East coast bubble views are hard for me to listen to as a ‘fly over’ state transplant

[Anonymous]

I mean, I live in Illinois and TBH I have encountered way more of the people your friend describes here than in New York or DC. There's also very little gaining knowledge for knowledge's sake. I'm learning French now (no specific practical application), and the attitude from random strangers has always been, "Um, WHY? Why would you learn French? It's useless." I was surprised, because I've always heard that Illinois and Michigan are the more cultured/intellectual flyover states. And yes, people are absolutely obsessed with football and unhealthy food.

[Anonymous]

I stopped reading your post halfway through. It’s overwrought and you’re taking it too personally. Use your grown up words with this person if it bothers you so much. Have a discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I loathe reading such complaints that generalize an experience and turn it into a screed against an entire group.

Don't you realize you're doing exactly what you're accusing your friend of doing? She's got something against flyover states and you've got something against east coast people. You deserve each other. You are associating with people like you.

Just stop and think about how you're writing your complaints. Don't generalize unthinkingly. And try and do better, and make better friends.

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[Anonymous]

That sucks op. I think you should tell them how you feel. I haven't ever been to the Midwest but I think people are probably nicer than here and have more heart. Im open to hearing about Midwest life if any Midwest people want to share. I have considered retirement to Indiana or Ohio but again haven't been yet but plan to visit. I don't judge anyone like that. Your friends shouldn't either.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, I live in Illinois and TBH I have encountered way more of the people your friend describes here than in New York or DC. There's also very little gaining knowledge for knowledge's sake. I'm learning French now (no specific practical application), and the attitude from random strangers has always been, "Um, WHY? Why would you learn French? It's useless." I was surprised, because I've always heard that Illinois and Michigan are the more cultured/intellectual flyover states. And yes, people are absolutely obsessed with football and unhealthy food.

It's awesome that you're learning French!

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Anonymous wrote:I moved to the east coast 20 years ago but I’m still bothered by all the stray insults I hear from my ‘liberal’ friends about the ‘flyover states’ which they assume are full of uncultured idiots. For the most past, they’ve never visited these places. I had lunch with a friend this week and she made comments like this ‘I can’t help it, those places are awful, I’m a proud snob, I like art and culture and education’ - as if others don’t? We also discussed politics, taxes, etc and even though she claims to be a socialist leaning Dem, she noted that she has ‘carefully saved and invested and why should I need to support others who haven’t been as careful?’ Meanwhile she has only worked intermittently her entire adult life, spends lavishly much of the time, and primarily lives from her now ex husbands money.

She talks a lot about how terrible Trump is and how he needs to be stopped. I noted that it seems to be people from a flyover state who are out on the streets more than where we live…

How do you deal with snobby clueless people like this? Any good comebacks?

And no, slow fade isn’t a good response. If I slow faded everyone who bugs me af times, I wouldn’t have any friends!

This was exactly my experience when I moved from the Midwest to the Boston area. Few Northeasterners have spent much time in the Midwest, but almost all think they know all about it.

Note that when there are questions on Jeopardy about flyover state geography or the Great Lakes, the coastal people usually have no clue.

You are generalizing in the same way, so I don't feel sorry for you one little bit, PP.

Nobody’s asking for pity. But it would be nice if people wouldn’t be so dismissive of whole regions about which they know almost nothing.

That also goes for people in rural states that like to criticize coastal “elites”.

Yeah, actually — I hear this a lot more than I hear anyone from the coasts bashing on “flyover” states.

Are you kidding? People use ‘flyover’ ALL THE TIME

[Anonymous]

The food in the Midwest sucks because it’s based on the bland flavors of Northern Europe ..German, Dutch etc and basic American food. Hamburgers, hotdogs and beer are really the best food there. Salt and butter are the main seasonings. Celebratory meals are cooked in a crockpot.

There are so many fantastic regional and sub regional cuisines in the US west, south, east coast and coastal areas. The Midwest is not one of them! Even immigrant communities that open restaurants in that area have to severely tone down and Americanize their dishes if their own communities aren’t large enough to sustain their business.

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Anonymous wrote:My favorite genre of this person (who usually but not always is a white or Asian unmarried woman) are the ones who think that living in DC is the height of sophistication and worldliness.

Once at work event one such person made a comment alluding to the bumpkins who reside in the MD/VA burbs, seemingly unaware that 95% of the people in earshot, including multiple partners, who those such people. It was amusing watching her career stall after that comment.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I stopped reading your post halfway through. It’s overwrought and you’re taking it too personally. Use your grown up words with this person if it bothers you so much. Have a discussion.

Lolz and yet you answered the OP. Way to show em, tough guy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like you're rage-baiting, OP. Most people are not like this. None of my progressive, educated, well-off, east coast friends behave like this.

OP, I completely understand (and agree with) what you are saying. I have similar experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped reading your post halfway through. It’s overwrought and you’re taking it too personally. Use your grown up words with this person if it bothers you so much. Have a discussion.

Lolz and yet you answered the OP. Way to show em, tough guy!

It was boring. What can I say? No toughness intended.

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Anonymous wrote:I am very sus of states that voted for Trump with 60+ percent of the vote. I can’t help it.

I once worked with someone who told me their family felt as if they were the only Democrats in Kentucky She was a lovely person and I was glad to know her. Don't dismiss people off-hand, PP.

I have many cousins and friends in flyover country who feel the same way, especially if they're rural.

[Anonymous]

She’s just a faux liberal blowhard. I bet she lives in a bougie neighborhood or sends her kids to private, but goes on and on about ICE, incarceration rates, allyship, etc.?

Most people around here aren’t true progressives. They’re middle of the road corporatist Democrats who spew the “right” talking points. Unless it’s about the rural poor. It’s ok to crap on them, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh these people are triggered because its them. Fellow Wisconsinte and lol yeah people are here are pretty delusional.

Lol yes, do better when judging extremely privileged people quick to throw out a generalization. You're so mean OP

There’s a reason my parents left Milwaukee in the 1960s to move to DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh these people are triggered because its them. Fellow Wisconsinte and lol yeah people are here are pretty delusional.

Lol yes, do better when judging extremely privileged people quick to throw out a generalization. You're so mean OP

There’s a reason my parents left Milwaukee in the 1960s to move to DC.

Dc or the burbs? And it was probably for work. Certainly not the culture in dc