Oldest kids in class do better, even through college - NPR

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Anonymous wrote:Most "summer birthday boys"? Summer birthdays range from part of June through part of September. Who would redshirt a June or July kid?

Plenty. I've seen parents redshirt May birthday boys.

My nephew, born in May, was held back. He'd been late to start preschool because he resisted potty training and was generally immature emotionally so it made sense at the time. He's now a HS freshman and doing well.

My DS, born late June, went on time and at the time I had no concerns at all -- he was already reading well, doing math beyond a 1st grade level, extremely social, very confident. But our schools' ridiculous expectations for young children in school still made things very difficult for him. He almost immediately came to hate school and I heard all the time about immaturity, impulse control, etc. Finally, by 4th grade he caught up and classroom behavior was no longer a problem. But he still really dislikes school. I had a number of discussions over the years with the school counselor and second-guessed our decision to send him on but her take was that if we'd held him back he'd still be getting in trouble but out of boredom rather than immaturity and that is harder to deal with.

We agonized over whether or not to delay the start of K for our early summer birthday DS and wound up sending him on time. I think it was the right decision for him. And we based that decision partly on the maturity level of DH and myself at the age of 18. I personally would have hated being in HS for a year longer than I was and DH would have been the same way.

I think that in our son's case we could have gone either way (sent him on time or waited a year) and it would have been o.k. I do think that he will be very ready to start college next year.

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Exactly. If we really expected schools to solve all of the problems of poverty, we would provide enough resources to the schools so that they would have enough people for all of those functions, instead of expecting teachers to do everything.

A different teacher here who spent years with Title I. With all the resources in the world, the school cannot be all the things that the PP listed. Money is not going to solve the problem. It requires a change in priorities.
For example, all this talk about changing school names and transgender issues. Neither of these is going to really help anyone. Yet, we are spending time and resources on them. The FCPS School Board has spent more time on these issues than the budget--or, at least it appears that way.

Oh, I don't know. I think that when the school board decides to get rid of a school name that was picked in the 1950s to express resistance to civil rights, that helps all of us. I also think that when kids who are transgender can go use the public restroom just like kids who are cisgender, that helps kids who are transgender, as well as those of us who care about the education of all children. You can't learn well when you're worried about where and when you're going to be able to use a restroom.

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Exactly. If we really expected schools to solve all of the problems of poverty, we would provide enough resources to the schools so that they would have enough people for all of those functions, instead of expecting teachers to do everything.

A different teacher here who spent years with Title I. With all the resources in the world, the school cannot be all the things that the PP listed. Money is not going to solve the problem. It requires a change in priorities.
For example, all this talk about changing school names and transgender issues. Neither of these is going to really help anyone. Yet, we are spending time and resources on them. The FCPS School Board has spent more time on these issues than the budget--or, at least it appears that way.

Yes, it can.

http://hcz.org/our-programs/

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I was one of the youngest in my class, was at the top of my class in every grade, and graduated with Honors when I was 17. I never studied and I never had homework.

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You can't learn well when you're worried about where and when you're going to be able to use a restroom.

Let the schools handle it.

As for the reason the schools were named as they were--that is a myth.

I agree they were not the best choices--but is it wise to spend that kind of money on something that does not need to affect the kids.

Money could be better spent elsewhere. Those names have pretty much been ignored for years. Go see what Charles Barkley has to say about it.

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You can't learn well when you're worried about where and when you're going to be able to use a restroom.

Let the schools handle it.

As for the reason the schools were named as they were--that is a myth.

I agree they were not the best choices--but is it wise to spend that kind of money on something that does not need to affect the kids.

Money could be better spent elsewhere. Those names have pretty much been ignored for years. Go see what Charles Barkley has to say about it.

JEB Stuart High School was named in 1958. Also in 1958 in Virginia - "massive resistance". Was that a coincidence?

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The cutoffs should be hard and fast, with the possible exception of major disabilities.

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JEB Stuart High School was named in 1958. Also in 1958 in Virginia - "massive resistance". Was that a coincidence?

It was named because he had a camp at the location of the school. Is that so hard to understand?

Schools across the south have been named for famous people for years. It was not rare. It may have been based on romanticism, but the South revered these people. Gone with the Wind, etc.
Same as the Scots revering their ancestors.

Just because someone yells "massive resistance" does not mean that was the motive.

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JEB Stuart High School was named in 1958. Also in 1958 in Virginia - "massive resistance". Was that a coincidence?

It was named because he had a camp at the location of the school. Is that so hard to understand?

Schools across the south have been named for famous people for years. It was not rare. It may have been based on romanticism, but the South revered these people. Gone with the Wind, etc.
Same as the Scots revering their ancestors.

Just because someone yells "massive resistance" does not mean that was the motive.

I don't know, I would not want to go to Hitler HS.

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Anonymous wrote:

JEB Stuart High School was named in 1958. Also in 1958 in Virginia - "massive resistance". Was that a coincidence?

It was named because he had a camp at the location of the school. Is that so hard to understand?

Schools across the south have been named for famous people for years. It was not rare. It may have been based on romanticism, but the South revered these people. Gone with the Wind, etc.
Same as the Scots revering their ancestors.

Just because someone yells "massive resistance" does not mean that was the motive.

Well, the white people in the South did. Particularly around the times that the black people in the South were vocal about civil rights. Purely coincidence, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Exactly. If we really expected schools to solve all of the problems of poverty, we would provide enough resources to the schools so that they would have enough people for all of those functions, instead of expecting teachers to do everything.

A different teacher here who spent years with Title I. With all the resources in the world, the school cannot be all the things that the PP listed. Money is not going to solve the problem. It requires a change in priorities.
For example, all this talk about changing school names and transgender issues. Neither of these is going to really help anyone. Yet, we are spending time and resources on them. The FCPS School Board has spent more time on these issues than the budget--or, at least it appears that way.

Yes, it can.

http://hcz.org/our-programs/

So just do that in every school and it will all work out. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Exactly. If we really expected schools to solve all of the problems of poverty, we would provide enough resources to the schools so that they would have enough people for all of those functions, instead of expecting teachers to do everything.

A different teacher here who spent years with Title I. With all the resources in the world, the school cannot be all the things that the PP listed. Money is not going to solve the problem. It requires a change in priorities.
For example, all this talk about changing school names and transgender issues. Neither of these is going to really help anyone. Yet, we are spending time and resources on them. The FCPS School Board has spent more time on these issues than the budget--or, at least it appears that way.

Yes, it can.

http://hcz.org/our-programs/

So just do that in every school and it will all work out. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Yes, exactly. Money would solve the problem, it's just that we don't want to spend what it would take.

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Yes, exactly. Money would solve the problem, it's just that we don't want to spend what it would take.

There's not enough money to solve the problem. Funny, some people talk about how "trickle down" economics doesn't work, but they are convinced that "trickle down" cash does.

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Anonymous wrote:The cutoffs should be hard and fast, with the possible exception of major disabilities.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:The cutoffs should be hard and fast, with the possible exception of major disabilities.

Because every kid of a particular age has exactly the same maturity level as every other kid of that age?

Because all kids have the same abilities and needs?

Because one size can and should fit all?