Cities you don’t want your kids to live in

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Anonymous wrote:Red states, especially in the South are off the table. I don’t want DD to end up in prison after a bad pregnancy.

DD doesn’t like Chicago or NYC. So I’m letting her pick where she likes.

Dumb question but: if a female has a drivers license and doctor in let's call it a blue state, then what difference would it make to travel back to said home and doctor for treatment. Are we now thinking that someone (who?) would be monitoring or questioning where a conception event took place? How would that be proven - An interrogation as to whereabouts on days surrounding the estimated date of conception? On what basis is anyone concluding that all of this investigation would take place?

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Anonymous wrote:Based upon whether YOU would like to visit there?

Of course not.

(Just asking the question says something really bad about your self-centeredness and lack of self-awareness. )

Want to visit there? I'm considered a criminal but I say to my son "It's fine you go to college in that state even though that state considers your mother to be a homicidal maniac". No thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:No red states, including any cities within

Right on cue, the nutter arrives.

Maybe her daughter needs regular abortions lol

NP. It's not really a laughing matter, because women in some of those states are dying. There are multiple health complications that can arise in a system prioritizing a potentially viable pregnancy over the life of a woman, independent of that woman seeking an abortion. Even if you feel a college student with an outside support network is unlikely to be affected, you can't judge a parent for choosing to avoid that out of caution or out of principle.

Do you love abortions?

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My kid strongly considered Loyola Chicago. But most of the classes for her intended major would be held downtown, whereas the dorms, dining hall, etc. were all on the "regular" campus on the far north side of the city. We didn't forbid it, per se, but did encourage her to think strongly about the logistics of that and pointed out the pitfalls. Compared to the average college where your classes are all right there on campus, having to plan out your days around a commute to class via shuttle (up to 45 minutes during rush hour) or public transit (30 minutes, but the Red Line can be kinda sketchy at night) is a PITA. Especially for this kid, who grew up in a pretty compact suburb of MD where most of her day to day world (school, friends houses, hangout spots, practices, etc.) was within a few mile radius and very easily accessible. In other words, not a kid that was used to say, taking public transportation to school or having to plan out her life based on a longer commute.

She easily agreed with us, FWIW ("Yeah, you're right, that does sound annoying...")

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Anonymous wrote:No red states, including any cities within

Right on cue, the nutter arrives.

Maybe her daughter needs regular abortions lol

NP. It's not really a laughing matter, because women in some of those states are dying. There are multiple health complications that can arise in a system prioritizing a potentially viable pregnancy over the life of a woman, independent of that woman seeking an abortion. Even if you feel a college student with an outside support network is unlikely to be affected, you can't judge a parent for choosing to avoid that out of caution or out of principle.

Do you love abortions?

How did that miscarriage go for you? How about that IVF procedure? What about that pregnancy due to rape? How was that for you?

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How's Tulane and that area New Orleans? Not talking 9th ward or anything.

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Anonymous wrote:I strongly encourage kids to leave their comfort zone when going to college (within reason - I'm not sending my Jewish kid to Liberty or a Catholic kid to Yeshiva). It is part of the experience. I spent most of my life in and around NYC and know too many people who have never left the northeast corridor so have a very provincial view of the world.

And there are way too many people in the rest of America who are afraid of us northerners and the "big bad cities" and would be well served to spend some time in one of these places rather than going from their youth in small town Texas to Texas A&M for college.

Agreed. And FWIW, most people on this board seemed to be absolutely terrified of the South, not the North.

And as someone who was born and raised in the South, and now lives in a NE metro area, I am 100% certain that "y'all" are as geographically prejudiced as any small town Texan.

Informed, intelligent people are generally less prejudiced than isolated, ignorant people. And that runs both ways on Interstate 95

Amen. This is why professional firms like hiring well-educated southerners, regardless of where they get their degrees. They don’t have to teach them manners. Or, apparently, broader-mindedness. (Same is generally true midwesterners and westerners.). It is pretty obvious who has lived in many places around the U.S., and who has not. It erodes provincialism of every stripe.

I grew up in the North, I went to college in the North, I went to grad school in the South, I have lived in the deep South, I married a Southerner, and I now live in one of the few Southern states that's not MAGA.

I agree Northerners can be provincial and have weird stereotypes about Southerners. I have seen that. But it is just a fact now that most Southern states are out there in very extreme ways. No way would I want my daughter there right now. She went North for college with my full support.

+1, tired of these holier than thou comments about how southerners are just unfairly judged. The state politics are whacko and people there generally don’t respect education, don’t care about the gross inequality or limitations on rights, and just care that taxes are low.

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Anonymous wrote:How's Tulane and that area New Orleans? Not talking 9th ward or anything.

DD attended, and we all loved it. It's bordered on one side by the beautiful St. Charles Avenue, with the iconic streetcars, on the other with the arguably sketchy S. Claiborne Street. Never had any problems. Garden District is very nice with amazing food. Students usually stay around Magazine Street, and aren't frequently going to the French Quarter, although it's quite fun to go for brunch during the day. Love Audubon Park and surrounding areas. Really miss having an excuse to go back and visit frequently!

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth, Williams, Cornell and the likes were crossed off my kid's list because she didn't want rural.

Your kid has never experienced rural and wants to stick to what they know.
Good to try something completely different

She could try roughing it in rural Ithaca.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want them to live anywhere they can't get an abortion.

NP. I’ve never understood this thinking because at this point as teens, I hope they can come and talk to us about anything and would not want them to hide it from us and go through this alone. And I would pay for them to fly anywhere if they couldn’t get one in their current city. I don’t want my kids making college decisions based on this.

But I do want them to have decent access to overall health care. I grew up in a small town and it was lacking. So I think it is important to have medical care and easy access to an airport. I would not stop them from attending any school unless we couldn’t afford it.

The argument I am going to make is admittedly a bit exaggerated, so don't jump all over me and take it with a grain of salt: states that are limiting abortions are also interfering with the way OB/GYNs do their jobs. If they practice medicine the way they were taught in any decent medical school and residency, there is a chance some legislator with zero medical knowledge is going to try to arrest them for using their best medical judgement in the treatment of a patient. Who wants to practice medicine in a state of fear?

As a result, OB/GYNs are less willing to practice in these states. I'm not saying that a bunch of 45 year old OB/GYNs with homes and families are picking up their families and leaving. But there will be a gradual reduction in the number of them there. So it will be harder to find good doctors to provide basic services. This isn't just about abortion - it is about secondary and tertiary effects of the decision.

Is this a driving, #1 reason in the decision making process for a kid going to college next year? Probably not. But it should be a consideration that is factored in.

Women have been denied health care in some states. Some have died. Some are charged with murder for have miscarriages. Some states want to charge people with murder for leaving to get an abortion. It's valid and sensible to include this in decision making.

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The exodus of quality healthcare from certain states with abortion bans is already underway. Entirely predictable.

https://time.com/7317385/abortion-bans-doctors-residency-match/

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Anonymous wrote:As a Michigan alumnus, I told my kid I won't pay for college if he applies to Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Michigan State. She didn't. Silly, I know.

I get this. I told my kid he can't go to Michigan. (We're Ohio State in this house.)

... but I didn't really mean it. He could have picked Michigan and he knows that. It just would have changed dynamics as we watch The Game!

(He's a Buckeye now.)

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Detroit-Chicago-Indianapolis-St Louis -- that whole upper Midwest area is a huge dead zone. Why go to college there if everyone of means has absolutely zero interest of living in that region? It's pointless. That region is never coming back, no matter how what the woke press claims.

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Anonymous wrote:How's Tulane and that area New Orleans? Not talking 9th ward or anything.

Everyone I know who went to Tulane binge drank and/or snorted their way through college and literally never went back to NO. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:No red states, including any cities within

Right on cue, the nutter arrives.

Maybe her daughter needs regular abortions lol

NP. It's not really a laughing matter, because women in some of those states are dying. There are multiple health complications that can arise in a system prioritizing a potentially viable pregnancy over the life of a woman, independent of that woman seeking an abortion. Even if you feel a college student with an outside support network is unlikely to be affected, you can't judge a parent for choosing to avoid that out of caution or out of principle.

Do you love abortions?

How did that miscarriage go for you? How about that IVF procedure? What about that pregnancy due to rape? How was that for you?

I’ll ask again. Do you love abortions?