Will daughters be drafted?

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Anonymous wrote:So where would you move if a draft is implemented?

Would US territories be part of a draft? Puerto Rico? St. Thomas?

There will be no draft. There are enough people who did nothing in high school or were born into poverty and don't have any options so they sign up for a government job called the military.

What an ignorant generalization.

Tell me how it isn't so. Who, officers and a small minority aside, serves in the US military? What is the demographic - not the outliers - what is the predominant demographic? Prove to me that I'm ignorant.

Well, you have to basically pass an IQ test to get into the military, so that will weed out a lot of the really stupid folks. It's been estimated based on AFQT scores that the average IQ for enlisted is around 105; or better than 65% of the people in the US. Enlisted in the military aren't the dregs of society you seem to think they are; they're just average folks (above average actually) that happen to want to serve their country.

I didn't say anything about the intelligence of enlisted military. I just contend that for most people who sign up the military it is a pragmatic choice and the best option. And for the last 50 years the country has not had to use the draft because there have been enough enlistees to cover demand. Those with the money, high school grades or aptitude for academics attend college instead of choosing the military. Don't they? So I do think that life circumstances and life choices, i.e. poverty/poor economic prospects and poor high school performance/poor economic prospects, drive individuals into the military. So the whole argument about registering for the draft is really a red herring. And, for the most part, I don't see people here objecting to women registering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since we haven't had a draft in 40 years - doubt we'd start now. But, yes, theoretically, there is no reason why girls shouldn't sign up for selective service. Although perhaps the child-bearing aspect of sending young girls off to fight and then not having anyone home to continue the species - but then I read WAY to many dystopic/sci-fi books.

Don’t quite understand your thinking. It takes two to continue the species - female AND male.

And you feel like they have the same roles in that endeavor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So where would you move if a draft is implemented?

Would US territories be part of a draft? Puerto Rico? St. Thomas?

There will be no draft. There are enough people who did nothing in high school or were born into poverty and don't have any options so they sign up for a government job called the military.

Hmmm.....military family blowing you kisses xo

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt they would change the policy. We're a huge country and we have more than enough men on the draft rolls currently to field a very large force. They'd also have to think about what happens if they draft both the mom and dad to young children? Previously just the dad got drafted.

They damn well should. Women want all of the same rights and opportunities in the military, then they damn well need to assume the same risks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where would you move if a draft is implemented?

Would US territories be part of a draft? Puerto Rico? St. Thomas?

There will be no draft. There are enough people who did nothing in high school or were born into poverty and don't have any options so they sign up for a government job called the military.

What an ignorant generalization.

Tell me how it isn't so. Who, officers and a small minority aside, serves in the US military? What is the demographic - not the outliers - what is the predominant demographic? Prove to me that I'm ignorant.

Well, you have to basically pass an IQ test to get into the military, so that will weed out a lot of the really stupid folks. It's been estimated based on AFQT scores that the average IQ for enlisted is around 105; or better than 65% of the people in the US. Enlisted in the military aren't the dregs of society you seem to think they are; they're just average folks (above average actually) that happen to want to serve their country.

Today's military is nothing like your dad's military of the '60s, '70s or '80s... it's very much technology driven and if you don't have the intelligence, aptitude or skills you will likely be weeded out, they don't need you or want you.

As for women, that can actually be an advantage. Female Kurd Peshmerga fighers have been kicking ass because the ISIS guys they are fighting against are totally freaked out over the notion of killing women. It's even more effective than smearing bullets down with pig grease.

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Anonymous wrote:Woman have already been in combat roles. As Tammy Duckworth said, she didn't lose her legs in a bar fight.

The difference is that now they get the medals and career bump that comes with the role.

I love her. I watched about 7 hours of Benghazi hearings

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Anonymous wrote:Woman have already been in combat roles. As Tammy Duckworth said, she didn't lose her legs in a bar fight.

The difference is that now they get the medals and career bump that comes with the role.

I love her. I watched about 7 hours of Benghazi hearings last month, and she was fantastic. She came with real questions, very policy detailed. Loved how she turned the Republicans' political farce into an opportunity to actually get something done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt they would change the policy. We're a huge country and we have more than enough men on the draft rolls currently to field a very large force. They'd also have to think about what happens if they draft both the mom and dad to young children? Previously just the dad got drafted.

They damn well should. Women want all of the same rights and opportunities in the military, then they damn well need to assume the same risks.

They already do, they're just not getting the medals and promotions that come with being able to check that box.

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Anonymous wrote:If women can serve in the Israeli army, and both genders are required to do so, American women can participate in the selective service. This is called true equality.

This argument is ridiculous. Only a few people who have posted here suggest that women shouldn't register. Only 13.4% of the American male population has ever served in the military. So much for your chest thumping.

Yes. Most Americans currently don't serve in the military. But the existence of the selective service at all means the remotest possibility that he draft can be reinstated, even if it is very unlikely. If young men always have their possibility hanging over heir heads, equality for women and the opening of all combat roles (which was pushed by feminists mind you) means women now have to contribute in the unlikely possibility of the draft. It is symbolic.

I believe in a war effort there will be plenty for young women to do. Dig trenches, collect intelligence data, patrol
Borders, distribute goods in logistics. It's not just about strength, and that is true equality. So no I am not chest thumping.

For the poster that was rambling about caring for elderly and whatever, he selective service impacts people from ages 18 to 30, we will have many other older people capable of carting out those roles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So where would you move if a draft is implemented?

Would US territories be part of a draft? Puerto Rico? St. Thomas?

There will be no draft. There are enough people who did nothing in high school or were born into poverty and don't have any options so they sign up for a government job called the military.

What an ignorant generalization.

Tell me how it isn't so. Who, officers and a small minority aside, serves in the US military? What is the demographic - not the outliers - what is the predominant demographic? Prove to me that I'm ignorant.

Well, you have to basically pass an IQ test to get into the military, so that will weed out a lot of the really stupid folks. It's been estimated based on AFQT scores that the average IQ for enlisted is around 105; or better than 65% of the people in the US. Enlisted in the military aren't the dregs of society you seem to think they are; they're just average folks (above average actually) that happen to want to serve their country.

I didn't say anything about the intelligence of enlisted military. I just contend that for most people who sign up the military it is a pragmatic choice and the best option. And for the last 50 years the country has not had to use the draft because there have been enough enlistees to cover demand. Those with the money, high school grades or aptitude for academics attend college instead of choosing the military. Don't they? So I do think that life circumstances and life choices, i.e. poverty/poor economic prospects and poor high school performance/poor economic prospects, drive individuals into the military. So the whole argument about registering for the draft is really a red herring. And, for the most part, I don't see people here objecting to women registering.

Moron: plenty of college educated people choose military careers. See, e,g, ROTC. And thanks to Jim Webb, the new GI Bill basically makes college free (or greatly reduced in cost) for those who meet the service criteria. For some, the military is a great way out of dire circumstances that the vast majority of the pampered people on this board will never know. But it reaches beyond that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where would you move if a draft is implemented?

Would US territories be part of a draft? Puerto Rico? St. Thomas?

There will be no draft. There are enough people who did nothing in high school or were born into poverty and don't have any options so they sign up for a government job called the military.

What an ignorant generalization.

Tell me how it isn't so. Who, officers and a small minority aside, serves in the US military? What is the demographic - not the outliers - what is the predominant demographic? Prove to me that I'm ignorant.

Well, you have to basically pass an IQ test to get into the military, so that will weed out a lot of the really stupid folks. It's been estimated based on AFQT scores that the average IQ for enlisted is around 105; or better than 65% of the people in the US. Enlisted in the military aren't the dregs of society you seem to think they are; they're just average folks (above average actually) that happen to want to serve their country.

I didn't say anything about the intelligence of enlisted military. I just contend that for most people who sign up the military it is a pragmatic choice and the best option. And for the last 50 years the country has not had to use the draft because there have been enough enlistees to cover demand. Those with the money, high school grades or aptitude for academics attend college instead of choosing the military. Don't they? So I do think that life circumstances and life choices, i.e. poverty/poor economic prospects and poor high school performance/poor economic prospects, drive individuals into the military. So the whole argument about registering for the draft is really a red herring. And, for the most part, I don't see people here objecting to women registering.

And "most people...pragmatic choice...not academically inclined" is where you're generalizing and underestimating the intelligence, work ethic, self discipline, ability and responsibility of a large group of good people who work their tails off. The military offers a wide range of interesting jobs, great training and opportunities. There are lots of good reasons people might choose to enter. Your claim that it's because of a lack of options is insulting to a vast majority of enlisted troops.

[Anonymous]

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Since we haven't had a draft in 40 years - doubt we'd start now. But, yes, theoretically, there is no reason why girls shouldn't sign up for selective service. Although perhaps the child-bearing aspect of sending young girls off to fight and then not having anyone home to continue the species - but then I read WAY to many dystopic/sci-fi books.


Don’t quite understand your thinking. It takes two to continue the species - female AND male.


And you feel like they have the same roles in that endeavor?

We are talking about the U.S.....so this continuing the species thing is a bit rich.

[Anonymous]

Liudmyla Mykhailivna Pavlychenko Credited with 309 kills, she is regarded as the most successful female sniper in history

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hope so and its about time.

+1000

I mean, can anyone think of a reason why not??!?

Yeah

I don't want to lose my daughter to a senseless death, nor do I want her to be around men who have no respect for humanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liudmyla Mykhailivna Pavlychenko Credited with 309 kills, she is regarded as the most successful female sniper in history

which war?