Murch moving to lafayette

Anonymous
The underground lot has something like 40 spots. 40 left hand turns in the morning will make a huge impact on the morning traffic patterns.
Anonymous
There is traffic study underway or soon to be underway. Those with concerns can take them to the parties doing the study. Perhaps only right-hand turns will be allowed during morning rush hour.

I would not mind slowing the traffic on Reno in the morning. Perhaps more drivers would switch to Connecticut or Wisconsin or at least be forced to slow down. Perhaps another Murch student riding her bike in a crosswalk on her way to school wouldn't be knocked down by another hit and run driver in a hurry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The underground lot has something like 40 spots. 40 left hand turns in the morning will make a huge impact on the morning traffic patterns.


I meant will *not make a huge impact!
Anonymous
Not only is no one suggesting a traffic calming device but the PP posted all commuter routes with one thing in common that Reno Rd. doesn't have-- multiple lanes in each direction. Reno is one lane in each direction all the time. It is also a strictly residential road without a single commercial building the entire length. Think of that. Zero commerce on it. Please don't compare it to any of the other roads. It is more akin to C Street NE but even that has parking and commercial buildings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not only is no one suggesting a traffic calming device but the PP posted all commuter routes with one thing in common that Reno Rd. doesn't have-- multiple lanes in each direction. Reno is one lane in each direction all the time. It is also a strictly residential road without a single commercial building the entire length. Think of that. Zero commerce on it. Please don't compare it to any of the other roads. It is more akin to C Street NE but even that has parking and commercial buildings.


Exactly. Reno is not a commuter street -- it is one-lane-per-direction commuter short cut through entirely residential neighborhoods with the pedestrian traffic of 10+ schools and nursery schools (and 6 major playgrounds) crossing it during rush hour. Multiple stretches of it have 15 mph school zone speed limits, school crossing guards, etc., no part of it exceeds 25 mph. Why anyone would use this as their "fast" road to work -- and complain that the safety of the neighborhood school children is ruining their commuting time -- is beyond reason.

Too many children have been hit by cars along this route. If you are in a hurry, choose another road.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Not only is no one suggesting a traffic calming device but the PP posted all commuter routes with one thing in common that Reno Rd. doesn't have-- multiple lanes in each direction. Reno is one lane in each direction all the time. It is also a strictly residential road without a single commercial building the entire length. Think of that. Zero commerce on it. Please don't compare it to any of the other roads. It is more akin to C Street NE but even that has parking and commercial buildings.


Exactly. Reno is not a commuter street -- it is one-lane-per-direction commuter short cut through entirely residential neighborhoods with the pedestrian traffic of 10+ schools and nursery schools (and 6 major playgrounds) crossing it during rush hour. Multiple stretches of it have 15 mph school zone speed limits, school crossing guards, etc., no part of it exceeds 25 mph. Why anyone would use this as their "fast" road to work -- and complain that the safety of the neighborhood school children is ruining their commuting time -- is beyond reason.

Too many children have been hit by cars along this route. If you are in a hurry, choose another road.


As someone who bikes or walks on Reno to Murch most school days it's amazing to see the number of drivers on their phones, disregarding pedestrians in crosswalks and "blocking the box" at Nebraska. In reference to the previous poster, bikes are allowed on sidewalks outside of the city center. There is no way I would allow my child to ride on the road with the drivers around here. Reno is way too narrow.

I for one think that there should be no on street parking on Wisconsin Avenue to allow for dedicated travel and cycle lanes and reduce the volume on the residential streets. It's astonishing to see a 4 lane road with on street parking. I grew up near Route 1 aka the Post Road in Connecticut and there was certainly no on street parking.

3 pedestrians have been struck on Wisconsin Avenue in less than 4 weeks with two fatalities- something needs to change.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not only is no one suggesting a traffic calming device but the PP posted all commuter routes with one thing in common that Reno Rd. doesn't have-- multiple lanes in each direction. Reno is one lane in each direction all the time. It is also a strictly residential road without a single commercial building the entire length. Think of that. Zero commerce on it. Please don't compare it to any of the other roads. It is more akin to C Street NE but even that has parking and commercial buildings.


Exactly. Reno is not a commuter street -- it is one-lane-per-direction commuter short cut through entirely residential neighborhoods with the pedestrian traffic of 10+ schools and nursery schools (and 6 major playgrounds) crossing it during rush hour. Multiple stretches of it have 15 mph school zone speed limits, school crossing guards, etc., no part of it exceeds 25 mph. Why anyone would use this as their "fast" road to work -- and complain that the safety of the neighborhood school children is ruining their commuting time -- is beyond reason.

Too many children have been hit by cars along this route. If you are in a hurry, choose another road.


As someone who bikes or walks on Reno to Murch most school days it's amazing to see the number of drivers on their phones, disregarding pedestrians in crosswalks and "blocking the box" at Nebraska. In reference to the previous poster, bikes are allowed on sidewalks outside of the city center. There is no way I would allow my child to ride on the road with the drivers around here. Reno is way too narrow.

I for one think that there should be no on street parking on Wisconsin Avenue to allow for dedicated travel and cycle lanes and reduce the volume on the residential streets. It's astonishing to see a 4 lane road with on street parking. I grew up near Route 1 aka the Post Road in Connecticut and there was certainly no on street parking.

3 pedestrians have been struck on Wisconsin Avenue in less than 4 weeks with two fatalities- something needs to change.


Frequent bad accidents on Reno/Nebraska and Reno/Military. Usually drivers running red lights
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Anonymous wrote:No, the lot entrance is off Reno. The cafeteria is at Davenport and 36th. There is a service entrance there but not the lot (not that there would be food contamination from the lag regardless).


booooo. Really, a new curb cut off of Reno, so three intersections within 100 yards of each other? (Elliott, Davenport and New Driveway)

Time to alert and organize the broader community, if so.


The folks from the neighborhood who came to the presentation didn't seem concerned. I think they're pleased that the garage traffic will be kept on a busy road rather than on the side streets, which get so congested with pick-up/drop-off traffic.

It makes a lot of sense to me.


The broader community supports the Reno curb cut. Reno is a commuter route and most would like to see the traffic slowed in that section which is highly traveled by kids going to Murch, Deal and Wilson. If it moves commuters to a different route even better. There will also be a curb cut on 36th aligning with the curb cuts for the apartment building there. Really, in the grand scheme of things the curb cuts were probably the best thought out.



I have bad news for you. Wisconsin, Connecticut, Georgia, 16th, North Capitol, Benning, the 14th St. Bridge, Memorial Bridge, and Rock Creek Pkwy are also commuter routes. Residents nearby would love to see traffic calming. Murch/Lafayette/Deal/Wilson combined are not powerful enough to impact the commuter routes. Try though - that will be fun to watch.


It already has. The curb cut and left turning vehicles are coming. Plus construction for 2 straight years. There goes your commuter route. You can thank Murch for that.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Not only is no one suggesting a traffic calming device but the PP posted all commuter routes with one thing in common that Reno Rd. doesn't have-- multiple lanes in each direction. Reno is one lane in each direction all the time. It is also a strictly residential road without a single commercial building the entire length. Think of that. Zero commerce on it. Please don't compare it to any of the other roads. It is more akin to C Street NE but even that has parking and commercial buildings.


Exactly. Reno is not a commuter street -- it is one-lane-per-direction commuter short cut through entirely residential neighborhoods with the pedestrian traffic of 10+ schools and nursery schools (and 6 major playgrounds) crossing it during rush hour. Multiple stretches of it have 15 mph school zone speed limits, school crossing guards, etc., no part of it exceeds 25 mph. Why anyone would use this as their "fast" road to work -- and complain that the safety of the neighborhood school children is ruining their commuting time -- is beyond reason.

Too many children have been hit by cars along this route. If you are in a hurry, choose another road.




Nobody who is in a hurry is looking to DCUM for commuting shortcuts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not only is no one suggesting a traffic calming device but the PP posted all commuter routes with one thing in common that Reno Rd. doesn't have-- multiple lanes in each direction. Reno is one lane in each direction all the time. It is also a strictly residential road without a single commercial building the entire length. Think of that. Zero commerce on it. Please don't compare it to any of the other roads. It is more akin to C Street NE but even that has parking and commercial buildings.


Exactly. Reno is not a commuter street -- it is one-lane-per-direction commuter short cut through entirely residential neighborhoods with the pedestrian traffic of 10+ schools and nursery schools (and 6 major playgrounds) crossing it during rush hour. Multiple stretches of it have 15 mph school zone speed limits, school crossing guards, etc., no part of it exceeds 25 mph. Why anyone would use this as their "fast" road to work -- and complain that the safety of the neighborhood school children is ruining their commuting time -- is beyond reason.

Too many children have been hit by cars along this route. If you are in a hurry, choose another road.




If you want your child to be able to bike safely in a commuter lane, advocate for more commuter lanes. Advocate for so much road that traffic can be calm by its own accord. It's difficult to have sympathy for the people who shut down Klingle Road and now want to "calm" Reno Road. Different commuting patterns, but it's still the same problem. You made your bed, you know what to do.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not only is no one suggesting a traffic calming device but the PP posted all commuter routes with one thing in common that Reno Rd. doesn't have-- multiple lanes in each direction. Reno is one lane in each direction all the time. It is also a strictly residential road without a single commercial building the entire length. Think of that. Zero commerce on it. Please don't compare it to any of the other roads. It is more akin to C Street NE but even that has parking and commercial buildings.


Exactly. Reno is not a commuter street -- it is one-lane-per-direction commuter short cut through entirely residential neighborhoods with the pedestrian traffic of 10+ schools and nursery schools (and 6 major playgrounds) crossing it during rush hour. Multiple stretches of it have 15 mph school zone speed limits, school crossing guards, etc., no part of it exceeds 25 mph. Why anyone would use this as their "fast" road to work -- and complain that the safety of the neighborhood school children is ruining their commuting time -- is beyond reason.

Too many children have been hit by cars along this route. If you are in a hurry, choose another road.




If you want your child to be able to bike safely in a commuter lane, advocate for more commuter lanes. Advocate for so much road that traffic can be calm by its own accord. It's difficult to have sympathy for the people who shut down Klingle Road and now want to "calm" Reno Road. Different commuting patterns, but it's still the same problem. You made your bed, you know what to do.


You must be a suburban commuter. Not the same people, issue, area or even road direction! That is like comparing the speed humps on Newark to this stretch of Reno. Odd to say the least. It isn't a calming device or closing a road. It is a massive construction project that will span 2 years.
Anonymous
Every time I see the words "underground parking lot" associated with a public school in a freaking CITY, I twitch.

You people are your cars. Advocate for school bus routes, public bus routes that cater to your children and get off your lazy duffs and use them.
Anonymous
Agree, why on EARTH spend that much money on parking.

What is the cost for each parking spot in this underground garage??
Anonymous
Wouldn't the school rather spend on science labs than underground parking?
Anonymous
The parking at Murch is not for students or parents, but for faculty and staff. On a lot the size of the Murch lot, it makes sense to build it underground, rather than above ground, so as to maximize the green space available for the 600+ students.

As Murch is a neighborhood school, many students are able to walk, ride, bikes, etc. Having a special bus route would be nice but probably of limited utility.
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