East coast bubble views are hard for me to listen to as a ‘fly over’ state transplant

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Anonymous wrote:I am very sus of states that voted for Trump with 60+ percent of the vote. I can’t help it.

Let me guess, you consider yourself “open minded?”

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100 years ago in the Midwest ppl farmed. The women in my family made high calorie food so the guys could quickly eat and get back to chores or farming. Cream went everything. Flavoring and spices were hard to come by considering they were far away from the coasts. I’m guessing that’s how ppl grew up and everyone cooks like their grandmother, if they cook at all.
Good food exists here because of immigrants bringing it in.
Every Mexican restaurant doesn’t really cook Mexican but a dialed down Northern European version of it.
No one cares.

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Anonymous wrote:I left DC to move to a flyover state for work. Generally, it’s awesome here. And I love DC too. While I miss a lot about DC, I don’t miss the elite attitudes. The “I’m better than the masses” vibe and that the people who live in areas other than the coasts are idiots. I don’t miss that at all. But if I did miss, DCUM is always there to remind me.

Same here only to rural eastern NC, which getsa the same disrespect 'flyover' areas do.

I couldn't be happier. The people are the kindesat you'd ever meet and extremely generous. IDGAF that they voted for Trump. Theses are rule following goos manners people. I was gone until late last night and when I came home my 200 yard gravel drive way and been scraped and leveled. My neigbors was too so I texted him. His response? " Well, I was already doing mine so I thought I might as well do yours too! Should be good for another 5 years."

That's just the type of people we have down here. Good luck finding that attitude in Arlington.

I’m in Arlington and we all pitch in on our block. We have porch parties, bring in each others’ mail etc. when someone is traveling, shovel the older people’s driveways, share tools, etc. Sorry you didn’t have that ecperience but many of my friends in ARL have experienced the same. When I lived in Upstate NY my neighbors told my not to sell to black people.

+1. I have a great community in my DC suburb, but I grew up in rural Eastern NC and watched the "kind of people we have down there" do some of the most awful things you can imagine. There's good people everywhere and evil people everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:The food in the Midwest sucks because it’s based on the bland flavors of Northern Europe ..German, Dutch etc and basic American food. Hamburgers, hotdogs and beer are really the best food there. Salt and butter are the main seasonings. Celebratory meals are cooked in a crockpot.

There are so many fantastic regional and sub regional cuisines in the US west, south, east coast and coastal areas. The Midwest is not one of them! Even immigrant communities that open restaurants in that area have to severely tone down and Americanize their dishes if their own communities aren’t large enough to sustain their business.

Yep yep and yep. The coasts have lots of great food because of the influx of immigrants over many decades. And the birth of California cuisine and its evolution in the 1970s-1990s. Much of the Midwest did not adopt this (except maybe little pockets of the major cities) and I can say the stereotype of Midwesterners making casseroles, eating heavy food, using canned vegetables and soups is not untrue.

That’s because of climate and economics more than anything else.

Every large and medium city in flyover has great food and has for years. Minnesota has very sophisticated Vietnamese, Thai etc. Of course smaller less populated areas don’t but that’s true of almost any smaller community, including coastal states. Have you ever eaten in upstate NY?

We are from upstate NY and the food is so much better than here. Why are the food and restaurants so bad in the DC area? 20+ years later and it’s the thing we miss the most when we go back to visit.

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Anonymous wrote:I moved to the east coast 20 years ago but I’m still bothered by all the stray insults I hear from my ‘liberal’ friends about the ‘flyover states’ which they assume are full of uncultured idiots. For the most past, they’ve never visited these places. I had lunch with a friend this week and she made comments like this ‘I can’t help it, those places are awful, I’m a proud snob, I like art and culture and education’ - as if others don’t? We also discussed politics, taxes, etc and even though she claims to be a socialist leaning Dem, she noted that she has ‘carefully saved and invested and why should I need to support others who haven’t been as careful?’ Meanwhile she has only worked intermittently her entire adult life, spends lavishly much of the time, and primarily lives from her now ex husbands money.

She talks a lot about how terrible Trump is and how he needs to be stopped. I noted that it seems to be people from a flyover state who are out on the streets more than where we live…

How do you deal with snobby clueless people like this? Any good comebacks?

And no, slow fade isn’t a good response. If I slow faded everyone who bugs me af times, I wouldn’t have any friends!

What a weird hodgepodge of fantasy scenarios that never happened. People don’t talk this way.

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Anonymous wrote:I am very sus of states that voted for Trump with 60+ percent of the vote. I can’t help it.

Let me guess, you consider yourself “open minded?”

+1

The intolerance of the left is astounding. The only more astonishing thing is how they zero sense of self-reflection or awareness as to their intolerance.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, I live in flyover country now but was born in CA and lived in MoCo twice for a total of 8 years.

It's nice here. There is enough high culture. DMV people are trying to get into my flagship alma mater.

But some of them want me to get off this board and have said so. Those people also think the NYCers are ruining the college forum because their top privates have different strategies and results than DC privates. I think that's funny. They are not even tolerant of fellow East Coasters. If they were more careful readers and question-askers they would be fine.

One thing I can say is true is that establishment elites with their free market globalist tendencies did a lot of damage to Rust Belt communities. They thought globalization was great and protectionism was a big mistake. They thought it was fine to send a lot of US industry and jobs off-shore. Because they were thinking with their wallets and not about people's lives and community wellbeing. Their policies were basically economic enshittification.

And now the insanity of the Trump administration is the harsh political consequence. Incoherent protectionism, hatred towards diverse groups, etc. To me it's mostly an antagonistic reaction to decades of economic policies that benefitted wealthy coastal elites. The owner class. To fix things, we need to go back towards policies that ensure the true middle class succeeds (UMC is fine under Trump).

My flyover county is actually skewing more Democrat now. It used to be centrist Republican.

Agree with this 1000%.

-- from flyover state but have lived here for 40 years

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Anonymous wrote:The food in the Midwest sucks because it’s based on the bland flavors of Northern Europe ..German, Dutch etc and basic American food. Hamburgers, hotdogs and beer are really the best food there. Salt and butter are the main seasonings. Celebratory meals are cooked in a crockpot.

There are so many fantastic regional and sub regional cuisines in the US west, south, east coast and coastal areas. The Midwest is not one of them! Even immigrant communities that open restaurants in that area have to severely tone down and Americanize their dishes if their own communities aren’t large enough to sustain their business.

Yep yep and yep. The coasts have lots of great food because of the influx of immigrants over many decades. And the birth of California cuisine and its evolution in the 1970s-1990s. Much of the Midwest did not adopt this (except maybe little pockets of the major cities) and I can say the stereotype of Midwesterners making casseroles, eating heavy food, using canned vegetables and soups is not untrue.

So you think the Midwest doesn’t have a lot of immigrants? You ever been to the Midwest?

Yes, I live in the Midwest and spend a lot of time in 4 midwestern states. Sibling lives in another Midwestern state I’ve never been to.

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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself why her ignorant comments bug you so much. Look, I get it. I am from a flyover state as well and have heard "East Coast bubble" types say some pretty ridiculous things. Of course, flyover people often have their own stereotyped views of "coastal elites" as well. I would just roll my eyes and point out why she is wrong if she says something really egregious.

This. I'm from a flyover state that has turned (mostly outside a couple of the cities) increasingly more ignorant and Red. But, whatever, that's fine. And I will absolutely say that those places are flyover referenced for a reason. Is it universally true? OFC not. But it's a stereotype rooted in some truth.

And lbh, those "real americans" don't think twice about sneering or mocking the coastal elites or whatever. So you can point your finger back at them. Though I suspect you don't.

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Anonymous wrote:I am very sus of states that voted for Trump with 60+ percent of the vote. I can’t help it.

Let me guess, you consider yourself “open minded?”

+1

The intolerance of the left is astounding. The only more astonishing thing is how they zero sense of self-reflection or awareness as to their intolerance.

Oh please. The intolerance of my rust belt hometown is still - 50 years later- appalling. Not even veiled intolerance. It's right in the open. At least we don't have an armed gestapo illegally attacking american citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very sus of states that voted for Trump with 60+ percent of the vote. I can’t help it.

Let me guess, you consider yourself “open minded?”

+1

The intolerance of the left is astounding. The only more astonishing thing is how they zero sense of self-reflection or awareness as to their intolerance.

Leftist “intolerance” doesn’t result in you getting lynched or disappeared to a third world prison, but thanks for playing

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from a fly over state and always bond with other fly over state transplants in making fun of our states and hometowns. The blah food, no art or culture, everything football or baseball, bad hair, obesity, constantly glued to TVs, regressive views and low education. As a GenX, the difference between fly over states and a large coastal city was enormous. The gap may not be as bad now with more immigrant communities and younger people moving into cities in some fly over places.

Some areas are becoming much more interesting like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota. If you changed the culture, states like Tennessee, and Kentucky have some really nice landscapes. Ohio and Indiana are mostly armpits. I don’t know how you do anything with Kansas, Nebraska or
Iowa. Missouri and Arkansas will never dig out of poverty and meth addiction.

OP..here is a flyover fool ripping on other flyover states. So she is worse than the east coast people you reference.

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Anonymous wrote:I am very sus of states that voted for Trump with 60+ percent of the vote. I can’t help it.

Let me guess, you consider yourself “open minded?”

But, of course!

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Anonymous wrote:The food in the Midwest sucks because it’s based on the bland flavors of Northern Europe ..German, Dutch etc and basic American food. Hamburgers, hotdogs and beer are really the best food there. Salt and butter are the main seasonings. Celebratory meals are cooked in a crockpot.

There are so many fantastic regional and sub regional cuisines in the US west, south, east coast and coastal areas. The Midwest is not one of them! Even immigrant communities that open restaurants in that area have to severely tone down and Americanize their dishes if their own communities aren’t large enough to sustain their business.

Yep yep and yep. The coasts have lots of great food because of the influx of immigrants over many decades. And the birth of California cuisine and its evolution in the 1970s-1990s. Much of the Midwest did not adopt this (except maybe little pockets of the major cities) and I can say the stereotype of Midwesterners making casseroles, eating heavy food, using canned vegetables and soups is not untrue.

So you think the Midwest doesn’t have a lot of immigrants? You ever been to the Midwest?

+1. So many immigrants have moved to these places…

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from a fly over state and always bond with other fly over state transplants in making fun of our states and hometowns. The blah food, no art or culture, everything football or baseball, bad hair, obesity, constantly glued to TVs, regressive views and low education. As a GenX, the difference between fly over states and a large coastal city was enormous. The gap may not be as bad now with more immigrant communities and younger people moving into cities in some fly over places.

Some areas are becoming much more interesting like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota. If you changed the culture, states like Tennessee, and Kentucky have some really nice landscapes. Ohio and Indiana are mostly armpits. I don’t know how you do anything with Kansas, Nebraska or
Iowa. Missouri and Arkansas will never dig out of poverty and meth addiction.

OP..here is a flyover fool ripping on other flyover states. So she is worse than the east coast people you reference.

She’s fake or hasn’t gone back in many years