Murch moving to lafayette

[Anonymous]

^^agree with PP. You need to be able to get your point across in three short paragraphs, accompanied by some bullet points.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, the lot entrance is off Reno. The cafeteria is at Davenport and 36th. There is a service entrance there but not the lot (not that there would be food contamination from the lag regardless).

booooo. Really, a new curb cut off of Reno, so three intersections within 100 yards of each other? (Elliott, Davenport and New Driveway)

Time to alert and organize the broader community, if so.

The folks from the neighborhood who came to the presentation didn't seem concerned. I think they're pleased that the garage traffic will be kept on a busy road rather than on the side streets, which get so congested with pick-up/drop-off traffic.

It makes a lot of sense to me.

The broader community supports the Reno curb cut. Reno is a commuter route and most would like to see the traffic slowed in that section which is highly traveled by kids going to Murch, Deal and Wilson. If it moves commuters to a different route even better. There will also be a curb cut on 36th aligning with the curb cuts for the apartment building there. Really, in the grand scheme of things the curb cuts were probably the best thought out.

[Anonymous]

What is the actual design change at Lafayette?

[Anonymous]

From what I can tell from reading the letter, they've scaled back the early childcare wing which also includes art, music and the aftercare program. They replaced the original construction manager. I'm worried about further cuts and how it will impact the final design and whether there will be a delay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the actual design change at Lafayette?

This is a very good question which probably would get at the heart of the matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Neighbors who buy next to a school sound ridiculous when they whine about a curb cut.

Just think critically for 8 seconds. Everybody who uses Reno Rd. in the morning -- and that is a shitload of people from all over Maryland and DC, getting to work and a variety of schools, not just Murch -- has a stake in the cluster$*#% that could happen with a new class of left-hand turners into a new garage off Reno. And/or an all-new traffic light 25 feet away from the Davenport light. If you know anything at all about DCDOT traffic "planning", you can be sure those two lights 25 feet apart will never, ever be synchronized.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbors who buy next to a school sound ridiculous when they whine about a curb cut.

Just think critically for 8 seconds. Everybody who uses Reno Rd. in the morning -- and that is a shitload of people from all over Maryland and DC, getting to work and a variety of schools, not just Murch -- has a stake in the cluster$*#% that could happen with a new class of left-hand turners into a new garage off Reno. And/or an all-new traffic light 25 feet away from the Davenport light. If you know anything at all about DCDOT traffic "planning", you can be sure those two lights 25 feet apart will never, ever be synchronized.

Then don't drive.

[Anonymous]

Mitch desparstely needs to be modernized. If it causes traffic problems during construction, so be it. For far less important projects we deal with traffic and hellacious commutes. There will be no perfect solution.

[Anonymous]

I believe this refers to the permanent entrance to the proposed new underground parking for Murch rather than a temporary construction entrance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Neighbors who buy next to a school sound ridiculous when they whine about a curb cut.

Just think critically for 8 seconds. Everybody who uses Reno Rd. in the morning -- and that is a shitload of people from all over Maryland and DC, getting to work and a variety of schools, not just Murch -- has a stake in the cluster$*#% that could happen with a new class of left-hand turners into a new garage off Reno. And/or an all-new traffic light 25 feet away from the Davenport light. If you know anything at all about DCDOT traffic "planning", you can be sure those two lights 25 feet apart will never, ever be synchronized.

Then don't drive.

Haha smug (probably) millennial and GGW sycophant. I commute by bike most days and so does my tween son, who rides past Murch to a different school down the road.

Cyclists who obey the law will also be caught up in this looming congestion quagmire. Pedestrians, of which I am also one, smug PP, bear the consequences of drivers who unleash their frustration after sitting thorough 3 traffic lights in one block. The Md commuters especially love to blow through lights and challenge pedestrians in crosswalks in that exact area (nebraska, chevy chase parkway, Fessenden especially).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Neighbors who buy next to a school sound ridiculous when they whine about a curb cut.

Just think critically for 8 seconds. Everybody who uses Reno Rd. in the morning -- and that is a shitload of people from all over Maryland and DC, getting to work and a variety of schools, not just Murch -- has a stake in the cluster$*#% that could happen with a new class of left-hand turners into a new garage off Reno. And/or an all-new traffic light 25 feet away from the Davenport light. If you know anything at all about DCDOT traffic "planning", you can be sure those two lights 25 feet apart will never, ever be synchronized.

Then don't drive.

Haha smug (probably) millennial and GGW sycophant. I commute by bike most days and so does my tween son, who rides past Murch to a different school down the road.

Cyclists who obey the law will also be caught up in this looming congestion quagmire. Pedestrians, of which I am also one, smug PP, bear the consequences of drivers who unleash their frustration after sitting thorough 3 traffic lights in one block. The Md commuters especially love to blow through lights and challenge pedestrians in crosswalks in that exact area (nebraska, chevy chase parkway, Fessenden especially).

Not the PP but wow. Clearly you have some anger issues to work on. There isn't a proposal to add an additional light in. The two lights (Nebraska and Davenport) would be able to handle the traffic flow but a traffic study is being done. As a bike/pedestrian commuter down Reno you know how crazy the traffic can be and how great the crossing guards are-- especially the one at Davenport who should run the training program for the city. As you may already know, plenty of left turns are already happening for drop off each morning in that area. The good news is the teachers arrive earlier than students so it really would be everyone arriving at once and all trying to take lefts off of Reno.

I am sure you have already tried this but if not 36th is a much quieter street and runs parallel to Reno. I would never allow my child to ride a bike along Reno during rush hour. 36th is just one block away and much safer for children (and perhaps will lessen your anger).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Neighbors who buy next to a school sound ridiculous when they whine about a curb cut.

Just think critically for 8 seconds. Everybody who uses Reno Rd. in the morning -- and that is a shitload of people from all over Maryland and DC, getting to work and a variety of schools, not just Murch -- has a stake in the cluster$*#% that could happen with a new class of left-hand turners into a new garage off Reno. And/or an all-new traffic light 25 feet away from the Davenport light. If you know anything at all about DCDOT traffic "planning", you can be sure those two lights 25 feet apart will never, ever be synchronized.

Then don't drive.

Haha smug (probably) millennial and GGW sycophant. I commute by bike most days and so does my tween son, who rides past Murch to a different school down the road.

Cyclists who obey the law will also be caught up in this looming congestion quagmire. Pedestrians, of which I am also one, smug PP, bear the consequences of drivers who unleash their frustration after sitting thorough 3 traffic lights in one block. The Md commuters especially love to blow through lights and challenge pedestrians in crosswalks in that exact area (nebraska, chevy chase parkway, Fessenden especially).

Not the PP but wow. Clearly you have some anger issues to work on. There isn't a proposal to add an additional light in. The two lights (Nebraska and Davenport) would be able to handle the traffic flow but a traffic study is being done. As a bike/pedestrian commuter down Reno you know how crazy the traffic can be and how great the crossing guards are-- especially the one at Davenport who should run the training program for the city. As you may already know, plenty of left turns are already happening for drop off each morning in that area. The good news is the teachers arrive earlier than students so it really would be everyone arriving at once and all trying to take lefts off of Reno.

I am sure you have already tried this but if not 36th is a much quieter street and runs parallel to Reno. I would never allow my child to ride a bike along Reno during rush hour. 36th is just one block away and much safer for children (and perhaps will lessen your anger).

Good points, all.

[Anonymous]

+1 Crazy bicyclist needs to chill way out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, the lot entrance is off Reno. The cafeteria is at Davenport and 36th. There is a service entrance there but not the lot (not that there would be food contamination from the lag regardless).

booooo. Really, a new curb cut off of Reno, so three intersections within 100 yards of each other? (Elliott, Davenport and New Driveway)

Time to alert and organize the broader community, if so.

The folks from the neighborhood who came to the presentation didn't seem concerned. I think they're pleased that the garage traffic will be kept on a busy road rather than on the side streets, which get so congested with pick-up/drop-off traffic.

It makes a lot of sense to me.

The broader community supports the Reno curb cut. Reno is a commuter route and most would like to see the traffic slowed in that section which is highly traveled by kids going to Murch, Deal and Wilson. If it moves commuters to a different route even better. There will also be a curb cut on 36th aligning with the curb cuts for the apartment building there. Really, in the grand scheme of things the curb cuts were probably the best thought out.

I have bad news for you. Wisconsin, Connecticut, Georgia, 16th, North Capitol, Benning, the 14th St. Bridge, Memorial Bridge, and Rock Creek Pkwy are also commuter routes. Residents nearby would love to see traffic calming. Murch/Lafayette/Deal/Wilson combined are not powerful enough to impact the commuter routes. Try though - that will be fun to watch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, the lot entrance is off Reno. The cafeteria is at Davenport and 36th. There is a service entrance there but not the lot (not that there would be food contamination from the lag regardless).

booooo. Really, a new curb cut off of Reno, so three intersections within 100 yards of each other? (Elliott, Davenport and New Driveway)

Time to alert and organize the broader community, if so.

The folks from the neighborhood who came to the presentation didn't seem concerned. I think they're pleased that the garage traffic will be kept on a busy road rather than on the side streets, which get so congested with pick-up/drop-off traffic.

It makes a lot of sense to me.

The broader community supports the Reno curb cut. Reno is a commuter route and most would like to see the traffic slowed in that section which is highly traveled by kids going to Murch, Deal and Wilson. If it moves commuters to a different route even better. There will also be a curb cut on 36th aligning with the curb cuts for the apartment building there. Really, in the grand scheme of things the curb cuts were probably the best thought out.

I have bad news for you. Wisconsin, Connecticut, Georgia, 16th, North Capitol, Benning, the 14th St. Bridge, Memorial Bridge, and Rock Creek Pkwy are also commuter routes. Residents nearby would love to see traffic calming. Murch/Lafayette/Deal/Wilson combined are not powerful enough to impact the commuter routes. Try though - that will be fun to watch.

You and the angry cyclist should go to yoga together. You've both taken this conversation to a weird place.

To clarify: Someone said another entrance/exit on Reno was a bad idea, and others said it's the best option and might have the side benefit of discouraging some commuters from using Reno. THere's no concerted effort to use Murch renovation as a Reno traffic calming measure.

Go look for a fight somewhere else.