The end of higher ed Diversity

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is just incredible to me as a Black woman. It represents what’s wrong with this country when it comes to race. The fact that you think that, given the history of this country, it is possible for a Black person to compete on a level playing field—no matter the income— is laughable. Even with affirmative action the playing field wasn’t level. Can you imagine how challenging and exhausting it is to EXIST on a college campus where you are 9% of the population? Can you imagine how challenging it is day in and day out to be the ONLY person who looks like you in your company? I’ve been in meetings where it’s me and 15 white guys and it is astounding. The fact that these students have attended and SUCCEEDED is a testament to their resilience, grit and intellect. But y’all keep thinking the way you do. And still I rise.

Blacks represent 13% of the U.S. population. If you're saying you can't be comfortable anywhere unless people that "look like you" constitute a majority, unfortunately it appears you will never be comfortable.

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Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.

As a black, I am offended by this term assimilation. If maga doesn’t like these schools, you can go to your Washington & Lee.

DP. Another black here. I can’t believe this term is still being publicly used today. Assimilation has been forced upon African Americans. This is certainly a racist term. No, it’s a racist practice on blacks for a long time.

You can assimilate as a black person yet still maintain your black identity. Really not that hard. Everyone doesn't have to be Carlton from Fresh Prince - agreed that is extreme. You can be Theo from Cosby who clearly was proud of his blackness but also fit in very well with all groups.

But you can just keep blaming everything on racism. Unfortunately, there is still way too much racism in the world. But this is not an example of it.

Holy smokes! You name check television characters??? When there are so, so many accomplished real people out there? Don't know any?

This is why these kids ought to be attending these schools. They are real. Carlton and Theo are not. SMH

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is just incredible to me as a Black woman. It represents what’s wrong with this country when it comes to race. The fact that you think that, given the history of this country, it is possible for a Black person to compete on a level playing field—no matter the income— is laughable. Even with affirmative action the playing field wasn’t level. Can you imagine how challenging and exhausting it is to EXIST on a college campus where you are 9% of the population? Can you imagine how challenging it is day in and day out to be the ONLY person who looks like you in your company? I’ve been in meetings where it’s me and 15 white guys and it is astounding. The fact that these students have attended and SUCCEEDED is a testament to their resilience, grit and intellect. But y’all keep thinking the way you do. And still I rise.

There was a time when asians were rare on some college campuses.
I was there then, and I did better than most students and while schools hadn't learned they needed to discriminate against asians in college admissions yet I needed a lot of aid and this school offered me a full ride.
It wasn't that challenging or exhausting, I was smarter than most of my fellow students so that probably helped. I can imagine it being isolating if I was a minority and everyone else was smarter than me because I got in under affirmative action.

I was the only asian in my company for a long time.
This was the 80s and there was casual racism but it wasn't crippling or anything.
I've been in many meetings where I was the only asian in the room but eventually they wanted someone that was competent over someone that was white..
NONE of those situations are challenging to the extent you dsescribe.

It's 2025, what racism exists is practically background noise.
It mostly exists in the news and on social media. You can function just fine in this country as a minority, even under this president.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is just incredible to me as a Black woman. It represents what’s wrong with this country when it comes to race. The fact that you think that, given the history of this country, it is possible for a Black person to compete on a level playing field—no matter the income— is laughable. Even with affirmative action the playing field wasn’t level. Can you imagine how challenging and exhausting it is to EXIST on a college campus where you are 9% of the population? Can you imagine how challenging it is day in and day out to be the ONLY person who looks like you in your company? I’ve been in meetings where it’s me and 15 white guys and it is astounding. The fact that these students have attended and SUCCEEDED is a testament to their resilience, grit and intellect. But y’all keep thinking the way you do. And still I rise.

You're not rising, you're wallowing.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is just incredible to me as a Black woman. It represents what’s wrong with this country when it comes to race. The fact that you think that, given the history of this country, it is possible for a Black person to compete on a level playing field—no matter the income— is laughable. Even with affirmative action the playing field wasn’t level. Can you imagine how challenging and exhausting it is to EXIST on a college campus where you are 9% of the population? Can you imagine how challenging it is day in and day out to be the ONLY person who looks like you in your company? I’ve been in meetings where it’s me and 15 white guys and it is astounding. The fact that these students have attended and SUCCEEDED is a testament to their resilience, grit and intellect. But y’all keep thinking the way you do. And still I rise.

By the same token, imagine how "challenging and exhausting" it must be to be the only white guy on an NBA basketball team.

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Anonymous wrote:We'll still have much greater diversity than most of other advanced countries in Europe or Asia.
No worries at all.

75% of NBA and 50% of NFL are Blacks.
If 50% of MIT or Stanford are Asians, no big deal.
Feed the best to any top field.

Athletic ability isn't like intellect. There's other things going on if you have a significant difference in your top colleges and the diversity of your country.

You are confusing cognitive ability and "intellect"

Cognitive ability is trainable much like proficiency with a sport. Some groups "train" more than others at academics.

Are you suggesting that Asians have a monopoly on raw iq? That just sounds...weirdly asian-centric and potentially a racist justification to explain something that's cultural. This reminds me way too much of anti-jewish conspiracies.

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Anonymous wrote:Massive drop in black student population at Princeton University: https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/09/princeton-news-stlife-five-percent-class-of-2029-identify-black-african-american

Was Princeton ever really popular with Black students?

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t get it. It’s 2025. Why does race-blind admissions not lead to a more balanced class naturally?

Why? Did schools become balanced when they decided on race-blind admissions?

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Anonymous wrote:Filtering for FGLI is going to pull in a lot of JD Vance-ish rural white kids and children of recent immigrants. It's not a panacea for filling the class with blacks.

FGLI smart students are not the hillbilly elegy writers. Many are progressive people who can’t stand the toxic MAGAT culture.

You have these MSNBC talking points pre programmed in your little brain, but they aren't relevant here. JD Vance was adduced above not for his politics, but for his whiteness. FGLI filtering is going to pull in a substantial number of whites and Asians alongside the real targets (blacks). It accomplishes the goal of skin color diversity less efficiently.

I need you to understand that there’s so many more progressive rural people going to an ivy than JD Vance. Why do you think he got so popular? He’s an anomaly.

I don't care if every admitted FGLI student is a card carrying DSA member. My point is, the number will include a substantial number of white and Asian kids alongside the URMs, so selecting for FGLI is inefficient from the school's point of view.

If you look at city school’s graduates you will see many new immigrant. FGLI students who are the valedictorians with quite a few more having the highest GPAs. They are from African, Caribbean, South American countries. Smart hardworking kids. The problems they have when they get to some of these colleges are they feel like they don’t fit in and they don’t have money. They’re surrounded by White American born kids who are comfortable, they have money, they know the culture, they know how to get by. The American born students aren’t as naturally intelligent as the low income first,generation kids but they have had all the help necessary to get where they are and they know how to continue to get that help.

It’s the same with any low income first generation kid.