Physical attraction at 60yo

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

The divorce rate suggests there is no reason for a man to believe a woman approximately your own age is going to stick around, either. If you're a geezer over 70 and you "only" get 5 or 10 years with a woman in her 30s, that goes in the WIN column even though she pulled the plug.

"An age gap marriage likely won't last!" - yeah neither will a no-age-gap marriage, statistically.

"Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions" - lmao that's why there are so many single moms and so many married women consumed with anger at their husbands, because women don't make dumb stupid decisions.

1. 5-10 years of access to young body is not worth marriage. [Beside the point. The point is that women don't stick around, married or not, age gap or not. An old guy who dates 30 years younger and gets dumped... a young guy who marries the same age and gets divorced... they both end up in the same place.]

2. It’s untrue that divorce rates of 1st marriage are same as 2-3 marriages with larger age gaps. The smaller the age gap, the less chances of divorce and more stable life . There are stats for that [Meh, you gotta control for second marriage, that's what's causing the divorce not the age gap.]

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

The divorce rate suggests there is no reason for a man to believe a woman approximately your own age is going to stick around, either. If you're a geezer over 70 and you "only" get 5 or 10 years with a woman in her 30s, that goes in the WIN column even though she pulled the plug.

"An age gap marriage likely won't last!" - yeah neither will a no-age-gap marriage, statistically.

"Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions" - lmao that's why there are so many single moms and so many married women consumed with anger at their husbands, because women don't make dumb stupid decisions.

1. 5-10 years of access to young body is not worth marriage. [Beside the point. The point is that women don't stick around, married or not, age gap or not. An old guy who dates 30 years younger and gets dumped... a young guy who marries the same age and gets divorced... they both end up in the same place.]

2. It’s untrue that divorce rates of 1st marriage are same as 2-3 marriages with larger age gaps. The smaller the age gap, the less chances of divorce and more stable life . There are stats for that [Meh, you gotta control for second marriage, that's what's causing the divorce not the age gap.]

Both of your premises are incorrect. First marriages (almost equal age ) last longest . 2-3 marriages with last age gaps are on average much shorter with higher divorce rates. Main reason for divorce higher rates of relationship satisfaction which tanks quickly for large gap marriages. The longest lasting and most successful marriages are when partners only 1-3 years apart.

https://psychcentral.com/relationships/age-difference-in-relationships#the-ideal-age-difference

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

Your sample is skewed because you are partly looking at men who moved overseas possibly for better dating options.

When you look at couples where there is not a big status/wealth disparity, it is more the norm for couples to stay together than for husbands to abandon their wives.

For those who do, the reality is more complicated, in many of these marriages the couple no longer has a good relationship, no sex.

Its rare that a man up and leaves a good, satisfying relationship for someone 20 or 30 years younger. If this were happening all the time, women would never take the risk of getting married. And the fact is that more women than men initiate divorce

I have had probably hundreds of male friends over the years who have openly talked with me, and most men want a long-term, meaningful relationship and they don't want to blow everything up and start all over at 65.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why everyone is attracted to younger people.

Hey! I'm a younger person with a potbelly!

lol! Perfect response

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Anonymous wrote:We are both late 50’s and recently divorced. I am fit and told I look younger. He looks his age with a dad bod. He’s funny and kind. Seems like a genuine good person. I wish he was in better shape but I’m otherwise very attracted to his eyes and smile and personality. I need some encouragement not to get hung up on this potbelly. I know I’m not perfect either. My cellulite and aging skin is not gonna get any better.

Were you at lunch with the other OP who posted?!

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Anonymous wrote:This is what Astroglide is for.
See if he can deliver the lumber, then make up you mind.

never heard that phrase – makes me laugh and smile!

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

The divorce rate suggests there is no reason for a man to believe a woman approximately your own age is going to stick around, either. If you're a geezer over 70 and you "only" get 5 or 10 years with a woman in her 30s, that goes in the WIN column even though she pulled the plug.

"An age gap marriage likely won't last!" - yeah neither will a no-age-gap marriage, statistically.

"Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions" - lmao that's why there are so many single moms and so many married women consumed with anger at their husbands, because women don't make dumb stupid decisions.

1. 5-10 years of access to young body is not worth marriage. [Beside the point. The point is that women don't stick around, married or not, age gap or not. An old guy who dates 30 years younger and gets dumped... a young guy who marries the same age and gets divorced... they both end up in the same place.]

2. It’s untrue that divorce rates of 1st marriage are same as 2-3 marriages with larger age gaps. The smaller the age gap, the less chances of divorce and more stable life . There are stats for that [Meh, you gotta control for second marriage, that's what's causing the divorce not the age gap.]

Both of your premises are incorrect. First marriages (almost equal age ) last longest . 2-3 marriages with last age gaps are on average much shorter with higher divorce rates. Main reason for divorce higher rates of relationship satisfaction which tanks quickly for large gap marriages. The longest lasting and most successful marriages are when partners only 1-3 years apart.

Those "studies" are garbage. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

The divorce rate suggests there is no reason for a man to believe a woman approximately your own age is going to stick around, either. If you're a geezer over 70 and you "only" get 5 or 10 years with a woman in her 30s, that goes in the WIN column even though she pulled the plug.

"An age gap marriage likely won't last!" - yeah neither will a no-age-gap marriage, statistically.

"Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions" - lmao that's why there are so many single moms and so many married women consumed with anger at their husbands, because women don't make dumb stupid decisions.

1. 5-10 years of access to young body is not worth marriage. [Beside the point. The point is that women don't stick around, married or not, age gap or not. An old guy who dates 30 years younger and gets dumped... a young guy who marries the same age and gets divorced... they both end up in the same place.]

2. It’s untrue that divorce rates of 1st marriage are same as 2-3 marriages with larger age gaps. The smaller the age gap, the less chances of divorce and more stable life . There are stats for that [Meh, you gotta control for second marriage, that's what's causing the divorce not the age gap.]

Both of your premises are incorrect. First marriages (almost equal age ) last longest . 2-3 marriages with last age gaps are on average much shorter with higher divorce rates. Main reason for divorce higher rates of relationship satisfaction which tanks quickly for large gap marriages. The longest lasting and most successful marriages are when partners only 1-3 years apart.

Those "studies" are garbage. Try again.

NP here. It's well known that age gap relationships have much higher rates of divorce and the longest lasting are people closer in age. Sounds like that upsets you

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

My best friend is married to a 30 years older man. He’s 80 and she’s 50. Their marriage is companionship and business arrangement. She is very low L and never needed much sex. She’s not the happiest wife out there and often regrets her choices but they have a child together so divorce is out of question. She screams at him sometimes.

That’s not unique to an age-gap marriage. It’s every marriage on this forum.

The inter personal conflicts in large gap relationships are much worse.

I don't know why we men are so stupid for real. Why do we believe that a woman 30 years younger is going to stick around.

When was the last time you heard an 80 years old woman married to a 50 years old man? Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions

The divorce rate suggests there is no reason for a man to believe a woman approximately your own age is going to stick around, either. If you're a geezer over 70 and you "only" get 5 or 10 years with a woman in her 30s, that goes in the WIN column even though she pulled the plug.

"An age gap marriage likely won't last!" - yeah neither will a no-age-gap marriage, statistically.

"Women don't make these kind of dumb stupid decisions" - lmao that's why there are so many single moms and so many married women consumed with anger at their husbands, because women don't make dumb stupid decisions.

1. 5-10 years of access to young body is not worth marriage. [Beside the point. The point is that women don't stick around, married or not, age gap or not. An old guy who dates 30 years younger and gets dumped... a young guy who marries the same age and gets divorced... they both end up in the same place.]

2. It’s untrue that divorce rates of 1st marriage are same as 2-3 marriages with larger age gaps. The smaller the age gap, the less chances of divorce and more stable life . There are stats for that [Meh, you gotta control for second marriage, that's what's causing the divorce not the age gap.]

Both of your premises are incorrect. First marriages (almost equal age ) last longest . 2-3 marriages with last age gaps are on average much shorter with higher divorce rates. Main reason for divorce higher rates of relationship satisfaction which tanks quickly for large gap marriages. The longest lasting and most successful marriages are when partners only 1-3 years apart.

Those "studies" are garbage. Try again.

Show your stats that 2-3 marriages to young women last longer and have lower rates of divorce then 1st (to women of about same age).

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

As a 60-year-old with many friends with foreign service careers I have heard these stories, too. I was interested in the foreign service at first, but because of this, I've always felt like I've kind of dodged a bullet.

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash, OP — no matter how good you think you look, from the standpoint of the opposite sex at your age you don’t look nearly as good as you think. Sorry.

+1
I thought I looked fairly youthful for 52. I am taking a class with few 20 and 30 somethings. When we were chatting they asked if I was a grandma! That kind of popped my bubble!

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash, OP — no matter how good you think you look, from the standpoint of the opposite sex at your age you don’t look nearly as good as you think. Sorry.

+1
I thought I looked fairly youthful for 52. I am taking a class with few 20 and 30 somethings. When we were chatting they asked if I was a grandma! That kind of popped my bubble!

+1 Women compare themselves to women their age, men compare women to hotties 10-20 years younger.

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Anonymous wrote:You have a guy on the hook, reel him in. The sea is pretty empty the older you get.

Why? For what?

Because the pool shrinks the older women get. There are fewer men around and those who can engage a younger woman do so. The 60yo rich adonis is dating 45 and below. The nice, decent guys who want to date a woman of his age has many many women to pick from.

This really is true.

We're longtime expats, and have lived in Eastern Europe and now in Asia. In both places, it was super common to see middle aged expat couples divorce because the man (always the man) had an affair with a much younger local girl. By much younger, I mean early 20s to early 30s women with men aged 40, 50, 60, and beyond. Literally any Western man of any age is/was constantly targeted by drop-dead gorgeous young women. The women weren't all "bar girls" or yokels from the village, either: I have a 65 year old male colleague now who is married to a gorgeous 28 year old lawyer.

As a woman, I don't know what to say. I've accepted the reality of the situation and now believe that almost every man will choose a much younger woman if possible, and that includes leaving a wife/family. I've just seen this happen so many times while living in countries where there is an endless supply of young women who would do almost anything to land a pot-bellied 65 year old American man.

I've seen men abandon young families with kids, wives in their 30s, wives in their 40s, wives in middle age. It is super depressing to see this happen with a guy who initially seems like such a loving family man.

Those kinds of guys are losers though.

Losers, yes, but they leave a lot of collateral damage.

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This is why I only date men with mommy issues. They are generally ten years younger than me and hot. 😂

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I only date men with mommy issues. They are generally ten years younger than me and hot. 😂

OMg LOL!