Ivy League Aspirations Unleashed (NYT Q&A with Harvard's DofA)

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is forgetting that the most successful business people are NOT from Ivies. Look at the Fortune 500 CEOs.

Your college, for the most part, becomes moot after awhile because successful businesses hire the most successful people - Ivies be damned. The Ivies don't have a wrap on success and it's silly and detrimental to think that they are the magic bullet.



Not everyone defines success in terms of net worth.



Ask them to up your dosage.


You all can not see a person who loves their work, happily lives within their means and lives a rich, full and balanced life as successful?
Anonymous
Hello - that goes w/o saying PP
Anonymous
From these threads and everyone's push for Ivies, I keep hearing about how success is measured by becoming a lawyer, etc.

It is overall happiness with oneself and his/her goals. But it's silly to think that the Ivies have the edge on turning out well-balanced, happy people.

Maybe posters need to state what constitutes success in their posts.
Anonymous
I think the Ivy League, especially the business schools are WAY overrated. My boss went to Wharton and can't manage his way out of wet paper bag.

I on the other hand went to a well-respected public institution even though I got accepted to Princeton (gasp!) and I happen to have enough common sense to know when someone makes a crappy business decision.

Unfortunately, some people like the brand names and you'll be rewarded handsomely if you can list one of the big three on your resume. Not fair, but that's the way things go some times.

Anonymous
Ivy envy above
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Anonymous wrote:Ivy envy above


12:50 here...there's no envy whatsoever. I've done quite well for myself without the over-priced degree.
Anonymous
You got into Princeton? .....right!
Ivy envy
Anonymous
Try hard, but I doubt that 12:50 could be put in the box of "ivy envy" quite that easily. Sounds like an independent, original thinker to me -- with a great point about choosing schools by brand name.
Anonymous
People lie -- these posts are annoymous afterall.
Anonymous
Yes -- I agree with PP -- people lie to substantiate their points..we should have to include our names and then they're wouldn't be these exaggerations
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From these threads and everyone's push for Ivies, I keep hearing about how success is measured by becoming a lawyer, etc.

It is overall happiness with oneself and his/her goals. But it's silly to think that the Ivies have the edge on turning out well-balanced, happy people.

Maybe posters need to state what constitutes success in their posts.


Calling this "Ivy" obsession is an exaggeration. Yes, some of us are *interested* in the Ivies as a *potential* place for our kids. But most of us realize that it's not the be all and end all. Obviously, success is measured in so many different ways, some of which you've mentioned.

So Ivies are a small piece of the puzzle. But can't we even discuss them in that context, as a small piece, without getting harangued?
Anonymous
As a new poster, all I am reading about is the fixation on Ivies and the so-called "Big 3." Very few are posting about how they would love for their kids to get into smaller, independent schools, women's colleges or even the big state powerhouses.

In my reading of the posts, it definitely appears to me that many parents (or maybe it's just a few who are posting repeatedly) are secretly (or not so secretly) pushing their kids to get into these 7 schools.

When I read posts that include references to UC, UVA, U of Chicago, Williams, Amherst, Wellesley, etc., then I will see parents looking at the bigger picture instead of being fixated on Ivies.
Anonymous
Check out the College forum. Somebody there is asking for smaller schools. Womens' colleges have been recommended there.

The problem may be this Private school thread, where there is an obsession with top schools.
Anonymous
If someone is going to do the 5 hours of homework in high school -- they're certainly not going to shoot for an average college...they're going to shoot for the top. And, parents should not decide for their kids to shoot for something smaller unless it comes down to cost. Even then, a lot of privates are offering better aid now than the publics that are revoking merit scholarships as we speak because of state budget cuts.

I think some of the people responding on these posts don't have a kid at a private school; if they did -- they would know what the score is relative to homework hours and the likes.
Anonymous
Absolutely agree PP
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