Fairfax County School Board Votes to Teach 7th Graders about 'Gender Identy'

[Anonymous]

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... who am I (or you) to tell someone what gender they feel inside, and truly, why would I care to do so?

I am in the business of live and let live.

You are in the business of being up in people's lives, which is funny since the right wing is usually of the mindset of "keep the government out of it" (unless it offends your delicate sensibilities, I suppose.)



Who cares what someone "feels inside?" Feelings come and go like the summer wind.

No, I am in the business of protecting my children and others from this kind of distorted mental and emotional abuse being shoved at them from all directions from an idiotic society that impresses itself by posting rainbow flags on a facebook page.

I care how someone feels inside. I find it difficult to believe that you don't understand the damage that 'feelings' can cause. Regardless of where you stand on this particular issue, I think we can all agree that bullying is damage. The research well documents the long term adverse affect of bullying and it's all about the feelings that result from it. There is a history of suicide in my family and I'm well acquainted with how negative feelings can linger and damage a person. I've got kids with special needs and see first hand how the negative comments of others cause feelings that are damaging to my kids. These comments are about things my kids can't help and are not their fault. There's also no DNA test for their disorders.

I don't understand how learning about homosexual/transgender people would result in suffering or abuse in the person learning. My kids have benefitted from their peers being more aware and more understanding of their disorders. My kids don't have discipline issues but their differences are noticeabe. Their classmates have been kinder and more supportive when my kids have been bullied or ridiculed. My youngest (rising 4th grader), in particular, has benefitted from this increased support. Up until 3rd grade, he didn't have the support he's got now. He hated school, was isolated and had a very negative outlook. All assessments indicated he was at high risk of developing depression. Given our family history, I have no doubt he'd be at increased risk of suicide.

Given a choice, I can't imagine anyone choosing to be homosexual or transgender - just like I can't imagine choosing to have the disorders my kids have. I can, though, easily imagine how damaging the lack of support and understanding can be. I see no damage caused by being homosexual or transgender or learning about it. I can see great benefit to the homosexual/transgender by having their feelings validated.

Four simple words: it's all a lie.

But you don't care about that part, do you ?

PP, you are a hateful, awful human being. I don't understand how people like you live with yourselves.

Oh, please. Get off your high horse. Exactly what makes this "hateful" and "awful?" We get that it doesn't perfectly fit the lock-step agenda of the left, but have you totally lost the ability to think for yourself?

[Anonymous]

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40 years ago, when I was in school, I was bullied because I was Jewish. It is not different. Maybe I chose to be Jewish, but it it is my ethnicity. I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Where was this?

FWIW, we had bomb threats at my school almost daily when I was a teen. This was in the '60's. They stopped after the administration extended the school day to make up the time.......who do you think was making those threats? Remember, this was before caller id.

Florida pan handle. Klan was certainly involved, given the cross burnings....

[Anonymous]

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

Actually, my rationality is that, if your actions do not impact me, and you are not hurting anyone, you should be free to be whatever. An LGBT person does not impact me, and does not harm anyone. They should be accepted.

As a jew, me being jewish does not impact you and does not hurt anyone....it should be no problem (and is not today).

In 1975, people took me being jewish as something that had to be fixed....something that is wrong. The bible says Christ is the savior, how can you believe otherwise? Yet, my bible did not say that.

Today, 2015, you are saying LBGT are not natural, and need to be fixed. That something is wrong. The bible says that.

See the parallelism?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP and atheist here. Transgender is a mental disorder, an abnormality. Whether or not you a "believer". I'm not and even I can see this as plain as day.

Yes, but it exists and there is no known treatment shown to work besides therapy and transitioning. So mental disorder or not, there is no reason not to teach people about it and about how to be a decent human being to people dealing with it.

not if you believe it's a non-priority and a waste of money. Not sure why tax dollars would go towards this fake priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

Actually, my rationality is that, if your actions do not impact me, and you are not hurting anyone, you should be free to be whatever. An LGBT person does not impact me, and does not harm anyone. They should be accepted.

As a jew, me being jewish does not impact you and does not hurt anyone....it should be no problem (and is not today).

In 1975, people took me being jewish as something that had to be fixed....something that is wrong. The bible says Christ is the savior, how can you believe otherwise? Yet, my bible did not say that.

Today, 2015, you are saying LBGT are not natural, and need to be fixed. That something is wrong. The bible says that.

See the parallelism?

But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

Actually, my rationality is that, if your actions do not impact me, and you are not hurting anyone, you should be free to be whatever. An LGBT person does not impact me, and does not harm anyone. They should be accepted.

As a jew, me being jewish does not impact you and does not hurt anyone....it should be no problem (and is not today).

In 1975, people took me being jewish as something that had to be fixed....something that is wrong. The bible says Christ is the savior, how can you believe otherwise? Yet, my bible did not say that.

Today, 2015, you are saying LBGT are not natural, and need to be fixed. That something is wrong. The bible says that.

See the parallelism?

But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

And this is why I call you a fucktard bigot. Send your kid to the christian school, or home school . YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIETY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

Actually, my rationality is that, if your actions do not impact me, and you are not hurting anyone, you should be free to be whatever. An LGBT person does not impact me, and does not harm anyone. They should be accepted.

As a jew, me being jewish does not impact you and does not hurt anyone....it should be no problem (and is not today).

In 1975, people took me being jewish as something that had to be fixed....something that is wrong. The bible says Christ is the savior, how can you believe otherwise? Yet, my bible did not say that.

Today, 2015, you are saying LBGT are not natural, and need to be fixed. That something is wrong. The bible says that.

See the parallelism?

But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

This x 1 million. Also, I doubt the "Jewish is the same as transgender" poster is actually Jewish. He/she is a trans mental patient desperate to find a way to make trans sound legitimate. Jews and Christiams aren't mentally ill, trans people are. Major difference!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

Actually, my rationality is that, if your actions do not impact me, and you are not hurting anyone, you should be free to be whatever. An LGBT person does not impact me, and does not harm anyone. They should be accepted.

As a jew, me being jewish does not impact you and does not hurt anyone....it should be no problem (and is not today).

In 1975, people took me being jewish as something that had to be fixed....something that is wrong. The bible says Christ is the savior, how can you believe otherwise? Yet, my bible did not say that.

Today, 2015, you are saying LBGT are not natural, and need to be fixed. That something is wrong. The bible says that.

See the parallelism?

But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

This x 1 million. Also, I doubt the "Jewish is the same as transgender" poster is actually Jewish. He/she is a trans mental patient desperate to find a way to make trans sound legitimate. Jews and Christiams aren't mentally ill, trans people are. Major difference!

+ 1. And then some.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Is this a troll?

Nope. Not a troll. OP is legit.

School board did this the first Wednesday of summer vacation.

The vote in June was the culmination of several months of public comments. It was a topic throughout the spring. It was not spring at the last moment. There were several periods for public comment. I am sorry if you were not paying attention.

Oh, I'm sure they were paying attention, they just don't like the outcome and are throwing a tantrum like spoiled children everywhere do when don't get what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

Actually, my rationality is that, if your actions do not impact me, and you are not hurting anyone, you should be free to be whatever. An LGBT person does not impact me, and does not harm anyone. They should be accepted.

As a jew, me being jewish does not impact you and does not hurt anyone....it should be no problem (and is not today).

In 1975, people took me being jewish as something that had to be fixed....something that is wrong. The bible says Christ is the savior, how can you believe otherwise? Yet, my bible did not say that.

Today, 2015, you are saying LBGT are not natural, and need to be fixed. That something is wrong. The bible says that.

See the parallelism?

But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

And this is why I call you a fucktard bigot. Send your kid to the christian school, or home school . YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIETY.

No. People like me, and others who are willing to stand up to this nonsense, are the only HOPE for society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

But these actions ALSO impact ME, and they impact MY kids. I DO want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day RATIONAL APPROACH TO REAL LIFE. What part of that don't YOU understand?

So go pound sand.

[Anonymous]

But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

11:17 here. Perhaps you missed my earlier response (see below). I'm interested in hearing how learning about homosexuality/transgender impacts you or your kids. I understand that you don't find it normal and believe that it's PC BS. What I don't understand is how it impacts you. I don't believe that it impacts me or my kids in any way other. Where's the harm?

I'm the PP you're responding to. I'm not sure which part you think is a lie. When someone tells me they believe or feel a certain way, unless I have been given a reason to doubt that person's veracity, I believe them. Of course, they could be lying, it could be a phase. Whatever their reason for asserting they're homosexual/transgender, it has no impact on me or my family. If that's how someone identifies, let them. I can't imagine deliberately taking action that diminishes someone's feelings and self worth. I've seen it done to my kids and I wouldn't wish that on anyone's child - no matter how old.