American Sniper

[Anonymous]

Anyone mentioning the incident with Jesse Ventura is propagating a known lie. I think Ventura is an idiot but no one should be helping Kyle's estate spread lies about him.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/01/american_sniper_lawsuit_chris_kyle_told_lies_about_jesse_ventura.html

[Anonymous]

I gotta admit...I saw the movie Friday afternoon, before all of this hype. I knew nothing about the movie. Just that it was a war movie and was nominated for an Oscar. I did not know it was about Chris Kyle until the final scenes. I remember hearing aobut it when he died, but did not remember his name. Throughout most of the movie, I thought my conservative friends would be outraged by the way it portrayed the American soldier. It did not show him in a positive light, IMO.

He was portrayed as a very simple-minded redneck, and was taught violence and aggression at a very young age. His dad gave him a bizarre speech about sheep, sheepdogs, wolves. He barely seemed capable of speaking in full sentences. He decided to become a sniper when he got bored with being a cowboy. (Actually, in the film he decided to enlist after 9/11, which is admirable...but that wasn't the case in real life.) His obsession with killing and the Butcher (fictional character) even while at home was disturbing. He was distant as a father and husband. He made the unwise decision to take mentally ill people to a shooting range. His death was very ironic. I did not see him as a war hero.

We DO have veterans in this country who are true heroes on AND off the battlefield. People who have had to overcome much more than he ever did. I would much rather see a movie about these guys...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ppnxofjnn8

[Anonymous]

...and there's a scene that touches on the cowardly mindset of snipers. In the scene, Kyle wants to join the Marines on the ground while his fellow sniper refuses to go with him - the guy said that he likes his life and wants to live, so he just continued sniping from the rooftop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberalism is deflating and miserable. Why would anybody want to spend money on a liberal lecture?

Wow. So you admit that conservatives see civil rights as a liberal agenda? Fine. You guys stop pretending to be for civil rights (nobody was buying it anyway) and we will stop pretending that the modern day military is defending our freedom.

boring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Liberalism is deflating and miserable. Why would anybody want to spend money on a liberal lecture?

Wow. So you admit that conservatives see civil rights as a liberal agenda? Fine. You guys stop pretending to be for civil rights (nobody was buying it anyway) and we will stop pretending that the modern day military is defending our freedom.

Everybody has a snarky opinion....till their head gets chopped off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberalism is deflating and miserable. Why would anybody want to spend money on a liberal lecture?

Wow. So you admit that conservatives see civil rights as a liberal agenda? Fine. You guys stop pretending to be for civil rights (nobody was buying it anyway) and we will stop pretending that the modern day military is defending our freedom.

What was the Civil War about again?

[Anonymous]

Its amazing to me that this many people can quibble with a very straightforward account of someone who served through multiple deployments, distinguished themselves greatly in the very service they were recruited and asked to do, and then fought to.come home - a fight through ptsd that very few understand, that is clearly horrible on the person and family,.and that is gaining growing recognition as a real condition, not something u just 'shake off'. He then died helping others in this state. Not just the killer, but others whom you probably would walk by/look away not knowing what to do or say. He found something to do that they appreciated.
As to being simple.or a meathead- my spouse is in the military, has higher degrees, speaks a foreign language. I certainly hope in a biopic he's be depicted that way. Chris Kyle was depicted as a straightforward person with his own skills set,.one of which was sense of purpose, a sense of humor which to.me speaks of intelligence. If he was like that great, but I'm glad they didn't dress him up and have him.play the violin if thats not who he was.
What's your ax? Would you like the military to get rid of snipers? Would you like them to stop hiring Texans whom you seem to look down on? Only people with philosophy degrees ( and there are plenty in the military btw).
The bigotry I am seeing in reactions to the film.is phenomenal. You may not have supported the war, but to kick the people we sent for doing the job we asked of them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its amazing to me that this many people can quibble with a very straightforward account of someone who served through multiple deployments, distinguished themselves greatly in the very service they were recruited and asked to do, and then fought to.come home - a fight through ptsd that very few understand, that is clearly horrible on the person and family,.and that is gaining growing recognition as a real condition, not something u just 'shake off'. He then died helping others in this state. Not just the killer, but others whom you probably would walk by/look away not knowing what to do or say. He found something to do that they appreciated.
As to being simple.or a meathead- my spouse is in the military, has higher degrees, speaks a foreign language. I certainly hope in a biopic he's be depicted that way. Chris Kyle was depicted as a straightforward person with his own skills set,.one of which was sense of purpose, a sense of humor which to.me speaks of intelligence. If he was like that great, but I'm glad they didn't dress him up and have him.play the violin if thats not who he was.
What's your ax? Would you like the military to get rid of snipers? Would you like them to stop hiring Texans whom you seem to look down on? Only people with philosophy degrees ( and there are plenty in the military btw).
The bigotry I am seeing in reactions to the film.is phenomenal. You may not have supported the war, but to kick the people we sent for doing the job we asked of them?

+1

I am embarrassed to live in a country that trashes this man and defends a "man" like Michael Brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I gotta admit...I saw the movie Friday afternoon, before all of this hype. I knew nothing about the movie. Just that it was a war movie and was nominated for an Oscar. I did not know it was about Chris Kyle until the final scenes. I remember hearing aobut it when he died, but did not remember his name. Throughout most of the movie, I thought my conservative friends would be outraged by the way it portrayed the American soldier. It did not show him in a positive light, IMO.

He was portrayed as a very simple-minded redneck, and was taught violence and aggression at a very young age. His dad gave him a bizarre speech about sheep, sheepdogs, wolves. He barely seemed capable of speaking in full sentences. He decided to become a sniper when he got bored with being a cowboy. (Actually, in the film he decided to enlist after 9/11, which is admirable...but that wasn't the case in real life.) His obsession with killing and the Butcher (fictional character) even while at home was disturbing. He was distant as a father and husband. He made the unwise decision to take mentally ill people to a shooting range. His death was very ironic. I did not see him as a war hero.

We DO have veterans in this country who are true heroes on AND off the battlefield. People who have had to overcome much more than he ever did. I would much rather see a movie about these guys...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ppnxofjnn8

Untrue. In the movie, he and his wife watched 9/11 events unfold together. He met his wife while already training in the military.

[Anonymous]

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...and there's a scene that touches on the cowardly mindset of snipers. In the scene, Kyle wants to join the Marines on the ground while his fellow sniper refuses to go with him - the guy said that he likes his life and wants to live, so he just continued sniping from the rooftop.

With that statement it shows you really have no understanding of what snipers do.

[Anonymous]

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...and there's a scene that touches on the cowardly mindset of snipers. In the scene, Kyle wants to join the Marines on the ground while his fellow sniper refuses to go with him - the guy said that he likes his life and wants to live, so he just continued sniping from the rooftop.

With that statement it shows you really have no understanding of what snipers do.

Conversely on Saving Private Ryan ... I was like who runs into gun fire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:...and there's a scene that touches on the cowardly mindset of snipers. In the scene, Kyle wants to join the Marines on the ground while his fellow sniper refuses to go with him - the guy said that he likes his life and wants to live, so he just continued sniping from the rooftop.

So one sniper stayed up top and Kyle wanted to risk his life and go down and help. Just another reason he is a hero.

[Anonymous]

...and there's a scene that touches on the cowardly mindset of snipers. In the scene, Kyle wants to join the Marines on the ground while his fellow sniper refuses to go with him - the guy said that he likes his life and wants to live, so he just continued sniping from the rooftop.

With that statement it shows you really have no understanding of what snipers do.

+100 look up Carlos Hathcock and get true feeling for what a sniper does. Coward, hardly. It is disturbing you would make such a statement. What exactly is your background to have grounds to call someone who has seen combat a coward?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't we have nicer kinder snipers that appreciate art.

So snipers get to come home and kill people, beat people, and accuse the federal government of killing dozens of Americans without due process?

We ask them to do atrocious thinks to protect our county, lack the ability to manage mental illness when they return, then you sit iny our warm homes with your high speed internet and degrees you don't use judging them.

He was a simplistic minded person whose dichotomous view of the world (us good, them.bad, ooga booga) allowed him to take delight in killing other human beings. I absolutely feel comfortable criticizing people like him, including the mouth breathing opportunists in our government who led us into an unjustified war by exploiting the ignorant prejudices of people like him, and which accomplished nothing more than to make us less safe. Chris Kyle loved what he did; no one asked him to do shit. He's not MY hero.

Classic dcum judgmentalism.

No. I'm just a person who can think critically, and for myself - not a flag waving, unquestioning sheep. Baa-aaa!

Interesting that you interject "flag waving" into your statement, as if that were a knee-jerk negative thought that you have about the U.S. military, yet you view yourself as a critical thinker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So for anyone who had a father, mother, uncle, aunt, son, daughter, nephew, niece, cousin, grandchild in the military. You know, the ones who actually walk the walk instead of talking the talk.

Would you want Kyle watching their back or no?

They won't answer this because liberals don't have anyone in the military. They are too busy taking advantage of their freedom by complaining about military and police instead of actually helping out themselves.