Why is there such a racial/ethnic disconnect with TJ Admissions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because one group is populated primarily by people immigrating from countries that treat children very harshly from a young age, and do so with no apologies. Why should the rest of us subsidize and reward such behavior in this country?

Only Asians treat children harshly? That is laughable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry PP, test prep is more a way of life, and it starts well before 6th grade.

for TJ, really?

The TJ prep classes for 5th grader are already full!

http://www.mytjprep.com/schedules

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry PP, test prep is more a way of life, and it starts well before 6th grade.

for TJ, really?

The TJ prep classes for 5th grader are already full!

http://www.mytjprep.com/schedules

And all the teachers are white and run by white. No Asians. I guess we know who are profiting from all the prepping.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of the reasons that Asians in the US are overrepresented in academic achievements is because you have a unbalanced sample set. The majority of the Asians who come to the US do so to come for college, graduate school or to accept high tech or otherwise highly skilled positions. It is very difficult for Asians to emigrate to the US except for academic reasons. Many other races have alternative means of emigrating to the US, but education and highly skilled positions are the vast majority of the opportunities for Asians. So, you have an exceptionally highly intelligent subset of Asians that become US immigrants and end up staying in the US. The average and even slightly above average Asian students don't come to the US. These Asians then breed offspring who tend to be more intelligent than average for their race. That plus most Asian cultures stress academic achievement as a standard make them more competitive in academic situations.

The reason that TJ and selective schools tend to be overrepresented vs other public schools is that Asians place such a high stress on education that many of them will try to send their children to advance or magnet programs even if they have to move to do so and fewer leave their children in public schools, so you have a higher percentage of the Asian population going to select schools leaving fewer in the public school system.

Actually many Asians come to US based on family connections more so than based on employment. In addition, Asians who come to US on student visas to attend colleges/graduate schools are on temporary visas so they must leave US once schooling is complete unless they are offered permanent positions and offer of permanent employment is not that common due to their lack of permanent resident status/citizenship/clearance etc.

As for relocating, that may happen in some cases but it is not common due to high cost and other issues such as obtaining new jobs etc. with relocating.

In my experience (my parents are Asians who came over in the 1950's), many of the Asians who come over for family connections do so for education and are sponsored by the family members. They come to attend school here and stay and they do tend to be among the cream of the crop. I've seen many, many families where the smartest of the cousins comes to the US and are sponsored by the one family member who came over in the previous generation (the uncle or aunt). That family member sponsors them, they study and they stay and they end up sponsoring the next of the cousins/nieces/nephews who will come over. So your two categories, those with family connections and those coming for education include a largely overlapping subset of the more intelligent members of large families who can stay beyond student visas. I've personally seen hundreds of such candidates.

Even the broke Asians that come over here focus on education.

It's interesting, but no one wants to admit it. Asians focus on education to get ahead and hope their kids have a better life.

Blacks and Hispanics focus less on education and instead, complain to the man that they are being held back.

Blacks should have an advantage over other minorities because they actually spoke the English language, but someone that language has evolved into ebonics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't impose quota on Asians like some other schools do.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of the reasons that Asians in the US are overrepresented in academic achievements is because you have a unbalanced sample set. The majority of the Asians who come to the US do so to come for college, graduate school or to accept high tech or otherwise highly skilled positions. It is very difficult for Asians to emigrate to the US except for academic reasons. Many other races have alternative means of emigrating to the US, but education and highly skilled positions are the vast majority of the opportunities for Asians. So, you have an exceptionally highly intelligent subset of Asians that become US immigrants and end up staying in the US. The average and even slightly above average Asian students don't come to the US. These Asians then breed offspring who tend to be more intelligent than average for their race. That plus most Asian cultures stress academic achievement as a standard make them more competitive in academic situations.

The reason that TJ and selective schools tend to be overrepresented vs other public schools is that Asians place such a high stress on education that many of them will try to send their children to advance or magnet programs even if they have to move to do so and fewer leave their children in public schools, so you have a higher percentage of the Asian population going to select schools leaving fewer in the public school system.

Actually many Asians come to US based on family connections more so than based on employment. In addition, Asians who come to US on student visas to attend colleges/graduate schools are on temporary visas so they must leave US once schooling is complete unless they are offered permanent positions and offer of permanent employment is not that common due to their lack of permanent resident status/citizenship/clearance etc.

As for relocating, that may happen in some cases but it is not common due to high cost and other issues such as obtaining new jobs etc. with relocating.

In my experience (my parents are Asians who came over in the 1950's), many of the Asians who come over for family connections do so for education and are sponsored by the family members. They come to attend school here and stay and they do tend to be among the cream of the crop. I've seen many, many families where the smartest of the cousins comes to the US and are sponsored by the one family member who came over in the previous generation (the uncle or aunt). That family member sponsors them, they study and they stay and they end up sponsoring the next of the cousins/nieces/nephews who will come over. So your two categories, those with family connections and those coming for education include a largely overlapping subset of the more intelligent members of large families who can stay beyond student visas. I've personally seen hundreds of such candidates.

Even the broke Asians that come over here focus on education.

It's interesting, but no one wants to admit it. Asians focus on education to get ahead and hope their kids have a better life.

Blacks and Hispanics focus less on education and instead, complain to the man that they are being held back.

Blacks should have an advantage over other minorities because they actually spoke the English language, but someone that language has evolved into ebonics.

So much ignorance in your post. How I wish TJ were closed, so that people like you would have one less soapbox from which to expound your misguided theories about Asian superiority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of the reasons that Asians in the US are overrepresented in academic achievements is because you have a unbalanced sample set. The majority of the Asians who come to the US do so to come for college, graduate school or to accept high tech or otherwise highly skilled positions. It is very difficult for Asians to emigrate to the US except for academic reasons. Many other races have alternative means of emigrating to the US, but education and highly skilled positions are the vast majority of the opportunities for Asians. So, you have an exceptionally highly intelligent subset of Asians that become US immigrants and end up staying in the US. The average and even slightly above average Asian students don't come to the US. These Asians then breed offspring who tend to be more intelligent than average for their race. That plus most Asian cultures stress academic achievement as a standard make them more competitive in academic situations.

The reason that TJ and selective schools tend to be overrepresented vs other public schools is that Asians place such a high stress on education that many of them will try to send their children to advance or magnet programs even if they have to move to do so and fewer leave their children in public schools, so you have a higher percentage of the Asian population going to select schools leaving fewer in the public school system.

Actually many Asians come to US based on family connections more so than based on employment. In addition, Asians who come to US on student visas to attend colleges/graduate schools are on temporary visas so they must leave US once schooling is complete unless they are offered permanent positions and offer of permanent employment is not that common due to their lack of permanent resident status/citizenship/clearance etc.

As for relocating, that may happen in some cases but it is not common due to high cost and other issues such as obtaining new jobs etc. with relocating.

In my experience (my parents are Asians who came over in the 1950's), many of the Asians who come over for family connections do so for education and are sponsored by the family members. They come to attend school here and stay and they do tend to be among the cream of the crop. I've seen many, many families where the smartest of the cousins comes to the US and are sponsored by the one family member who came over in the previous generation (the uncle or aunt). That family member sponsors them, they study and they stay and they end up sponsoring the next of the cousins/nieces/nephews who will come over. So your two categories, those with family connections and those coming for education include a largely overlapping subset of the more intelligent members of large families who can stay beyond student visas. I've personally seen hundreds of such candidates.

Even the broke Asians that come over here focus on education.

It's interesting, but no one wants to admit it. Asians focus on education to get ahead and hope their kids have a better life.

Blacks and Hispanics focus less on education and instead, complain to the man that they are being held back.

Blacks should have an advantage over other minorities because they actually spoke the English language, but someone that language has evolved into ebonics.

So much ignorance in your post. How I wish TJ were closed, so that people like you would have one less soapbox from which to expound your misguided theories about Asian superiority.

How is saying Asians focus on education compared to other groups expounding Asian superiority? How is focusing on education a basis for wanting TJ closed? Your post doesn't make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of the reasons that Asians in the US are overrepresented in academic achievements is because you have a unbalanced sample set. The majority of the Asians who come to the US do so to come for college, graduate school or to accept high tech or otherwise highly skilled positions. It is very difficult for Asians to emigrate to the US except for academic reasons. Many other races have alternative means of emigrating to the US, but education and highly skilled positions are the vast majority of the opportunities for Asians. So, you have an exceptionally highly intelligent subset of Asians that become US immigrants and end up staying in the US. The average and even slightly above average Asian students don't come to the US. These Asians then breed offspring who tend to be more intelligent than average for their race. That plus most Asian cultures stress academic achievement as a standard make them more competitive in academic situations.

The reason that TJ and selective schools tend to be overrepresented vs other public schools is that Asians place such a high stress on education that many of them will try to send their children to advance or magnet programs even if they have to move to do so and fewer leave their children in public schools, so you have a higher percentage of the Asian population going to select schools leaving fewer in the public school system.

Actually many Asians come to US based on family connections more so than based on employment. In addition, Asians who come to US on student visas to attend colleges/graduate schools are on temporary visas so they must leave US once schooling is complete unless they are offered permanent positions and offer of permanent employment is not that common due to their lack of permanent resident status/citizenship/clearance etc.

As for relocating, that may happen in some cases but it is not common due to high cost and other issues such as obtaining new jobs etc. with relocating.

In my experience (my parents are Asians who came over in the 1950's), many of the Asians who come over for family connections do so for education and are sponsored by the family members. They come to attend school here and stay and they do tend to be among the cream of the crop. I've seen many, many families where the smartest of the cousins comes to the US and are sponsored by the one family member who came over in the previous generation (the uncle or aunt). That family member sponsors them, they study and they stay and they end up sponsoring the next of the cousins/nieces/nephews who will come over. So your two categories, those with family connections and those coming for education include a largely overlapping subset of the more intelligent members of large families who can stay beyond student visas. I've personally seen hundreds of such candidates.

Even the broke Asians that come over here focus on education.

It's interesting, but no one wants to admit it. Asians focus on education to get ahead and hope their kids have a better life.

Blacks and Hispanics focus less on education and instead, complain to the man that they are being held back.

Blacks should have an advantage over other minorities because they actually spoke the English language, but someone that language has evolved into ebonics.

So much ignorance in your post. How I wish TJ were closed, so that people like you would have one less soapbox from which to expound your misguided theories about Asian superiority.

How is saying Asians focus on education compared to other groups expounding Asian superiority? How is focusing on education a basis for wanting TJ closed? Your post doesn't make sense.

Blacks focus too much on becoming the next Lebron, the next MJ, the next Deion Sanders, the next RG3, rapper, sports agent, basketball summer league organizer, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of the reasons that Asians in the US are overrepresented in academic achievements is because you have a unbalanced sample set. The majority of the Asians who come to the US do so to come for college, graduate school or to accept high tech or otherwise highly skilled positions. It is very difficult for Asians to emigrate to the US except for academic reasons. Many other races have alternative means of emigrating to the US, but education and highly skilled positions are the vast majority of the opportunities for Asians. So, you have an exceptionally highly intelligent subset of Asians that become US immigrants and end up staying in the US. The average and even slightly above average Asian students don't come to the US. These Asians then breed offspring who tend to be more intelligent than average for their race. That plus most Asian cultures stress academic achievement as a standard make them more competitive in academic situations.

The reason that TJ and selective schools tend to be overrepresented vs other public schools is that Asians place such a high stress on education that many of them will try to send their children to advance or magnet programs even if they have to move to do so and fewer leave their children in public schools, so you have a higher percentage of the Asian population going to select schools leaving fewer in the public school system.

Actually many Asians come to US based on family connections more so than based on employment. In addition, Asians who come to US on student visas to attend colleges/graduate schools are on temporary visas so they must leave US once schooling is complete unless they are offered permanent positions and offer of permanent employment is not that common due to their lack of permanent resident status/citizenship/clearance etc.

As for relocating, that may happen in some cases but it is not common due to high cost and other issues such as obtaining new jobs etc. with relocating.

In my experience (my parents are Asians who came over in the 1950's), many of the Asians who come over for family connections do so for education and are sponsored by the family members. They come to attend school here and stay and they do tend to be among the cream of the crop. I've seen many, many families where the smartest of the cousins comes to the US and are sponsored by the one family member who came over in the previous generation (the uncle or aunt). That family member sponsors them, they study and they stay and they end up sponsoring the next of the cousins/nieces/nephews who will come over. So your two categories, those with family connections and those coming for education include a largely overlapping subset of the more intelligent members of large families who can stay beyond student visas. I've personally seen hundreds of such candidates.

Even the broke Asians that come over here focus on education.

It's interesting, but no one wants to admit it. Asians focus on education to get ahead and hope their kids have a better life.

Blacks and Hispanics focus less on education and instead, complain to the man that they are being held back.

Blacks should have an advantage over other minorities because they actually spoke the English language, but someone that language has evolved into ebonics.

So much ignorance in your post. How I wish TJ were closed, so that people like you would have one less soapbox from which to expound your misguided theories about Asian superiority.

How is saying Asians focus on education compared to other groups expounding Asian superiority? How is focusing on education a basis for wanting TJ closed? Your post doesn't make sense.

Blacks focus too much on becoming the next Lebron, the next MJ, the next Deion Sanders, the next RG3, rapper, sports agent, basketball summer league organizer, etc.

Please let Neil deGrasse Tyson know your views. You can tweet to him @neiltyson

https://twitter.com/neiltyson

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of the reasons that Asians in the US are overrepresented in academic achievements is because you have a unbalanced sample set. The majority of the Asians who come to the US do so to come for college, graduate school or to accept high tech or otherwise highly skilled positions. It is very difficult for Asians to emigrate to the US except for academic reasons. Many other races have alternative means of emigrating to the US, but education and highly skilled positions are the vast majority of the opportunities for Asians. So, you have an exceptionally highly intelligent subset of Asians that become US immigrants and end up staying in the US. The average and even slightly above average Asian students don't come to the US. These Asians then breed offspring who tend to be more intelligent than average for their race. That plus most Asian cultures stress academic achievement as a standard make them more competitive in academic situations.

The reason that TJ and selective schools tend to be overrepresented vs other public schools is that Asians place such a high stress on education that many of them will try to send their children to advance or magnet programs even if they have to move to do so and fewer leave their children in public schools, so you have a higher percentage of the Asian population going to select schools leaving fewer in the public school system.

Actually many Asians come to US based on family connections more so than based on employment. In addition, Asians who come to US on student visas to attend colleges/graduate schools are on temporary visas so they must leave US once schooling is complete unless they are offered permanent positions and offer of permanent employment is not that common due to their lack of permanent resident status/citizenship/clearance etc.

As for relocating, that may happen in some cases but it is not common due to high cost and other issues such as obtaining new jobs etc. with relocating.

In my experience (my parents are Asians who came over in the 1950's), many of the Asians who come over for family connections do so for education and are sponsored by the family members. They come to attend school here and stay and they do tend to be among the cream of the crop. I've seen many, many families where the smartest of the cousins comes to the US and are sponsored by the one family member who came over in the previous generation (the uncle or aunt). That family member sponsors them, they study and they stay and they end up sponsoring the next of the cousins/nieces/nephews who will come over. So your two categories, those with family connections and those coming for education include a largely overlapping subset of the more intelligent members of large families who can stay beyond student visas. I've personally seen hundreds of such candidates.

Even the broke Asians that come over here focus on education.

It's interesting, but no one wants to admit it. Asians focus on education to get ahead and hope their kids have a better life.

Blacks and Hispanics focus less on education and instead, complain to the man that they are being held back.

Blacks should have an advantage over other minorities because they actually spoke the English language, but someone that language has evolved into ebonics.

So much ignorance in your post. How I wish TJ were closed, so that people like you would have one less soapbox from which to expound your misguided theories about Asian superiority.

How is saying Asians focus on education compared to other groups expounding Asian superiority? How is focusing on education a basis for wanting TJ closed? Your post doesn't make sense.

Blacks focus too much on becoming the next Lebron, the next MJ, the next Deion Sanders, the next RG3, rapper, sports agent, basketball summer league organizer, etc.

Please let Neil deGrasse Tyson know your views. You can tweet to him @neiltyson

https://twitter.com/neiltyson

Why should anyone care what this person thinks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of the reasons that Asians in the US are overrepresented in academic achievements is because you have a unbalanced sample set. The majority of the Asians who come to the US do so to come for college, graduate school or to accept high tech or otherwise highly skilled positions. It is very difficult for Asians to emigrate to the US except for academic reasons. Many other races have alternative means of emigrating to the US, but education and highly skilled positions are the vast majority of the opportunities for Asians. So, you have an exceptionally highly intelligent subset of Asians that become US immigrants and end up staying in the US. The average and even slightly above average Asian students don't come to the US. These Asians then breed offspring who tend to be more intelligent than average for their race. That plus most Asian cultures stress academic achievement as a standard make them more competitive in academic situations.

The reason that TJ and selective schools tend to be overrepresented vs other public schools is that Asians place such a high stress on education that many of them will try to send their children to advance or magnet programs even if they have to move to do so and fewer leave their children in public schools, so you have a higher percentage of the Asian population going to select schools leaving fewer in the public school system.

Actually many Asians come to US based on family connections more so than based on employment. In addition, Asians who come to US on student visas to attend colleges/graduate schools are on temporary visas so they must leave US once schooling is complete unless they are offered permanent positions and offer of permanent employment is not that common due to their lack of permanent resident status/citizenship/clearance etc.

As for relocating, that may happen in some cases but it is not common due to high cost and other issues such as obtaining new jobs etc. with relocating.

In my experience (my parents are Asians who came over in the 1950's), many of the Asians who come over for family connections do so for education and are sponsored by the family members. They come to attend school here and stay and they do tend to be among the cream of the crop. I've seen many, many families where the smartest of the cousins comes to the US and are sponsored by the one family member who came over in the previous generation (the uncle or aunt). That family member sponsors them, they study and they stay and they end up sponsoring the next of the cousins/nieces/nephews who will come over. So your two categories, those with family connections and those coming for education include a largely overlapping subset of the more intelligent members of large families who can stay beyond student visas. I've personally seen hundreds of such candidates.

Even the broke Asians that come over here focus on education.

It's interesting, but no one wants to admit it. Asians focus on education to get ahead and hope their kids have a better life.

Blacks and Hispanics focus less on education and instead, complain to the man that they are being held back.

Blacks should have an advantage over other minorities because they actually spoke the English language, but someone that language has evolved into ebonics.

So much ignorance in your post. How I wish TJ were closed, so that people like you would have one less soapbox from which to expound your misguided theories about Asian superiority.

How is saying Asians focus on education compared to other groups expounding Asian superiority? How is focusing on education a basis for wanting TJ closed? Your post doesn't make sense.

Blacks focus too much on becoming the next Lebron, the next MJ, the next Deion Sanders, the next RG3, rapper, sports agent, basketball summer league organizer, etc.

Not the Caribbean and African blacks. In fact most blacks at TJ are either Caribbean or African blacks,

[Anonymous]

Part of it is almost certainly cultural. I want my smart, high a heaving 6th grader to do well. But, as a third generation Jewish American, I know that there is plenty of time to excel. She can go to a great school from our base HS. And, if you are going to science, guess what? Where you go to college does not matter...grad school matters.

I do not want my dd commuting 1 hr each way, having 4-6 hrs of hw per night.

By comparison, high achieving people in India or Korea have success defined by admittance to the right hs...rejected for the top hs, and your chance at a high achieving life is much lower.

[Anonymous]

oh boy, never knew it would become such a big debate if more focus is given on education.

those who care about education, obviously will give more focus.

asians don't care about sports, so most of the asian kids stay away from sports after certain grade to focus more on education/higher studies.

believe me, they do put so much effort and sacrifice so much.

there can be only one LeBron, MJ, Tiger Woods, RG3.... They are unique in their own way. Not everyone can become like one of these. There are millions of people get ruined in their life just trying to become one of these or similar sports people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I think they should make TJ all Asian.

I love you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was looking at the statistics for the TJ admissions this year. Why is the racial/ethnic makeup so much different from that of Fairfax County, and neighboring counties, as a whole? I do not believe any one particular race is smarter than another, so please don't tell me that. I don't think one race tries harder than another race either. But it is quite obvious that certain segments of our society are under-represented, and the trend looks to be getting worse. Why is this happenning?

OP does not seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. That's one less kid to get into TJ!