, and not fear lasagna and pie.

It’s always the people who had 40 pounds to lose in the first place who think they are sooooooo virtuous...


This exactly. Ugh. I've had many people in my life drop 20-40 pounds, and beyond. Many due to hard work, which I admire. But still, people who have maintained a healthy weight their whole lives DO NOT NEED TO BE LECTURED about how "lasagna, pie, pizza cookies" are "so not worth it."

We know how to enjoy all of those things without overdoing it, thanks. That's why we've always been able to wear clothing in straight sizes, etc. We've managed to do it without obsession, thanks.


Where on earth do you get that I'm lecturing you? I simply stated that FOR ME there is no food worth going back to being 40 pounds heavier. If I eat too many carbs (probably a normal serving for you) I become prediabetic. My insulin levels go up and I store fat. All the exercise and whole grains are not going to take it off. I have no choice but to cut out carbs in my daily diet, lose weight and have higher carbs on only special occasions, usually followed by a fast.

That's what I need to do. If you can eat Corn Flakes and Lean Pockets every day more power to you (doesn't mean that it's healthy, tho).



Do you get that people who eat a ***normal, healthy*** diet are not eating trash? A piece of homemade lasaga, or pie, or a good-quality pizza, or a good-quality cookie, are not garbage. Lean Pockets and Corn Flakes are trash.

Again, you're try to make normal/healthy eating seem like trashy/horrible eating. I'm going back to the A) B) C) eating examples above.

I'm sorry you can't live your life in the B) category. But that doesn't mean you get to put me in the C) category.


Your lovely homemade lasagna and pie will spike my insulin and make me store fat for days. That is what it means to have too much insulin in your blood. Thankfully, I know how to manage it by eating foods that are good for me.

When i was younger I was thin. Then suddenly I started to put on weight as I got older. My metabolism changed. My hormones have changed. You either adapt to it and figure out what you need to do to stay healthy or you continue to gain weight.
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Anonymous wrote:Consider the source- Keto Adkins paleo etc. people who can’t maintain healthy eating or so t know HOW to eat healthily are the ones who live in bacon grease for a year lose weight and tell others all about it.


There are people on Keto who eat lots of fatty processed foods. There are vegetarians who eat mostly crap.

The meals I plan on Keto are very healthy and well balanced. I occasionally have a bunless burger w/swiss and sauteed mushrooms but I consider that to be a treat, not a staple of my diet.
Anonymous
Eliminating entire food sources is not healthy or well balanced . It may work short term to lose Wright- but so do cigarettes and meth.
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Anonymous wrote:Eliminating entire food sources is not healthy or well balanced . It may work short term to lose Wright- but so do cigarettes and meth.


My diet is nutrient dense and satisfying. It keeps my blood sugar even and makes me feel great. I'm losing weight, I've got energy, my skin and hair look better. I think I'm doing pretty o.k.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For me, nothing tastes as good as thin feels, yes.

I am losing weight now and finally am not overweight. I eat plenty of food I love on keto. I don't crave sugar or junk food at all. But if I want to have a treat, I'll have it, once or twice a week.


Keep it up for 5 years and I'll be interested in your musings.


You sound so negative. I eat healthy, what's the problem? Should I eat dessert every day or at every meal in your opinion? Even if I don't want to? )))) I

It's amazing how any woman who simply says that she watches what she eats gets bashed here.


I am not negative; I do think that it is great that you are losing weight and are getting healthy.

I just get so tired of people who have recently lost weight/are in a program getting so smug and preachy. Especially when--as I've seen in many, many cases among people in my circle--that they get off track, gain the weight...then take it off a few years later and are back to being smug and preachy.

I've never not been at a healthy weight, and I don't need people going on and on about "have you tried keto? It's sooooo great"...my diet and exercise habits are, and have always been, great. I don't need keto.


I think you will agree that I didn't try to persuade anyone to go keto I actually make it a point to never preach people about keto. If they insist that I share how I lost weight, then of course I tell them.

If you've been healthy weight all your life, it's awesome. However, *I* need to actually do something to lose weight and I will not undermine my progress by eating dessert or other cabs every day (I will indulge every now and then and will get on and off keto as I wish). I lost 29 lbs and feel great. And just like you, I find it laughable when people who haven't even done their homework on low carb (I don't mean you) try to scare me.

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