ICE - Face Masks and Warrants

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, someone has died and fortunately it wasn't a CBP or ICE agent - although this guy tried.

Active shooter killed in attempt to ambush Border Patrol agents in Texas

https://www.fox13news.com/news/mcallen-texas-border-patrol-shooting

McALLEN, Texas - An active shooter armed with tactical gear and a rifle opened fire upon Border Patrol agents as they arrived at a Border Patrol annex facility in McAllen, Texas, in the Rio Grande Valley on Monday.

Agents and local police returned fire and killed the gunman. No federal agents were hit, but one McAllen police officer was struck. Law enforcement sources say the officer is in stable condition.

"This morning an individual opened fired at the entrance of the United States Border Patrol sector annex in McAllen, Texas. Both Border Patrol agents and local police helped neutralize the shooter," the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement to Fox News. "This is an ongoing investigation led by the FBI. More information will be shared as it becomes available."

Law enforcement believes the attack was a purposeful ambush targeting Border Patrol officials. Local police say they will hold a news conference on the attack later Monday.

The incident comes just days after another Texas police officer was shot Friday night near U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Prairieland Detention Facility, authorities said.

Looks like patriots fighting back.

Looks like the radical left is following orders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, someone has died and fortunately it wasn't a CBP or ICE agent - although this guy tried.

Active shooter killed in attempt to ambush Border Patrol agents in Texas

https://www.fox13news.com/news/mcallen-texas-border-patrol-shooting

McALLEN, Texas - An active shooter armed with tactical gear and a rifle opened fire upon Border Patrol agents as they arrived at a Border Patrol annex facility in McAllen, Texas, in the Rio Grande Valley on Monday.

Agents and local police returned fire and killed the gunman. No federal agents were hit, but one McAllen police officer was struck. Law enforcement sources say the officer is in stable condition.

"This morning an individual opened fired at the entrance of the United States Border Patrol sector annex in McAllen, Texas. Both Border Patrol agents and local police helped neutralize the shooter," the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement to Fox News. "This is an ongoing investigation led by the FBI. More information will be shared as it becomes available."

Law enforcement believes the attack was a purposeful ambush targeting Border Patrol officials. Local police say they will hold a news conference on the attack later Monday.

The incident comes just days after another Texas police officer was shot Friday night near U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Prairieland Detention Facility, authorities said.

Looks like patriots fighting back.

Looks like the radical left is following orders.

Take a look at the bluesky link above with the photo of the CBP agents in camo. One of the comments was suggesting murdering one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well, this is all totally normal:

https://bsky.app/profile/newsjennifer.bsky.social/post/3ltfg3y2cz22j

A whole troops of armed/masked men with heavy weaponry just hanging out at MacArthur Park in Los Angeles.

WTAF.

That's a Special Response Team, which is the updated term for a SWAT team. That's why their uniforms say SRT. They look pretty typical for that role.

Do you have any idea how many criminal aliens - some of them VERY violent - have been arrested in LA the past few months?
Perhaps if authorities in LA and, California more broadly, would start working with ICE to get rid of the criminal aliens on their streets, this kind of incident would not be necessary.

Here are a few arrested last month. Nice guys, huh?

BREAKING: Federal sources ID some of the criminal illegal alien targets ICE arrested in their LA operation yesterday & today, which sparked violent protests. They include multiple gang members, convicted sex offenders, violent gun offenders, & drug offenders. One has already been deported. They include:

Rolando Veneracion-Enriquez, a national of the Philippines who has prior convictions for sexual penetration with a foreign object, assault with intent to commit rape, and burglary, all in California.

ARMANDO ORDAZ, a Mexican national & known gang member with a convictions for sexual battery, receiving stolen property, and theft in Los Angeles.

VICTOR MENDOZA-AGUILAR, a previously deported Mexican national & known gang member with convictions for assault with a deadly weapon, and possessing drug paraphernalia.

DELFINO AGUILAR MARTINEZ, a Mexican national with a conviction for assault with a deadly weapon causing great bodily injury in LA.

[Anonymous]

Again, why is no one standing their ground against these agents in a state like Florida?... Armed masked men cannot just come on your property and kidnap you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, why is no one standing their ground against these agents in a state like Florida?... Armed masked men cannot just come on your property and kidnap you

Because there’s nothing to be gained from doing that. Someone who is about to be arrested by ICE isn’t any better off after they shoot an ICE agent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

+1.

The issue isnt so much clothing, rather it is when we have an administration weaponizing agencies vs overseeing their mission to protect US citizens and interests. Trust in the process erodes.

[Anonymous]

Oh please. For every criminal they pick up I can find five people who have been living here peacefully for decades— sometimes raising their kids to serve in Marines.

I mean Trump is releasing a violent felon and letting him stay in the country just to pursue his bogus case against Kilmar. This isn’t about reducing crime— it’s about reducing brown people

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Allowing law enforcement to conceal their identity is a surefire path to corruption and misconduct.

Given that I’m the poster married to the DOJ LEO, I’m thankful that your proposal has exactly zero chance of happening. I appreciate your sincerity, but I’m thankful that my husband doesn’t have to advertise our name when he’s arresting a violent fugitive.

DP. How is wearing a uniform or continuously displaying a generic badge "advertise your name"?

I think we are talking past each other a bit. DH’s agency is a plainclothes agency. It requires him to wear a badge on his hip and a plate carrier with his agency name on it. He has a carrier issued by his agency, but he can wear whatever cargo pants, button up shirt, and sneakers that fit within his agency’s regulations. He can also purchase a different carrier at his own expense, but he still needs to display his agency’s name on it. His clothing identifies him as a cop and identifies his agency, but it isn’t a uniform.

When you say “uniform” I assume you mean like Virginia State Police troopers or MPD officers wear, that includes a patch worn on the chest with their name on it.

Did not know what a plate carrier is. Is this what you mean? https://images.app.goo.gl/6gsnX4Ldn75vzCXN6

Totally agree that your husband’s name should not be displayed but glad to hear that the agency’s name must be and that he has to wear a badge on his hip. However, that does not seem to consistently be the case with ICE agents. They also have seem to have more leeway to wear whatever they want, unlike in your husband’s agency. Case in point the ICE agent at the Albemarle courthouse who was wearing a long ponytail (he’s male) and an untucked shirt worn loosely over jeans.

Basically yes. There are multiple types of body armor. As I understand it, most patrol officers wear a ballistic or tactical vest, like the one you linked to, which is good for stopping handgun rounds. You could conceal it under a loose shirt if you wanted to. A plate carrier looks similar, although its definitely bulkier and uglier. It is closer to a life jacket that you'd wear on a boat than anything else. It carries heavier duty ballistic plates that can stop higher powered ammunition, like rifle rounds.

The badge is intentionally worn on the hip next to the firearm so that anyone who notices the gun can see that the person carrying it is authorized to be armed.

Anecdotally, ERO officers are considered bottom of the barrel in terms of federal law enforcement, and it shows in how they present physically. I have defended ICE in some instances in the past, but I agree that the video from the Albemarle courthouse is alarming. I can see why that incident was disturbing to the arrestee and anyone who witnessed it.

I'm one of the PPs you've been engaging with and I just wanted to say that I appreciate you taking the time to explain the LEO perspective in a calm way. I wish we could do more of this as a society. Most of us don't know the rules and regulations that apply to LEOs, including how they have to present publicly. In the DC area where there are so many different types of LEOs, it's hard to know who's who. When you add to that open carry laws, like we have here in VA where I live, and ICE raids conducted by people that don't look like LEOs, it gets even murkier. More information is always a good thing so thanks for providing some.

Thank you for saying that. I’ve enjoyed our conversation as well.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. Not a lawyer..

I've read that LEOs are supposed to identify themselves, read miranda rights and have a warrant signed by a judge for arrests. However, it seems pretty common for ICE to wear masks, not identify themselves, have no warrants or warrants not signed by a judge and take away people. How come there are no lawsuits enforcing those rules? Personally, I think everyone should get due process and criminal illegals should be deported, but wondering why none of the democratic state governors or the variety of non-profits that purport to stand for people's rights have not sued thus far. At least get an injunction in state courts so they can't operate like that in a particular state.

Insights?

These are NOT legit agents....these are J6 off the street white christian nationalists....you know the ones who mask up and jump out of haul trucks to spread their hatred for non whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. Not a lawyer..

I've read that LEOs are supposed to identify themselves, read miranda rights and have a warrant signed by a judge for arrests. However, it seems pretty common for ICE to wear masks, not identify themselves, have no warrants or warrants not signed by a judge and take away people. How come there are no lawsuits enforcing those rules? Personally, I think everyone should get due process and criminal illegals should be deported, but wondering why none of the democratic state governors or the variety of non-profits that purport to stand for people's rights have not sued thus far. At least get an injunction in state courts so they can't operate like that in a particular state.

Insights?

These are NOT legit agents....these are J6 off the street white christian nationalists....you know the ones who mask up and jump out of haul trucks to spread their hatred for non whites.

This is complete nonsense and terrible trolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. Not a lawyer..

I've read that LEOs are supposed to identify themselves, read miranda rights and have a warrant signed by a judge for arrests. However, it seems pretty common for ICE to wear masks, not identify themselves, have no warrants or warrants not signed by a judge and take away people. How come there are no lawsuits enforcing those rules? Personally, I think everyone should get due process and criminal illegals should be deported, but wondering why none of the democratic state governors or the variety of non-profits that purport to stand for people's rights have not sued thus far. At least get an injunction in state courts so they can't operate like that in a particular state.

Insights?

These are NOT legit agents....these are J6 off the street white christian nationalists....you know the ones who mask up and jump out of haul trucks to spread their hatred for non whites.

This is complete nonsense and terrible trolling.

+1

ICE does deputize local law enforcement under the 287g program and has been detailing 1811 LEOs from other agencies (officially or not), but it is not deputizing random people to make immigration arrests. This is misinformation and it discredits attempts to rein ICE in.

[Anonymous]

So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. Not a lawyer..

I've read that LEOs are supposed to identify themselves, read miranda rights and have a warrant signed by a judge for arrests. However, it seems pretty common for ICE to wear masks, not identify themselves, have no warrants or warrants not signed by a judge and take away people. How come there are no lawsuits enforcing those rules? Personally, I think everyone should get due process and criminal illegals should be deported, but wondering why none of the democratic state governors or the variety of non-profits that purport to stand for people's rights have not sued thus far. At least get an injunction in state courts so they can't operate like that in a particular state.

Insights?

These are NOT legit agents....these are J6 off the street white christian nationalists....you know the ones who mask up and jump out of haul trucks to spread their hatred for non whites.

This is complete nonsense and terrible trolling.

Ok sure MAGA

[Anonymous]

From the moment he came down the elevator at Trump Tower 10+ years ago, Trump has been demonizing immigrants, especially Hispanics (“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” Trump said, as he claimed the country was dispatching immigrants to the US. “They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us [sic]. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists.")

The tone is set by the president. Other presidents like Obama may have been tough on migrants as well, but we didn't hear as much about it because it wasn't the centerpiece of his campaign as it is with Trump. As long as Trump feeds the immigrants-are-criminals and immigrants-are-taking-over-our -country narrative and stoking tensions with made-for-TV footage like Alligator Alcatraz, ICE Barbie photo-ops at CECOT, Stephen Miller and Tom Homan angrily yelling about "illegals," using the military in ICE enforcement, and awarding ICE and the BP a budget that rivals the military budget of entire countries, divisions between Americans will continue and the flames of discord will be fanned. The whole thing needs to be taken down a few notches. By all means, take the criminal migrants--but stop treating everyone else as criminals and looking for excuses to get rid of mostly people of color without due process and without care for their legal and human rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

Yep. Seems that they are just fine with criminal aliens walking the streets in the US as long as THEY are not affected by it.