Racism / Classism on DCurbanmom trolls or true?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

the issue is she assumes all black kids are "unprepared," and that she wants to segregate her kid from the "unprepared" kids, as well as direct resources away from the "unprepared kids." It very much is racist. "I don't have anything against black people -- they are all just so "unprepared"!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP responding to 23:23. I appreciate your long and well written post. I am right with you on the criticism need to do better for all our children.

But what you seem to be saying loud and clear is that you will judge anyone who is white, or who you even think might be white based on an anonymous post, as prejudiced against you. No matter what explanation that person gives, you will judge her by what you think her skin color might be. I can't stand with the sort of bigotry you display.

I hope we both continue to work to improve D.C. schools. I am sad though that your mistrust and judgment means we each will have to work separately, and cannot work together toward common goals.

where the hell do you get that from? you are too much and will move to Virginia as soon as your kid hits K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

the issue is she assumes all black kids are "unprepared," and that she wants to segregate her kid from the "unprepared" kids, as well as direct resources away from the "unprepared kids." It very much is racist. "I don't have anything against black people -- they are all just so "unprepared"!

Where did she say that??? She didn't, it's something you read into her posts because of YOUR bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

the issue is she assumes all black kids are "unprepared," and that she wants to segregate her kid from the "unprepared" kids, as well as direct resources away from the "unprepared kids." It very much is racist. "I don't have anything against black people -- they are all just so "unprepared"!

Where did she say that??? She didn't, it's something you read into her posts because of YOUR bias.

explain my bias, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wilson student SAT scores are higher than Banneker students.

So your argument is worthless.

SAT scores is what you are going to throw out? What about PARCC tests? AP information? Graduation rates?

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/wilson-high-school-4649

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/benjamin-banneker-academy-high-school-4650

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

the issue is she assumes all black kids are "unprepared," and that she wants to segregate her kid from the "unprepared" kids, as well as direct resources away from the "unprepared kids." It very much is racist. "I don't have anything against black people -- they are all just so "unprepared"!

Where did she say that??? She didn't, it's something you read into her posts because of YOUR bias.

explain my bias, please?

Not before you answer my question.

[Anonymous]

NP. I live WOTP, and no, I won't assume that just because you are black. If you send your kid to a WOTP school, I will assume that you either have the means to live here (and thus the education and professional success to get those) or care enough about education to lottery your kid into a good school. I won't make assumptions about your child's preparedness just because of your race. Granted, I'm from Europe, so I haven't been raised with the same racial stereotypes and tensions, but I give my American neighbors the benefit of the doubt that they think similarly.

With all sincerity, thanks for the nice sentiment.

Have you ever walked into a room full of chatting people and noticed they've suddenly all gone quiet? Walked down a street and felt like everyone is staring at you, though no one will make eye contact even when you extend a friendly greeting? How about waited patiently while a store clerk cheerfully offers assistance to everyone but you? Any chance you've had a kid tell your kid to get off the slide because "you don't belong here?"

It's just not a way to live. My parents moved our family to the "good schools" area in another city decades ago. I'm grateful for all that did for me but I'm making other choices for my family. I've lived in DC now for close to 30 years and met and loved people from many different backgrounds. I love it here. But those experiences I described above didn't happen to me in my midwest hometown when I was a kid. They happened in upper NW, all within the last five years - one of them at an open house for a good school. What would it be like for my kid to go there? I judge by my own experiences.

And I'm not judging anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wilson student SAT scores are higher than Banneker students.

So your argument is worthless.

SAT scores is what you are going to throw out? What about PARCC tests? AP information? Graduation rates?

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/wilson-high-school-4649

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/benjamin-banneker-academy-high-school-4650

A poster claimed that white families are racist because they do not send their kids to Banneker.

We will send our kid to Wilson because white kids at Wilson perform better than kids at Banneker. USNews does not have a racial breakdown, which is needed to make the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wilson student SAT scores are higher than Banneker students.

So your argument is worthless.

SAT scores is what you are going to throw out? What about PARCC tests? AP information? Graduation rates?

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/wilson-high-school-4649

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/benjamin-banneker-academy-high-school-4650

A poster claimed that white families are racist because they do not send their kids to Banneker.

We will send our kid to Wilson because white kids at Wilson perform better than kids at Banneker. USNews does not have a racial breakdown, which is needed to make the point.

But you can't compare. There aren't white kids at Banneker. You literally have no way of knowing how they'd do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wilson student SAT scores are higher than Banneker students.

So your argument is worthless.

SAT scores is what you are going to throw out? What about PARCC tests? AP information? Graduation rates?

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/wilson-high-school-4649

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/districts/district-of-columbia-public-schools/benjamin-banneker-academy-high-school-4650

A poster claimed that white families are racist because they do not send their kids to Banneker.

We will send our kid to Wilson because white kids at Wilson perform better than kids at Banneker. USNews does not have a racial breakdown, which is needed to make the point.

No, the argument is not whether Banneker is "the best." It is whether it is a good school with "prepared" students and an advanced curriculum. Which it is. But white people don't consider it an option because it is too black -- instead they will send their kids to charters with worse or equivalent scores like Basis and Latin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

the issue is she assumes all black kids are "unprepared," and that she wants to segregate her kid from the "unprepared" kids, as well as direct resources away from the "unprepared kids." It very much is racist. "I don't have anything against black people -- they are all just so "unprepared"!

Where did she say that??? She didn't, it's something you read into her posts because of YOUR bias.

explain my bias, please?

Not before you answer my question.

not playing your stupid games. just move to Virginia and self-segregate already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

the issue is she assumes all black kids are "unprepared," and that she wants to segregate her kid from the "unprepared" kids, as well as direct resources away from the "unprepared kids." It very much is racist. "I don't have anything against black people -- they are all just so "unprepared"!

Where did she say that??? She didn't, it's something you read into her posts because of YOUR bias.

explain my bias, please?

Not before you answer my question.

not playing your stupid games. just move to Virginia and self-segregate already.

I'm not playing games, I'm trying to get you to offer a substantiated argument. As you demonstrate, your bias is to assume that every white person who agrees with the PP's views of wanting mostly "prepared" kids in their kid's class thinks that ALL black kids are unprepared and therefore doesn't want any racial diversity in their kid's school and needs to move to Virginia. That's your racist bias right there. You still haven't pointed out where anyone actually said that black kids per se are unprepared. All I've seen is YOU arguing that talking about "unprepared" kids equals talking about black kids because of the DC demographics. If that were indeed the case, it still doesn't make the PPs racist, because they are not taking issue with the unprepared kids' race, but with their unpreparedness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to claim that "unprepared students" is really some code word for poor and brown children, then please provide me the correct words to describe students who are unprepared.

We're talking about DC hon. We KNOW you are referring to black kids.

You know? You sound like a racist. Try opening your mind for once, you bigot.

um what? so you expect me to think you are NOT referring to black kids when you say "unprepares"?

The fact that "unpreparedness" and race tend to be correlated in DC and the kids the PP has in mind are therefore likely to be black doesn't make her a racist. She is not concerned about having these kids in her kid's class BECAUSE of their race, which is the only thing that would make her a racist.

That's really the fundamental logical error in all of these posts.

the issue is she assumes all black kids are "unprepared," and that she wants to segregate her kid from the "unprepared" kids, as well as direct resources away from the "unprepared kids." It very much is racist. "I don't have anything against black people -- they are all just so "unprepared"!

Where did she say that??? She didn't, it's something you read into her posts because of YOUR bias.

explain my bias, please?

Not before you answer my question.

not playing your stupid games. just move to Virginia and self-segregate already.

I'm not playing games, I'm trying to get you to offer a substantiated argument. As you demonstrate, your bias is to assume that every white person who agrees with the PP's views of wanting mostly "prepared" kids in their kid's class thinks that ALL black kids are unprepared and therefore doesn't want any racial diversity in their kid's school and needs to move to Virginia. That's your racist bias right there. You still haven't pointed out where anyone actually said that black kids per se are unprepared. All I've seen is YOU arguing that talking about "unprepared" kids equals talking about black kids because of the DC demographics. If that were indeed the case, it still doesn't make the PPs racist, because they are not taking issue with the unprepared kids' race, but with their unpreparedness.

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