So many minorities in the government

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Anonymous wrote:If honky is not used, is cracker the right term?

U need to step away from the keyboard. Just for the record, most black folk use the term "white people"... Enough said
Trust !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, are you also concerned that there are too many minorities at your waterpark? Because that South Park episode was all that I could think of upon seeing the ridiculous title of your post.

Never saw it. But now that you mention it, damn you!

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Anonymous wrote:It's not racist to acknowledge that the government has hiring preferences for minorities. My husband, who has been a senior government employee, has been told multiple times that positions are reserved for women and minorities. Luckily, he is in the private sector and thriving well. When the government people contact him asking for suggestions for possible appointees, though, they now almost always specify they are seeking women and minorities. I am all for diversity, but this has really gone too far.

I am a federal employee (caucasian) and have worked for the Federal Government for twenty years. When we needed a new professional in my unit, we were always told first to look for a minority. Well, that was fine, but in my very specialized field, there aren't that many who applied for the jobs open.

I have also noted that when a problem employee, who is a minority (AA in both cases in my iexperience) is disruptive and/or a poor performer (drugging and getting drunk at work, leaves for very lengthy periods of time during the day leaving the work undone), we are encouraged NOT to take action. Essentially, I was told "don't go there" because the agency didn't want to deal with any sort of charge of discrimination. So, the offender was just allowed to continue the poor work habits and destructive behavior in the unit. Very demoralizing.

Does being a minority under the EEO laws give you the right to act like a fool?

This happens across the board. Your experience just happens to be two AAs. Please don't act as though Blacks are the only poor performers and the only ones who allege discriminatory and hostile work environments. I have had to entertain and defend EEO cases filed by a white man who claimed his white supervisors discriminated against him because of his national origin (Italian). I've had a complaint involving a white woman who once disciplined complained of sex and age discrimination. An American born Black man who complained that his Black supervisor only promoted Black Caribbean Americans. An Indian American man who alleged discrimination because of his race and national origin. He could not get promoted to a supervisory position because clients had a difficult time communicating with him.

The way your office handled poor performance is indicative of how ineffective the office operates. I am sure the two individuals you singled out were not the only poor performers. But, interesting enough, they are the only two you noticed.

What portion of the claims you defend are brought by white men? By white people regardless of gender?. By African Americans? By Asians

Largest percentage of complainants overall have been women - black, white annd a few hispanic.

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Anonymous wrote:How can a white woman get a government job?

So because you're a white woman you think you deserve a government job??? You are really reinforcing the whole white people being entitled thing right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I interned at the EPA in the 90s (long time ago I know). Almost all of the support staff was black. As a general rule, they did nothing all day. If you asked them to fax or fed ex something, they looked like you like you had two heads. Now, that said, the lawyers worked their asses off (and were very diverse, all races and religions), so this is not a racial thing but an employment/union thing. It was pathetic.

So, the lawyers sent their own faxes and Fed Ex shipments?

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The folks up in arms on this thread are hilarious. By and large, black people hold admin positions in the government. To pretend that you're salivating over making copies is laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:I interned at the EPA in the 90s (long time ago I know). Almost all of the support staff was black. As a general rule, they did nothing all day. If you asked them to fax or fed ex something, they looked like you like you had two heads. Now, that said, the lawyers worked their asses off (and were very diverse, all races and religions), so this is not a racial thing but an employment/union thing. It was pathetic.

So, the lawyers sent their own faxes and Fed Ex shipments?

yep. and the admin talked on the phone with their friends all day.

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Anonymous wrote:My fed organization, DoD, federal procurement field, is largely African-American. The hiring managers are AA and they tend to hire other AAs. Many of them are in the same fraternities and sororities, hiring those from their same houses. It is sad, because we are not hiring based on merit.

White folks have been doing this for decades. When I'm interviewing with a white person I already know my chances of getting the job are slim and I'm usually right. I've been told I do a great job at interviewing, have tons of useful skills and am highly educated but in my experience whites want to hire their own hence why Affirmative Action is a necessity.

Back when it was easier to get folks in that you know, I worked in a division at one agency, where out of maybe 200 people there were only 3 or 4 minorities because it was just white folks hiring in their friends and family. My white female boss along with her husband and neighbors all worked in the same division.

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Anonymous wrote:I interned at the EPA in the 90s (long time ago I know). Almost all of the support staff was black. As a general rule, they did nothing all day. If you asked them to fax or fed ex something, they looked like you like you had two heads. Now, that said, the lawyers worked their asses off (and were very diverse, all races and religions), so this is not a racial thing but an employment/union thing. It was pathetic.

So, the lawyers sent their own faxes and Fed Ex shipments?

yep. and the admin talked on the phone with their friends all day.

You're either lying or exaggerating.

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Anonymous wrote:My fed organization, DoD, federal procurement field, is largely African-American. The hiring managers are AA and they tend to hire other AAs. Many of them are in the same fraternities and sororities, hiring those from their same houses. It is sad, because we are not hiring based on merit.

White folks have been doing this for decades. When I'm interviewing with a white person I already know my chances of getting the job are slim and I'm usually right. I've been told I do a great job at interviewing, have tons of useful skills and am highly educated but in my experience whites want to hire their own hence why Affirmative Action is a necessity.

Back when it was easier to get folks in that you know, I worked in a division at one agency, where out of maybe 200 people there were only 3 or 4 minorities because it was just white folks hiring in their friends and family. My white female boss along with her husband and neighbors all worked in the same division.

Now there are more minorities but the majority of the top jobs are held by whites.

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Anonymous wrote:I interned at the EPA in the 90s (long time ago I know). Almost all of the support staff was black. As a general rule, they did nothing all day. If you asked them to fax or fed ex something, they looked like you like you had two heads. Now, that said, the lawyers worked their asses off (and were very diverse, all races and religions), so this is not a racial thing but an employment/union thing. It was pathetic.

So, the lawyers sent their own faxes and Fed Ex shipments?

yep. and the admin talked on the phone with their friends all day.

You're either lying or exaggerating.

Same thing in my agency. The attorneys couldn't get the support staff to do much of anything when they were not talking to their buddies on the phone. Attorneys just wrote their own memos and letters and sent out their own mail.

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Anonymous wrote:I interned at the EPA in the 90s (long time ago I know). Almost all of the support staff was black. As a general rule, they did nothing all day. If you asked them to fax or fed ex something, they looked like you like you had two heads. Now, that said, the lawyers worked their asses off (and were very diverse, all races and religions), so this is not a racial thing but an employment/union thing. It was pathetic.

So, the lawyers sent their own faxes and Fed Ex shipments?

yep. and the admin talked on the phone with their friends all day.

You're either lying or exaggerating.

Same thing in my agency. The attorneys couldn't get the support staff to do much of anything when they were not talking to their buddies on the phone. Attorneys just wrote their own memos and letters and sent out their own mail.

Well then the attorneys are spineless morons who are the butt of lawyer jokes.

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Anonymous wrote:How can a white woman get a government job?

Got to be the dumbest fucking question I've ever heard.
How can a Hindu get a government job?
How can a guy with male-pattern-baldness get a job?
How can a homosexual get a government job?

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Anonymous wrote:I interned at the EPA in the 90s (long time ago I know). Almost all of the support staff was black. As a general rule, they did nothing all day. If you asked them to fax or fed ex something, they looked like you like you had two heads. Now, that said, the lawyers worked their asses off (and were very diverse, all races and religions), so this is not a racial thing but an employment/union thing. It was pathetic.

So, the lawyers sent their own faxes and Fed Ex shipments?

yep. and the admin talked on the phone with their friends all day.

You're either lying or exaggerating.

Not PP but clearly you have been fortunate not to have encountered these types of employees.

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Anonymous wrote:I interned at the EPA in the 90s (long time ago I know). Almost all of the support staff was black. As a general rule, they did nothing all day. If you asked them to fax or fed ex something, they looked like you like you had two heads. Now, that said, the lawyers worked their asses off (and were very diverse, all races and religions), so this is not a racial thing but an employment/union thing. It was pathetic.

So, the lawyers sent their own faxes and Fed Ex shipments?

yep. and the admin talked on the phone with their friends all day.

You're either lying or exaggerating.

Same thing in my agency. The attorneys couldn't get the support staff to do much of anything when they were not talking to their buddies on the phone. Attorneys just wrote their own memos and letters and sent out their own mail.

+2 Same thing in my agency too. We now only have one admin for maybe 50 people. Everyone just does their own filing and fedexing. Sort of a waste of a GS 15 to spend days filing, but whatever.