Why is there such a racial/ethnic disconnect with TJ Admissions?

[Anonymous]

Why is anyone surprised at the high Asian content? The term "tiger Mom" does not typically refer to the blond chic down the road.

Certain cultures realize that the only way to truly get ahead is through education that will hopefully get you a good job. Study hard, work hard, get a good job, work harder, make decent money so you can support yourself and your family.

This is not a racial bias, just an obvious reflection of who is studying more and who is not.

signed - a caucasian mom desperately trying not to be a tiger mom, but realizing that i might have to be in order for my kid to succeed! reality is reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone surprised at the high Asian content? The term "tiger Mom" does not typically refer to the blond chic down the road.

Certain cultures realize that the only way to truly get ahead is through education that will hopefully get you a good job. Study hard, work hard, get a good job, work harder, make decent money so you can support yourself and your family.

This is not a racial bias, just an obvious reflection of who is studying more and who is not.

signed - a caucasian mom desperately trying not to be a tiger mom, but realizing that i might have to be in order for my kid to succeed! reality is reality.

There are many in the Langley feeders who are cauc tiger moms. They are just not called that.

[Anonymous]

albino tiger moms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone surprised at the high Asian content? The term "tiger Mom" does not typically refer to the blond chic down the road.

Certain cultures realize that the only way to truly get ahead is through education that will hopefully get you a good job. Study hard, work hard, get a good job, work harder, make decent money so you can support yourself and your family.

This is not a racial bias, just an obvious reflection of who is studying more and who is not.

signed - a caucasian mom desperately trying not to be a tiger mom, but realizing that i might have to be in order for my kid to succeed! reality is reality.

Working hard and trying to get ahead in life is American Dream and American Way. Unless one is born into wealth of financial resources and/or right connections (which many Asians lack though they may have decent/professional jobs), Asian children have no choice but study hard and make something of themselves despite Affirmative Action discrimination in college admissions, bamboo ceiling discrimination in employment and other discrimination against Asians that are not even acknowledged let alone someone trying to do something about. Working hard and studying hard should be applauded not criticized. I am sure no one wants to see more people going into poverty, welfare or struggling to make ends meet and leading desperate lives. We already have enough of those in America. It seems lower class and lower middle class keeps growing everyday instead of decreasing. Not many kids actually prefer to study so much if they did not have to and not as many "tiger moms' would encourage their kids to study and would actually encourage more leisure if they felt they had 20 million in assets and personally knew at least dozen people in "positions of power" to hire their kids for internships/gain admission to elite college as "developmental case"/offer cushy jobs after college etc.

[Anonymous]

^^ It is really bizarre to see criticism of Asian parents and how they raise their children given that many really excel in this country. I am not sure what the driving force is behind this sort of criticism.

It actually reminds me of reports about black children who are picked on by other black kids for being too focused on their studies etc except that in this case it seems to be some white parents who resent Asian children wanting to do well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ It is really bizarre to see criticism of Asian parents and how they raise their children given that many really excel in this country. I am not sure what the driving force is behind this sort of criticism.

It actually reminds me of reports about black children who are picked on by other black kids for being too focused on their studies etc except that in this case it seems to be some white parents who resent Asian children wanting to do well.

Boo hoo. Read this piece and reflect on the possibility that changes are also long overdue at TJ.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/23/opinion/new-york-citys-top-public-schools-need-diversity.html?_r=0

[Anonymous]

if they felt they had 20 million in assets and personally knew at least dozen people in "positions of power" to hire their kids for internships/gain admission to elite college as "developmental case"/offer cushy jobs after college etc.

You know that very few people of any race or background have these advantages?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

if they felt they had 20 million in assets and personally knew at least dozen people in "positions of power" to hire their kids for internships/gain admission to elite college as "developmental case"/offer cushy jobs after college etc.

You know that very few people of any race or background have these advantages?

The point is, of the people that can claim such qualifications (comfortable wealth, right connections), disproportionately small percentage (much smaller than 6%) would be Asians. I don't have the data but I would suspect 1% at most would be Asians, maybe 2 or 3% other minorities, 2 or 3 % others and vast majority (more than 90%) would be white. Since people love to cite disproportionately small % of blacks/Hispanics at TJ compared to their % of population, what about disproportionately small % of Asians who qualify for this criteria of upper class with money and connections despite hard work and study for decades? Work hard, study hard and you can achieve anything in America. Isn't that the American dream? Why is low numbers of blacks/Hispanic in magnet schools such a dire problem discussed almost at every chance with lawsuits and complaints being filed and politicians tripping over themselves to appear politically correct while myriad of discrimination against Asians are ignored? They are not just ignored they are almost condemned if they even dare to raise the issues such as reverse discrimination of Asian Americans in college Admissions, employment discrimination of Asian Americans, almost universal negative portrayal of Asian Americans in pop culture (Movies, TV etc.) and media, discrimination against Asians in Hollywood, entertainment industry etc. Basically, Asian Americans are forced into technical field such as STEM since there is less discrimination in those fields and there are less blacks/Hispanic who are coveted and less whites since many whites prefer more diverse jobs. It is not necessarily because Asians are born with some sort of STEM genes and love to study calculus and physics more than other races. I suspect vast majority of whites screaming about lack of blacks/Hispanics at TJ will qualify as the upper class whites comfortable enough so that they have many options in life; they can send their children to privates if they wanted so no need to sweat for TJ, no problem with college tuition since full pay is no issue etc. etc. You really don't know how it is until you actually experience something yourself. At least blacks.Hispanics have sufficient political clout to have their issues out in public. Asians don't even have that. Society will be judged by how they treat their weakest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It is really bizarre to see criticism of Asian parents and how they raise their children given that many really excel in this country. I am not sure what the driving force is behind this sort of criticism.

It actually reminds me of reports about black children who are picked on by other black kids for being too focused on their studies etc except that in this case it seems to be some white parents who resent Asian children wanting to do well.

Boo hoo. Read this piece and reflect on the possibility that changes are also long overdue at TJ.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/23/opinion/new-york-citys-top-public-schools-need-diversity.html?_r=0

Another move to reward mediocrity. Hopefully, it will not happen in VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It is really bizarre to see criticism of Asian parents and how they raise their children given that many really excel in this country. I am not sure what the driving force is behind this sort of criticism.

It actually reminds me of reports about black children who are picked on by other black kids for being too focused on their studies etc except that in this case it seems to be some white parents who resent Asian children wanting to do well.

Boo hoo. Read this piece and reflect on the possibility that changes are also long overdue at TJ.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/23/opinion/new-york-citys-top-public-schools-need-diversity.html?_r=0

Another move to reward mediocrity. Hopefully, it will not happen in VA.

If the NAACP can file a federal civil rights lawsuit challenging the admissions practices at Stuyvesant, it can surely do so at TJ. If anything, a Virginia school might be subject to greater scrutiny than one in NY.

Consider yourself on notice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It is really bizarre to see criticism of Asian parents and how they raise their children given that many really excel in this country. I am not sure what the driving force is behind this sort of criticism.

It actually reminds me of reports about black children who are picked on by other black kids for being too focused on their studies etc except that in this case it seems to be some white parents who resent Asian children wanting to do well.

Boo hoo. Read this piece and reflect on the possibility that changes are also long overdue at TJ.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/23/opinion/new-york-citys-top-public-schools-need-diversity.html?_r=0

Another move to reward mediocrity. Hopefully, it will not happen in VA.

If the NAACP can file a federal civil rights lawsuit challenging the admissions practices at Stuyvesant, it can surely do so at TJ. If anything, a Virginia school might be subject to greater scrutiny than one in NY.

Consider yourself on notice.

Its about time, in fact well overdue since the Asian population at TJ out weighs the Caucasian population of Fairfax county by a large margin.

[Anonymous]

Yes dumb it down that will help American education system try to catch up. There is a direct correlation to the pc inclusion bs and the downfall of America's education system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes dumb it down that will help American education system try to catch up. There is a direct correlation to the pc inclusion bs and the downfall of America's education system.

+1

Exactly! And then complain that our schools and teachers don't do a good job of educating our children and so let us throw some more money at the the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It is really bizarre to see criticism of Asian parents and how they raise their children given that many really excel in this country. I am not sure what the driving force is behind this sort of criticism.

It actually reminds me of reports about black children who are picked on by other black kids for being too focused on their studies etc except that in this case it seems to be some white parents who resent Asian children wanting to do well.

Boo hoo. Read this piece and reflect on the possibility that changes are also long overdue at TJ.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/23/opinion/new-york-citys-top-public-schools-need-diversity.html?_r=0

Another move to reward mediocrity. Hopefully, it will not happen in VA.

If the NAACP can file a federal civil rights lawsuit challenging the admissions practices at Stuyvesant, it can surely do so at TJ. If anything, a Virginia school might be subject to greater scrutiny than one in NY.

Consider yourself on notice.

Its about time, in fact well overdue since the Asian population at TJ out weighs the Caucasian population of Fairfax county by a large margin.

While we are at it, how about we make the faculty and administrators equal the % of students there and make them 66%. Too much? How about make them equal to the Asian % of the county 16%. That's only fair right? I think currently Asian faculty/staff is about 2% so there is a lot of room for improvement. How about we make the county politicians representative of Asian population of the county as well and make it 16%. I think it's about 1% so much work is needed there as well. How about we make the % of county judges 16% since we are using the population %. I think there are 0% now so our work is cut out for us to make that 16% as well.

[Anonymous]

It's not just politicians and judges and teachers at TJ. What about police officers, they should be 16% Asians. I think it's about 1 or 2% Asian. What about the county employees, they should be representative of the Asian population of the county and be 16% not 2 or 3%. What about all the employees that work at the Gatehouse? They should be 16% Asians. It's outrageous there is such a disproportionate gap in virtually everything except for a place where semi-meritocracy is practiced. If this is not a demonstrable evidence of disparate impact I don't know what is. There should be an immediate Complaint filed with the Civil Rights Division of the US Justice Department alleging racial discrimination alleging wide spread and pervasive discrimination.