s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

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Anonymous wrote:i think that many AA people teach their children to distrust and dislike whites because they think we are all potentially racists. What I find amusing about this is that they are ignoring the many other non-AA people in our country who are just as likely to be prejudiced against them.

When the AAs become the true minority numbers-wise and have no allies on any side due to years of holding themselves out as the main victim minority, THEN they will really have something to worry about.

Actually, other racial ethnic groups, especially immigrants, know that blacks are the most stigmatized group in the US and they know they can climb the ladder by also distancing themselves from blacks. Check out the book "How the Irish Became White," a scholarly book showing how the Irish were once sympathetic to the anti-slavery cause back when they were considered a separate inferior race by the English. But when the Irish immigrated to the United States they realized they could rise socially by becoming "white" and identifying with the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who ruled the country.

Seriously, if you want the dominant group to accept you, the last thing you would do is be friendly to the group they dislike the most.

This is what Asian immigrants do too! Look down on AAs and rise by quickly assimilating with the dominant white majority.

Why didn't/don't AAs do this then, too, to get a step ahead?

You do realize the President is AA don't you? No doubt this is due in no small part to his ability to integrate into the culture of mainstream society and assimilate white culture without the contrasting experience of living in a predominantly minority community.

You do realize that the most vitriolic baseless attacks are made against him? "He's not a real American" "His presidency is illegal" "He's lawless". His "assimilation" apparently isnt enough for him to be treated like every other president over the past 200 years.

Obama definitely benefited from being raised by a white mother and white grandparents in places where there were virtually no African Americans. And also because his father was a well educated African, not an African American.

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Anonymous wrote:i think that many AA people teach their children to distrust and dislike whites because they think we are all potentially racists. What I find amusing about this is that they are ignoring the many other non-AA people in our country who are just as likely to be prejudiced against them.

When the AAs become the true minority numbers-wise and have no allies on any side due to years of holding themselves out as the main victim minority, THEN they will really have something to worry about.

Actually, other racial ethnic groups, especially immigrants, know that blacks are the most stigmatized group in the US and they know they can climb the ladder by also distancing themselves from blacks. Check out the book "How the Irish Became White," a scholarly book showing how the Irish were once sympathetic to the anti-slavery cause back when they were considered a separate inferior race by the English. But when the Irish immigrated to the United States they realized they could rise socially by becoming "white" and identifying with the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who ruled the country.

Seriously, if you want the dominant group to accept you, the last thing you would do is be friendly to the group they dislike the most.

This is what Asian immigrants do too! Look down on AAs and rise by quickly assimilating with the dominant white majority.

Why didn't/don't AAs do this then, too, to get a step ahead?

You do realize the President is AA don't you? No doubt this is due in no small part to his ability to integrate into the culture of mainstream society and assimilate white culture without the contrasting experience of living in a predominantly minority community.

You do realize that the most vitriolic baseless attacks are made against him? "He's not a real American" "His presidency is illegal" "He's lawless". His "assimilation" apparently isnt enough for him to be treated like every other president over the past 200 years.

Obama definitely benefited from being raised by a white mother and white grandparents in places where there were virtually no African Americans. And also because his father was a well educated African, not an African American.

It also helped that he grew up where minorities, at least compared to the US, are the majority but where whites still hold much of the power.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's premise is so ignorant it sounds like it was written for the Onion. I grew up in an all white neighborhood, went to all white schools, a large university and law school. What I saw time and time again was many white kids with no respect for authority. Drinking sometimes vandalism, reckless with people's property. Not everyone, not all the time. Just like with black kids or any other racial group. The difference is was how this infractions were treated. Even for actual crimes, there was no more than a slap on the wrist. The armed shooter in Aurora was taken into custody alive after he KILLED 12 people and hurt more. If a white kid shoplifts, is that an excuse for him to be shot? If you think that would be tolerated in this country you are truly delusional. My AA family has been in this country for 9 generations way before many Americans of European decent. This is my country too. I pay taxes for a government who should serve me and my family as well. If my kids make a mistake they shouldn't have to pay for it with their lives just like yours. What I teach my children is that this country is unfair and there is structural racism. When you see your white privileged friends do stupid things know that just because of the color of your skin you will be treated differently. Now I have answered your "question" what do you teach your children about white privilege and prejudice?

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AA's have been dehumanized from day one and considered all one collective unit of savages not seen as individuals sentient beings, subsequently AA's are abused and executed like animals when they are so much as suspected of a transgression. Contrarily, whites are accepted as being human and are given the benefit of the doubt that comes with such recognition. Whites are considered capable of making individual mistakes and deserving of leniency and forgiveness for their transgressions because the attitudes and actions of one does not reflect upon them all. Johnny White killed someone but ALL blacks are violent. Bobby White smokes meth but ALL blacks are drug addicts. Danny White stole a car but ALL blacks are criminals. It's perception and propaganda plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's premise is so ignorant it sounds like it was written for the Onion. I grew up in an all white neighborhood, went to all white schools, a large university and law school. What I saw time and time again was many white kids with no respect for authority. Drinking sometimes vandalism, reckless with people's property. Not everyone, not all the time. Just like with black kids or any other racial group. The difference is was how this infractions were treated. Even for actual crimes, there was no more than a slap on the wrist. The armed shooter in Aurora was taken into custody alive after he KILLED 12 people and hurt more. If a white kid shoplifts, is that an excuse for him to be shot? If you think that would be tolerated in this country you are truly delusional. My AA family has been in this country for 9 generations way before many Americans of European decent. This is my country too. I pay taxes for a government who should serve me and my family as well. If my kids make a mistake they shouldn't have to pay for it with their lives just like yours. What I teach my children is that this country is unfair and there is structural racism. When you see your white privileged friends do stupid things know that just because of the color of your skin you will be treated differently. Now I have answered your "question" what do you teach your children about white privilege and prejudice?

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AA's have been dehumanized from day one and considered all one collective unit of savages not seen as individuals sentient beings, subsequently AA's are abused and executed like animals when they are so much as suspected of a transgression. Contrarily, whites are accepted as being human and are given the benefit of the doubt that comes with such recognition. Whites are considered capable of making individual mistakes and deserving of leniency and forgiveness for their transgressions because the attitudes and actions of one does not reflect upon them all. Johnny White killed someone but ALL blacks are violent. Bobby White smokes meth but ALL blacks are drug addicts. Danny White stole a car but ALL blacks are criminals. It's perception and propaganda plain and simple.

Crazy since whites are the savages who committed crimes against humanity to further their own kind.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's premise is so ignorant it sounds like it was written for the Onion. I grew up in an all white neighborhood, went to all white schools, a large university and law school. What I saw time and time again was many white kids with no respect for authority. Drinking sometimes vandalism, reckless with people's property. Not everyone, not all the time. Just like with black kids or any other racial group. The difference is was how this infractions were treated. Even for actual crimes, there was no more than a slap on the wrist. The armed shooter in Aurora was taken into custody alive after he KILLED 12 people and hurt more. If a white kid shoplifts, is that an excuse for him to be shot? If you think that would be tolerated in this country you are truly delusional. My AA family has been in this country for 9 generations way before many Americans of European decent. This is my country too. I pay taxes for a government who should serve me and my family as well. If my kids make a mistake they shouldn't have to pay for it with their lives just like yours. What I teach my children is that this country is unfair and there is structural racism. When you see your white privileged friends do stupid things know that just because of the color of your skin you will be treated differently. Now I have answered your "question" what do you teach your children about white privilege and prejudice?

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AA's have been dehumanized from day one and considered all one collective unit of savages not seen as individuals sentient beings, subsequently AA's are abused and executed like animals when they are so much as suspected of a transgression. Contrarily, whites are accepted as being human and are given the benefit of the doubt that comes with such recognition. Whites are considered capable of making individual mistakes and deserving of leniency and forgiveness for their transgressions because the attitudes and actions of one does not reflect upon them all. Johnny White killed someone but ALL blacks are violent. Bobby White smokes meth but ALL blacks are drug addicts. Danny White stole a car but ALL blacks are criminals. It's perception and propaganda plain and simple.

So, as a white person, I'm supposed to listen to this again and again?

It doesn't affect me any longer, as we're all basically desensitized. So you can preach all you like, but don't think you're changing the minds of those who don't want to hear - or who HAVE heard and realize it's steeped in history and truth but who can't listen to it ad nauseam b/c it's like a broken record.

So a white says something offensive and there's a retort from a black person.

gets us nowhere . . .
just makes me want to find a place where race matters not - Where is that Eden?

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that they do teach their kids to be respectful, but they are teenagers. Teenagers do what they want and are frequently stupid. Difference is a white teenager is unlikely to get shot for it.

I'm wondering if there is a dialogue going on in AA homes that is very blunt saying -- we think it's unfair this kid was killed but that's how cops are sometimes, so if you are ever stopped, do exactly what they say. Because the dialogue going on publicly is how terrible this is. It is terrible but the notions about black teen boys aren't going anywhere any time soon -- so why not drill it into their heads how one must act as a black teen? Why not tell them it's unfair but that's how the world is instead of giving them ideas that protesting and demonstrating will change the underlying attitudes. I feel like this should be drilled into their heads the same way you drill in things like seatbelts every time you get in a car.

Yes, drill it into their heads to become complacent and listen to what massa says. Tell them to keep their eyes looking down and move over off the sidewalks when a white person walks by. Oh shit, they tried that and it didn't work then.

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Anonymous wrote:Because they have a 300 year old chip on their shoulder.

I'm black and agree with you completely.

You lie.

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Incognita wrote:Someone please tell all the white, Asian, and middle eastern college and hs kids that hoodies are "thug" clothing and not respectable!!

But white and Asian men aren't in a profiled class already. The point is -- if you are already in a profiled class -- not bc you did something but bc that's society's perception of your race, why not go out of your way to keep your nose clean?

Really, wearing a hoodie from Target equals keeping your nose dirty.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that they do teach their kids to be respectful, but they are teenagers. Teenagers do what they want and are frequently stupid. Difference is a white teenager is unlikely to get shot for it.

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When a black kid is disrespectful it's because he is a thug and gang affiliated. Meanwhile when white guys do it we blame "lacrosse culture"?? I have friends of all races, and they all know that the same behaviors are looked at differently based on skin color.

Agreed. BUT knowing that people will see you as a thug or a gang banger if you are the least bit disrespectful -- why not go out of your way to be as respectful as humanly possible. Yes it's unfair that lacrosse bros don't have to do it, and you do -- but why not go with it because that's the society in which you live.

I guess I just don't get why AAs can't accept -- yes the world is unfair, here's how to survive in it despite that. The dialogue is always -- the world is unfair is, white bros don't have to deal with this. That's true they don't -- but since you as an AA must deal with it, why not find ways to do so??

We have accepted it. We live with it. Why are you assuming that this is brand new information to black people?

Not sure that AAs as a race have accepted it -- because the dialogue is NEVER "this is how the world is" but rather "this is so unfair." Even you started with all the reasons that it's different for whites etc. Who cares -- you're not white so that's not how it is for you.

Yes mam, miss Annie.

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Anonymous wrote:Because they have a 300 year old chip on their shoulder.

I'm black and agree with you completely.

You lie.

PP could be Clarence Thomas for all you know.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that they do teach their kids to be respectful, but they are teenagers. Teenagers do what they want and are frequently stupid. Difference is a white teenager is unlikely to get shot for it.

I'm wondering if there is a dialogue going on in AA homes that is very blunt saying -- we think it's unfair this kid was killed but that's how cops are sometimes, so if you are ever stopped, do exactly what they say. Because the dialogue going on publicly is how terrible this is. It is terrible but the notions about black teen boys aren't going anywhere any time soon -- so why not drill it into their heads how one must act as a black teen? Why not tell them it's unfair but that's how the world is instead of giving them ideas that protesting and demonstrating will change the underlying attitudes. I feel like this should be drilled into their heads the same way you drill in things like seatbelts every time you get in a car.

Yes, drill it into their heads to become complacent and listen to what massa says. Tell them to keep their eyes looking down and move over off the sidewalks when a white person walks by. Oh shit, they tried that and it didn't work then.

It doesn't help to take it to the other extreme either by taking up the entire sidewalk when walking down the street. Or talking loudly and crudely just so you can challenge someone who might look up and you take it the wrong way.

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Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with hoodies? Plenty of non-black people wear hoodies. What does a hoodie have to do with getting shot by the police? And what teenager wears a sport coat? You're being silly.

Do you have some proof that "many black men of that age group" are carrying weapons? I'd like to see it. How do you know this is true?

Get a job in any federal or state court w a huge criminal docket -- you'll see how many black men come through the doors for a crime, violent or not and also have a charge for an unlicensed concealed weapon. You can deny it all you want but a very significant % of black teens in poorer areas have a weapon.

I am a former prosecutor of hillsbourogh county, Florida. This county includes Tampa, Gibsonton, Brandon and two other small towns. There were just as many young white men as black and Hispanic with weapon charges. But for people like you PP, you would only notice the Black and dark Hispanics as those criminals.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's premise is so ignorant it sounds like it was written for the Onion. I grew up in an all white neighborhood, went to all white schools, a large university and law school. What I saw time and time again was many white kids with no respect for authority. Drinking sometimes vandalism, reckless with people's property. Not everyone, not all the time. Just like with black kids or any other racial group. The difference is was how this infractions were treated. Even for actual crimes, there was no more than a slap on the wrist. The armed shooter in Aurora was taken into custody alive after he KILLED 12 people and hurt more. If a white kid shoplifts, is that an excuse for him to be shot? If you think that would be tolerated in this country you are truly delusional. My AA family has been in this country for 9 generations way before many Americans of European decent. This is my country too. I pay taxes for a government who should serve me and my family as well. If my kids make a mistake they shouldn't have to pay for it with their lives just like yours. What I teach my children is that this country is unfair and there is structural racism. When you see your white privileged friends do stupid things know that just because of the color of your skin you will be treated differently. Now I have answered your "question" what do you teach your children about white privilege and prejudice?

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AA's have been dehumanized from day one and considered all one collective unit of savages not seen as individuals sentient beings, subsequently AA's are abused and executed like animals when they are so much as suspected of a transgression. Contrarily, whites are accepted as being human and are given the benefit of the doubt that comes with such recognition. Whites are considered capable of making individual mistakes and deserving of leniency and forgiveness for their transgressions because the attitudes and actions of one does not reflect upon them all. Johnny White killed someone but ALL blacks are violent. Bobby White smokes meth but ALL blacks are drug addicts. Danny White stole a car but ALL blacks are criminals. It's perception and propaganda plain and simple.

So, as a white person, I'm supposed to listen to this again and again?

It doesn't affect me any longer, as we're all basically desensitized. So you can preach all you like, but don't think you're changing the minds of those who don't want to hear - or who HAVE heard and realize it's steeped in history and truth but who can't listen to it ad nauseam b/c it's like a broken record.

So a white says something offensive and there's a retort from a black person.

gets us nowhere . . .
just makes me want to find a place where race matters not - Where is that Eden?

Wow, it seems like you are looking for a place where you are never challenged to think about other people's lives and families that are different from your own. Sorry that our society won't afford that to you. It seems like if recognizing the individuality of all people including black people bothers you so much you might need to seek professional help. It's one thing to hear something. It's another to stop being a part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.

OP do you wear mini skirts, swim suits, sheer tops, leggings? How about your daughter? If so, you are a slut and your daughter is a slut. you deserve every rape and every disrespect given. No need to get upset, just shut up and accept it. your mother failed in giving you the talk, and you further failed your daughter. You did not instruct her that she is suppose to dress modestly as to not give permission to rapists to to tape and disrespect her and her dress is the leading factor.

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Anonymous wrote:i think that many AA people teach their children to distrust and dislike whites because they think we are all potentially racists. What I find amusing about this is that they are ignoring the many other non-AA people in our country who are just as likely to be prejudiced against them.

When the AAs become the true minority numbers-wise and have no allies on any side due to years of holding themselves out as the main victim minority, THEN they will really have something to worry about.

Actually, other racial ethnic groups, especially immigrants, know that blacks are the most stigmatized group in the US and they know they can climb the ladder by also distancing themselves from blacks. Check out the book "How the Irish Became White," a scholarly book showing how the Irish were once sympathetic to the anti-slavery cause back when they were considered a separate inferior race by the English. But when the Irish immigrated to the United States they realized they could rise socially by becoming "white" and identifying with the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who ruled the country.

Seriously, if you want the dominant group to accept you, the last thing you would do is be friendly to the group they dislike the most.

This is what Asian immigrants do too! Look down on AAs and rise by quickly assimilating with the dominant white majority.

Why didn't/don't AAs do this then, too, to get a step ahead?

You do realize the President is AA don't you? No doubt this is due in no small part to his ability to integrate into the culture of mainstream society and assimilate white culture without the contrasting experience of living in a predominantly minority community.

You do realize that the most vitriolic baseless attacks are made against him? "He's not a real American" "His presidency is illegal" "He's lawless". His "assimilation" apparently isnt enough for him to be treated like every other president over the past 200 years.

Obama definitely benefited from being raised by a white mother and white grandparents in places where there were virtually no African Americans. And also because his father was a well educated African, not an African American.

So true! Distancing yourself from people who possess ghetto and slave mentalities truly does wonders. When this is taught to you by birth you will reject the pathology that exist within the AA community. When you know better you do better.