Octuplet mom: Can you justify that level of anger in public?

[Anonymous]

Do you people have lives?

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Anonymous wrote:quote] My "source" is that I'm Arab and grew up in the Middle East (although not Iraq). The fact that she's unmarried is unheard of. Her method of impregnation is irrelevant. Religion, here, is secondary to culture. I don't care if she's Muslim or Christian.

And I'm only speaking of Arab culture here, because it was mentioned by someone else. I realize only her father is Arab and she grew up in the States. In my experience, however, first generation Arab American families do not act like this. It is completely bizarre.

I don't think I ever said that her being unmarried is typical of Arab culture but that's what you are bringing up. What I said was that it is not uncommon for Arabs to have or want many children. Then I also mentioned that she's a Christian Arab, not a Muslim Arab and you wrote to say "That's absolutely not true." I understood this to be in response to my assertion that she is not Muslim. This has been a very long thread so I might have gotten some posts mixed up, but this is my understanding of our discussion.

Her parents names are Ed and Angela. These are not Muslim names. I don't know of any Muslims with these names. They usually have names such as Muhammad, Ali, Mahmood, Aziza, Fatima, etc...so likely her parents are not Muslim. This is what I was commenting about.

As for her bizarre behavior, I don't think anybody is arguing she's a bit bizarre - whether she's Arab, from Zimbabwe, or China. But the deep desire to have many children is common in Arab culture. I'm a Muslim, though not Arab. I go to our mosque (like a church) where many families have numerous children. The Imam of our mosque, the religious leader who is also Arab, is one of 7 children. Younger generations are less likely to have so many children if raised in the U.S. but among traditional Arabs having a lot of children isn't a shock. Now maybe not 14 and maybe not through invitro while single, but this goes to her psych issues and that's not under protest here.

Where are the facts? The rest of it is a big bag of bull.

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quote] My "source" is that I'm Arab and grew up in the Middle East (although not Iraq). The fact that she's unmarried is unheard of. Her method of impregnation is irrelevant. Religion, here, is secondary to culture. I don't care if she's Muslim or Christian.

And I'm only speaking of Arab culture here, because it was mentioned by someone else. I realize only her father is Arab and she grew up in the States. In my experience, however, first generation Arab American families do not act like this. It is completely bizarre"

More B.S.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen the video of her and her mother being interviewed, and it all going wrong. Dear God this woman is a nutter.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/02/octomom-lied-about-pregnancy-i-have-a-tumor.php

Anyone watch this? She told her mother she had a tumor, and she wasn't pregnant. Ummm, that "tumor" turned out to be 8 more freaking babies.

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Anonymous wrote:

My "source" is that I'm Arab and grew up in the Middle East (although not Iraq). The fact that she's unmarried is unheard of. Her method of impregnation is irrelevant. Religion, here, is secondary to culture. I don't care if she's Muslim or Christian.

And I'm only speaking of Arab culture here, because it was mentioned by someone else. I realize only her father is Arab and she grew up in the States. In my experience, however, first generation Arab American families do not act like this. It is completely bizarre"

More B.S.

Ana mish fahma, ya benty. Inti arabiya?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It should be a good show. I read earlier today that the hospital and social workers are evaluating whether or not she should be allowed to take the babies home.

Beginning with how do you even transport 8 special needs ICU infants? Feel sorry for the other kids and for the grandparents. They're old and need a break.

[Anonymous]

I was mocked earlier because I posted an article that appeared on ET questioning Nadya's ability to care for her children. I heard about the complaint filed on the news and then googled, found and posted the written article not realizing that it was on ETs website. Here's a more recent article from a reliable source.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/20/earlyshow/main4815110.shtml

[Anonymous]

If all of ya'll posting on this forum continue to pay this much attention to the issue and this thread, you may end up jobless and homeless too! Perhaps it's time get back to work or your families and think about something else for a change?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:quote] My "source" is that I'm Arab and grew up in the Middle East (although not Iraq). The fact that she's unmarried is unheard of. Her method of impregnation is irrelevant. Religion, here, is secondary to culture. I don't care if she's Muslim or Christian.

And I'm only speaking of Arab culture here, because it was mentioned by someone else. I realize only her father is Arab and she grew up in the States. In my experience, however, first generation Arab American families do not act like this. It is completely bizarre"

More B.S.

Is there a credible source for the facts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:quote] My "source" is that I'm Arab and grew up in the Middle East (although not Iraq). The fact that she's unmarried is unheard of. Her method of impregnation is irrelevant. Religion, here, is secondary to culture. I don't care if she's Muslim or Christian.

And I'm only speaking of Arab culture here, because it was mentioned by someone else. I realize only her father is Arab and she grew up in the States. In my experience, however, first generation Arab American families do not act like this. It is completely bizarre"

More B.S.

In other words, you don't know jack.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll be interesting to hear what Dr. Phil says to Nadya on his show today. I think his take on it is that she is addicted to being pregnant. Nonetheless, it'll be interesting.

Is she really scheduled to be on his show?

He met up with her for the interview. So yep, she's the star of the show today but no, she won't be physically in the show studio where the audience could have a free-for-all with her.

Dr. Shill? Are you kidding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If all of ya'll posting on this forum continue to pay this much attention to the issue and this thread, you may end up jobless and homeless too! Perhaps it's time get back to work or your families and think about something else for a change?

I love when people get on threads and start bitching about how people shouldn't be on them. If you don't like the topic or it doesn't interest you, don't bother posting.

[Anonymous]

No, the topic is fine, I just find it alarming that people are spending this much time debating it.

FWIW, i think people should just leave this woman alone, already. I can understand how it might tug on some people's heartstrings to think 8 babies (or 14 children) may be in danger of neglect, but most of the posters are just interested in spewing hate. And even those who support seem like they might want to move on to something else now. Social services will be monitoring, and clearly the sharks are circling this woman (both those who would pretend to help aka "angels in waiting" and those writing death threats and dr. dingdong aka dr. phil) and so are the supporters. Move on, the story is over.

Everyone has an opinion on this, but you can go back and forth a million times without resolving it. You're not going to make someone stop hating other people, nor are you going to convince someone who supports her that they should give hate a chance. So why bother beating the dead horse? It's starting to stink a little bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, lots of parents do stupid things at 33 or even older. There is a thread that was started talking about a mom who leaves her DC in the car while running errands. Now, that's stupid!

I just had to point out that there is someone who thinks it's stupider to use the ATM while the kids are in the car than it is to get pregnant with octuplets when you already have 6 children under the age of 8, no income, no spouse, no job, and no supportive family.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the points brought up on this page were discussed pages ago already.

Foreclosure began Feb. 9th. She got pregnant 9 months before this before the family was in dire financial straits - as I understand. May be wrong but this is from what I read.

Many families have their kids in daycare or preschool for 40 hours a week. They don't always give them their undivided attention all during the day because they're working.

She's immature and need psych help, you'll get no argument from me on those points. But her actions do not rise to the level of terminating parental rights. If you just read up on what would truly give rise to terminating parental rights you would understand that as nutty as Nadya may be, she shouldn't be considered for such an egregious measure.

No matter what you think of Nadya, I wish people would separate feelings against nadya from help for those babies. Your attitude only makes it harder on those newborns.

Do you really believe that a family is not in dire financial straits until foreclosure begins? Really? I shudder to think of the state of your finances.