Surviving R. Kelly

[Anonymous]

I'm pp, sorry made a mistake in above post. The lawyer's response to the question was "yes" He does deny those allegations.

[Anonymous]

Black woman here. I cancelled R Kelly years ago, never watched the pee video and wondered why anybody would want to watch a a child being raped and abused. I always believed the accusations probably because I grew up with a father, grandfathers, uncles, brothers and male cousins who loved and protected me so I knew dysfunction and predatory behavior when I saw it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This story has been going on for years but the music industry still embraces him. Didn't he do a duet with Lady Gaga? Plenty of people, blacks and whites, buy his music and attend his concerts. If he had done this to young white girls he'd be in jail. why haven't people like Oprah taken him to task?

How telling that you think “people like Oprah”—black people—should take him to task when you admit all races support his music. Has it occurred to you that white people, too, have a responsibility to these black girls and have failed miserably? The only people who have spoken out are black people, even though whites run his record company, own Spotify and Apple and other platforms, and control distribution. The real question is why white people are so heartless and racist that you feel no responsibility here.

I agree with the PP. Black people are only taking him to task now because we do not want to look bad in the eyes from white people. However, sexual assaulting girls and rampant misogyny are embraced in the black community. Black men in general have profited off of abusing our women and girls for years. When folks came out years ago about the denigration of black women and girls from black men specifically those within the music industry folks cried racism. I was told on this very forum a few years ago, "Well it is our culture and it is art." As a crisis counselor who has spent years working with black families I have heard far too many times, "We do not want to see another brother going to jail." This is not just about the POS R. Kelly is about the culture at large which refuses to protect black girls from predators especially when those predators are black men. You know how many black women have been sexually assaulted as girls by men in their family, community, or in church? I have lost count. The black community looks the other way and blames the victim of abuse. When it comes time to prosecute these men who assault children people rally around the predators and give them protection. Often times in the black community when our girls are assaulted she is the one who is ostracized. It is disheartening black women and girls do not have a voice. The abuse within the black community especially our girls and even our boys are not giving justice because our society has embrace black men being sexually violent.

Now black folks want to act like we care about our girls. It's BS! Those of us who have been on the frontlines fighting these monsters for years were ignored. If anything, it took going outside of the black community for some of us advocates to get justice. We need to seriously stop protecting black men who prey on women and girls. We need to stop excusing their degenerate behavior and blaming racism for the reason why they behave the way that they do. Other so call "good black men" need to call other black men to task and speak out for their daughters, sisters, and mothers. It is beyond despicable how years of covering up sexual abuse within the black community has damaged so many black women who were abused as children. Folks only care now because it is a celebrity that many people worshipped, but this tragedy goes further than just R. Kelly. We can no longer continue pointing the finger at white people. There are many R. Kellys within our communities, churches, and in some cases families. The real question is, "Are black people going to step up and work with law enforcement to turn in the sexual predators that they know? Are black people going to continue financially supporting black people (entertainers, those within the church, etc.) who are abusers? Are other black men going to call out child predators who harassed children? Or are they going blame the victim? Protecting child predators has gone for years within the black community this is not new. Families don't even report abuses in many cases and many black girls suffer in silence. Turn these monsters in and denounce them from our community. Who cares if they go to jail. So many people knew about R. Kelly, but they turned a blind eye.

Anyone who coverup the abuse of children or anyone for that matter should be prosecuted and held accountable for protecting predators. When this R. Kelly saga is over the black community will go back to living in denial by blaming white people for these uncivilized creatures like R Kelly and their inhumane behavior. It's so sickening that we refuse to protect our children especially our girls!

WTF!!!
What damn black people are you talking about???
What singular monolithic community are you talking about????

How dare you say all black people are protecting child predators .
Sexual abuse crosses all SES groups, races , cultures .
By the way, there is no such thing as one damn 'black' culture.
Shame on you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Black people are only taking him to task now because we do not want to look bad in the eyes from white people.” I disagree, black women have been #muterkelly for a long time. I do truly wonder though... are you black?

You took the words right out of my mouth.

+1000. A white person wrote that post and the only people fooled are other white people. Black people, especially black women, have been pushing to hold R. Kelly responsible for years. As a previous post mentioned, white A&R people are behind R. Kelly and always have been because he is perceived as a hitmaker. Not one of the record companies that have long backed him are black owned or black run. And not one of the platforms still streaming and selling his music are black owned or black run. As long as white people do not care about black children while making a buck off a pedophile’s songs, R. Kelly will remain powerful.

Right. However, there is still an overwhelming amount of black women (and men) who are defending him. The mentality needs to change within the community, first. His assistant, his manager, the people closest to him were not white. Those are the people who had the opportunity to stop him and shed light on this problem, decades ago.

And it there are a bunch of white people defending Roy Moore in Alabama... So what is your dumbass point?

[Anonymous]

I watched the six episodes in one sitting & was so frightened that I couldn't sleep. I empathize with every victim, parent and person who judge the situation in terms of support for R. Kelly therefore I am completely saddened and can't articulate how I feel. This man's music is the soundtrack of my youth; Aalyiah and I are the same age and I was a huge fan of her. I've listened to and seen his image 1000s of times. He has spiritual music and is featured in rap music so he has always been around. His art was an outlet in dark times. Pray and continue to talk to ppl who don't understand and keep talking. Take breaks and let us process. We are working out our trauma in the process.

He has special needs who never got properly evaluated and worked out which is another major fail of the Chicago school system. I've been looking at images of him and noticed in one picture that his eyes go in different directions or maybe a lazy eye. Although he is grew in age is his mind stuck as a teenager? Is he the industry biggest puppet; I heard that he doesn't own his music but wrote most of it...WTH happened? Is he the best example of an evil spirit in modern times even labeling himself a the "pied piper." Is this an example of idolizing false prophets?

I'm at a turning and I need answers. Pray for the inner child in all of us that are starting to deal with and heal with these revelations. And, I thank God that I don't have to deal with myself and my life choices in terms of following public ppl such as R Kelly, Cosby, Usher with power and money as most of the world is laughing on.

[Anonymous]

All documentaries have a message they want to get across. This one was no different. Hopefully, people in these type of situations are asking themselves how to get out of them and/or prevent predators in the future regardless of R. Kelly. As for R. Kelly, since the documentary Chicago police have been on him. They crashed his birthday party saying they heard there was a warrant for his arrest. There wasn't, so the party went on. They received a tip he was holding two women. Police went to his home and questioned the women, one believed to be Jocelyn Savage. R. Kelly was being questioned in another room. The women said they were not there against their will and the police left. Dallas police said no criminal activity in the herpes case. The woman said she will file a police report in New York, where the encounter allegedly took place. She already filed a civil suit. His studio will be searched this week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched the six episodes in one sitting & was so frightened that I couldn't sleep. I empathize with every victim, parent and person who judge the situation in terms of support for R. Kelly therefore I am completely saddened and can't articulate how I feel. This man's music is the soundtrack of my youth; Aalyiah and I are the same age and I was a huge fan of her. I've listened to and seen his image 1000s of times. He has spiritual music and is featured in rap music so he has always been around. His art was an outlet in dark times. Pray and continue to talk to ppl who don't understand and keep talking. Take breaks and let us process. We are working out our trauma in the process.

He has special needs who never got properly evaluated and worked out which is another major fail of the Chicago school system. I've been looking at images of him and noticed in one picture that his eyes go in different directions or maybe a lazy eye. Although he is grew in age is his mind stuck as a teenager? Is he the industry biggest puppet; I heard that he doesn't own his music but wrote most of it...WTH happened? Is he the best example of an evil spirit in modern times even labeling himself a the "pied piper." Is this an example of idolizing false prophets?

I'm at a turning and I need answers. Pray for the inner child in all of us that are starting to deal with and heal with these revelations. And, I thank God that I don't have to deal with myself and my life choices in terms of following public ppl such as R Kelly, Cosby, Usher with power and money as most of the world is laughing on.

Sorry, but the jails are full of people who had bad childhoods and special needs. At least financially and professionally he appears to have overcome his “special needs.” I have no sympathy for this criminal, pedophile, rapist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched the six episodes in one sitting & was so frightened that I couldn't sleep. I empathize with every victim, parent and person who judge the situation in terms of support for R. Kelly therefore I am completely saddened and can't articulate how I feel. This man's music is the soundtrack of my youth; Aalyiah and I are the same age and I was a huge fan of her. I've listened to and seen his image 1000s of times. He has spiritual music and is featured in rap music so he has always been around. His art was an outlet in dark times. Pray and continue to talk to ppl who don't understand and keep talking. Take breaks and let us process. We are working out our trauma in the process.

He has special needs who never got properly evaluated and worked out which is another major fail of the Chicago school system. I've been looking at images of him and noticed in one picture that his eyes go in different directions or maybe a lazy eye. Although he is grew in age is his mind stuck as a teenager? Is he the industry biggest puppet; I heard that he doesn't own his music but wrote most of it...WTH happened? Is he the best example of an evil spirit in modern times even labeling himself a the "pied piper." Is this an example of idolizing false prophets?

I'm at a turning and I need answers. Pray for the inner child in all of us that are starting to deal with and heal with these revelations. And, I thank God that I don't have to deal with myself and my life choices in terms of following public ppl such as R Kelly, Cosby, Usher with power and money as most of the world is laughing on.

Sorry, but the jails are full of people who had bad childhoods and special needs. At least financially and professionally he appears to have overcome his “special needs.” I have no sympathy for this criminal, pedophile, rapist.

For maybe 30 years... he's all down hill now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched the six episodes in one sitting & was so frightened that I couldn't sleep. I empathize with every victim, parent and person who judge the situation in terms of support for R. Kelly therefore I am completely saddened and can't articulate how I feel. This man's music is the soundtrack of my youth; Aalyiah and I are the same age and I was a huge fan of her. I've listened to and seen his image 1000s of times. He has spiritual music and is featured in rap music so he has always been around. His art was an outlet in dark times. Pray and continue to talk to ppl who don't understand and keep talking. Take breaks and let us process. We are working out our trauma in the process.

He has special needs who never got properly evaluated and worked out which is another major fail of the Chicago school system. I've been looking at images of him and noticed in one picture that his eyes go in different directions or maybe a lazy eye. Although he is grew in age is his mind stuck as a teenager? Is he the industry biggest puppet; I heard that he doesn't own his music but wrote most of it...WTH happened? Is he the best example of an evil spirit in modern times even labeling himself a the "pied piper." Is this an example of idolizing false prophets?

I'm at a turning and I need answers. Pray for the inner child in all of us that are starting to deal with and heal with these revelations. And, I thank God that I don't have to deal with myself and my life choices in terms of following public ppl such as R Kelly, Cosby, Usher with power and money as most of the world is laughing on.

What are you talking about? Please explain what special needs makes someone a child rapist?

[Anonymous]

I’m on the 2nd episode and the abuse is sickening. But the age of some of these women was 17, 18. I knew exactly what I was doing at 15 and 16. Maybe I didn’t understand the consequences of my actions, but I knew what my body was capable of and what I could elicit from adult married men. Wtf is wrong with me that I can’t help but think they allowed these things because they wanted something from him. They were old enough to know better. Am I a sicko too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched the six episodes in one sitting & was so frightened that I couldn't sleep. I empathize with every victim, parent and person who judge the situation in terms of support for R. Kelly therefore I am completely saddened and can't articulate how I feel. This man's music is the soundtrack of my youth; Aalyiah and I are the same age and I was a huge fan of her. I've listened to and seen his image 1000s of times. He has spiritual music and is featured in rap music so he has always been around. His art was an outlet in dark times. Pray and continue to talk to ppl who don't understand and keep talking. Take breaks and let us process. We are working out our trauma in the process.

He has special needs who never got properly evaluated and worked out which is another major fail of the Chicago school system. I've been looking at images of him and noticed in one picture that his eyes go in different directions or maybe a lazy eye. Although he is grew in age is his mind stuck as a teenager? Is he the industry biggest puppet; I heard that he doesn't own his music but wrote most of it...WTH happened? Is he the best example of an evil spirit in modern times even labeling himself a the "pied piper." Is this an example of idolizing false prophets?

I'm at a turning and I need answers. Pray for the inner child in all of us that are starting to deal with and heal with these revelations. And, I thank God that I don't have to deal with myself and my life choices in terms of following public ppl such as R Kelly, Cosby, Usher with power and money as most of the world is laughing on.

What are you talking about? Please explain what special needs makes someone a child rapist?

His special needs and being a a serial child rapist are two separate situations. If you look at the documentary it is recorded throughout that he couldn’t read or write and was bullied for it as a child. I assume anyone who can’t read or write can be special needs and needs specialists to help him overcome . Not sure why and how you made that connection from what you read. But never said that special needs and child rapist is connected ... ugh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m on the 2nd episode and the abuse is sickening. But the age of some of these women was 17, 18. I knew exactly what I was doing at 15 and 16. Maybe I didn’t understand the consequences of my actions, but I knew what my body was capable of and what I could elicit from adult married men. Wtf is wrong with me that I can’t help but think they allowed these things because they wanted something from him. They were old enough to know better. Am I a sicko too?

I think they can start by wanting something that he openly advertised and promised to lure them in is one part. The other part is the hitting, gaslighting,
Starvation, separation in his house, constant checking in to use the bathroom, not talking but banging and knocking to communicate, isolation from family, recorded sexual acts without consent, brainwashing, his team who protected him and made sure things were in place are the other parts of this sick story.
Just keep watching then return with your comment to let us know if your feelings changed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched the six episodes in one sitting & was so frightened that I couldn't sleep. I empathize with every victim, parent and person who judge the situation in terms of support for R. Kelly therefore I am completely saddened and can't articulate how I feel. This man's music is the soundtrack of my youth; Aalyiah and I are the same age and I was a huge fan of her. I've listened to and seen his image 1000s of times. He has spiritual music and is featured in rap music so he has always been around. His art was an outlet in dark times. Pray and continue to talk to ppl who don't understand and keep talking. Take breaks and let us process. We are working out our trauma in the process.

He has special needs who never got properly evaluated and worked out which is another major fail of the Chicago school system. I've been looking at images of him and noticed in one picture that his eyes go in different directions or maybe a lazy eye. Although he is grew in age is his mind stuck as a teenager? Is he the industry biggest puppet; I heard that he doesn't own his music but wrote most of it...WTH happened? Is he the best example of an evil spirit in modern times even labeling himself a the "pied piper." Is this an example of idolizing false prophets?

I'm at a turning and I need answers. Pray for the inner child in all of us that are starting to deal with and heal with these revelations. And, I thank God that I don't have to deal with myself and my life choices in terms of following public ppl such as R Kelly, Cosby, Usher with power and money as most of the world is laughing on.

WTF are you sobbing about? What is wrong with you that you see HIM as a victim in all this?

Oh and you’re a victim too. Needing to “heal” and “process”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m on the 2nd episode and the abuse is sickening. But the age of some of these women was 17, 18. I knew exactly what I was doing at 15 and 16. Maybe I didn’t understand the consequences of my actions, but I knew what my body was capable of and what I could elicit from adult married men. Wtf is wrong with me that I can’t help but think they allowed these things because they wanted something from him. They were old enough to know better. Am I a sicko too?

Yes, yes you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched the six episodes in one sitting & was so frightened that I couldn't sleep. I empathize with every victim, parent and person who judge the situation in terms of support for R. Kelly therefore I am completely saddened and can't articulate how I feel. This man's music is the soundtrack of my youth; Aalyiah and I are the same age and I was a huge fan of her. I've listened to and seen his image 1000s of times. He has spiritual music and is featured in rap music so he has always been around. His art was an outlet in dark times. Pray and continue to talk to ppl who don't understand and keep talking. Take breaks and let us process. We are working out our trauma in the process.

He has special needs who never got properly evaluated and worked out which is another major fail of the Chicago school system. I've been looking at images of him and noticed in one picture that his eyes go in different directions or maybe a lazy eye. Although he is grew in age is his mind stuck as a teenager? Is he the industry biggest puppet; I heard that he doesn't own his music but wrote most of it...WTH happened? Is he the best example of an evil spirit in modern times even labeling himself a the "pied piper." Is this an example of idolizing false prophets?

I'm at a turning and I need answers. Pray for the inner child in all of us that are starting to deal with and heal with these revelations. And, I thank God that I don't have to deal with myself and my life choices in terms of following public ppl such as R Kelly, Cosby, Usher with power and money as most of the world is laughing on.

What are you talking about? Please explain what special needs makes someone a child rapist?

His special needs and being a a serial child rapist are two separate situations. If you look at the documentary it is recorded throughout that he couldn’t read or write and was bullied for it as a child. I assume anyone who can’t read or write can be special needs and needs specialists to help him overcome . Not sure why and how you made that connection from what you read. But never said that special needs and child rapist is connected ... ugh

Nobody gives a f*ck that he's illiterate. He is a rapist end of story!