Physical attraction at 60yo

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

These large gap marriages and relationships are often not stable. I have several examples of how much younger wives left, live their own life, don’t sleep with husbands, left when husband went sick, ask me to introduce them to young men to cheat etc.
My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

Maybe she has to scream because he can't hear?

How old is this child?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

These large gap marriages and relationships are often not stable. I have several examples of how much younger wives left, live their own life, don’t sleep with husbands, left when husband went sick, ask me to introduce them to young men to cheat etc.
My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

Maybe she has to scream because he can't hear?

How old is this child?

A teen. No, screaming is related to her being irritated by him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

These large gap marriages and relationships are often not stable. I have several examples of how much younger wives left, live their own life, don’t sleep with husbands, left when husband went sick, ask me to introduce them to young men to cheat etc.
My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

Maybe she has to scream because he can't hear?

How old is this child?

A teen. No, screaming is related to her being irritated by him.

Sounds like elder abuse.

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Anonymous wrote:My Dad, a widower, is 74 and he is very fit as he still competes in half iron man type events. He complains that most women age appropriate for him are out of shape with many having "given up". We've discussed him dating younger and since we have a 30 year age gap we jokingly agree that half that gap or 15 years (age 57+) would keep me from rolling my eyes.

Honestly I have never met a kind man who speaks of women “giving up.”

I wouldn’t say it to their faces but it you can easily observe women and men who have given up on their appearance. Reality is not “kind” but who said it has to be?

At 74, I think you can get a little more room on appearance. I feel sorry for those of you who disagree. Aging is going to be rough on your spirit.

You can still tell the difference between those who have given up and those who are still trying. I feel sorry for those of you who are too stupid to appreciate this.

I agree with you. Those who are trying, at any age, deserve a lot of credit. Too many people live an unhealthy lifestyle and just don’t seem to care. I have great admiration for people in their 60s and 70s who keep trying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My Dad, a widower, is 74 and he is very fit as he still competes in half iron man type events. He complains that most women age appropriate for him are out of shape with many having "given up". We've discussed him dating younger and since we have a 30 year age gap we jokingly agree that half that gap or 15 years (age 57+) would keep me from rolling my eyes.

Honestly I have never met a kind man who speaks of women “giving up.”

I wouldn’t say it to their faces but it you can easily observe women and men who have given up on their appearance. Reality is not “kind” but who said it has to be?

At 74, I think you can get a little more room on appearance. I feel sorry for those of you who disagree. Aging is going to be rough on your spirit.

You can still tell the difference between those who have given up and those who are still trying. I feel sorry for those of you who are too stupid to appreciate this.

I agree with you. Those who are trying, at any age, deserve a lot of credit. Too many people live an unhealthy lifestyle and just don’t seem to care. I have great admiration for people in their 60s and 70s who keep trying.

Good for you two for not having seen how the his goes. Frankly I’ve only heard the phrase from old entitled men who don’t like it when women age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My Dad, a widower, is 74 and he is very fit as he still competes in half iron man type events. He complains that most women age appropriate for him are out of shape with many having "given up". We've discussed him dating younger and since we have a 30 year age gap we jokingly agree that half that gap or 15 years (age 57+) would keep me from rolling my eyes.

Honestly I have never met a kind man who speaks of women “giving up.”

I wouldn’t say it to their faces but it you can easily observe women and men who have given up on their appearance. Reality is not “kind” but who said it has to be?

At 74, I think you can get a little more room on appearance. I feel sorry for those of you who disagree. Aging is going to be rough on your spirit.

You can still tell the difference between those who have given up and those who are still trying. I feel sorry for those of you who are too stupid to appreciate this.

I agree with you. Those who are trying, at any age, deserve a lot of credit. Too many people live an unhealthy lifestyle and just don’t seem to care. I have great admiration for people in their 60s and 70s who keep trying.

Good for you two for not having seen how the his goes. Frankly I’ve only heard the phrase from old entitled men who don’t like it when women age.

You’re the one who doesn’t see how it goes if you don’t notice that some older people take care of themselves and others don’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

[Steve2020]

Guy here, a potbelly can be reduced, or avoided, at any age.

Just because “the other guy” has one in late 50s, doesn’t mean he has to. Put in the effort, be the exception.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

This is somewhat the phenomenon of "LBH," losers back home. I mean there is something sad and pathetic about a man in his 60s ending a long term relationship with history and shared life experiences so that he can bang a young woman in his old age.

I think you're seeing a distorted view of Western men who move overseas. They simply have different options. But for people who don't move around the world to leverage their economic power, it doesn't work out like this.

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Anonymous wrote:I would kindly but firmly suggest a GLP-1. They work wonders and are perfect for this kind of situation.

Or eat less. Is it really so hard not to be a fat-ass? This is a cultural problem. Plenty of other highly developed countries don't have the rampant obesity we have, and it's not because they're all taking drugs. For some reason, Americans don't want to accept the basic, indisputable, extremely well established scientific fact that if you eat more calories than you burn, you will gain weight and that the only way to lose way in a stable, lasting way is to reduce your caloric intake below the amount you burn.

When a hundred million people are obese it’s not about self-control, it’s a policy choice:

- Subsidies for corn corn corn
- Spread out, disconnected communities that require cars instead of walking
- a work culture with long hours, long commutes, and limited vacations
- expensive healthcare that discourages people from regularly seeing their doctor and engaging in preventative care for hormonal and metabolic problems
- a lack of regulations on additives and sugar

If you have the bandwidth to be vigilant about your health good for you!

It’s also a factor of who could survive the Atlantic crossing and harsh conditions for colonists and immigrants — it genetically selected for population able to survive on less calories but means it is far easier to gain weight. Same thing happens on hunter gatherers societies when they adapt western diets.

[Anonymous]

Steve2020 wrote:Guy here, a potbelly can be reduced, or avoided, at any age.

Just because “the other guy” has one in late 50s, doesn’t mean he has to. Put in the effort, be the exception.

A late 40s woman here. I have no belly because I don’t overeat and exercise. To me a belly on a man is almost a poor hygiene or discipline. Women get their abdominals raptured by birth, it’s much much harder for us to stay in shape. If a man doesn’t put a similar effort to mine in his health and diet we are not a lifestyle or basic body hygiene match.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

The divorce rate suggests there is no reason for a man to believe a woman approximately your own age is going to stick around, either. If you're a geezer over 70 and you "only" get 5 or 10 years with a woman in her 30s, that goes in the WIN column even though she pulled the plug.

"An age gap marriage likely won't last!" - yeah neither will a no-age-gap marriage, statistically.

"Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions" - lmao that's why there are so many single moms and so many married women consumed with anger at their husbands, because women don't make dumb stupid decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

The divorce rate suggests there is no reason for a man to believe a woman approximately your own age is going to stick around, either. If you're a geezer over 70 and you "only" get 5 or 10 years with a woman in her 30s, that goes in the WIN column even though she pulled the plug.

"An age gap marriage likely won't last!" - yeah neither will a no-age-gap marriage, statistically.

"Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions" - lmao that's why there are so many single moms and so many married women consumed with anger at their husbands, because women don't make dumb stupid decisions.

1. 5-10 years of access to young body is not worth marriage. Well off men can get it anyway dating. Average man can’t anyway.

2. It’s untrue that divorce rates of 1st marriage are same as 2-3 marriages with larger age gaps. The smaller the age gap, the less chances of divorce and more stable life . There are stats for that

[Anonymous]

Larry Ellison wife #5 Nikita Kahn and #6 Jolin Zhu are the same age, 37 years younger. #5 met him when she was 19. He has 2 kids born 2016, 2018 with #6 (prior to divorce with #5) in addition to the older ones from wife #3.
He is a megabillionaire and works out, no potbelly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Larry Ellison wife #5 Nikita Kahn and #6 Jolin Zhu are the same age, 37 years younger. #5 met him when she was 19. He has 2 kids born 2016, 2018 with #6 (prior to divorce with #5) in addition to the older ones from wife #3.
He is a megabillionaire and works out, no potbelly.

Both are sugar babies on his payroll covered by marriage like fig leaf to look plausible. Not that pretty either. Pretty 28 yo with a decent non artistic career won’t sleep with that.

Nobody is disputing that there will always be hos..