ICE - Face Masks and Warrants

[Anonymous]

If you want to cite a written law or statute, then do it.

"I've read" hearsay isn't cutting it.

[Anonymous]

LAPD appears to be verifying identities. I am sure that other localities will as well. That’s definitely a start.

The whole Gestapo secret police vibe isn’t going to do them any favors. It’s probably going to get people hurt.

[Anonymous]

Someone provided face shields for an anti-ICE riot and now faces federal jail time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. Not a lawyer..

I've read that LEOs are supposed to identify themselves, read miranda rights and have a warrant signed by a judge for arrests. However, it seems pretty common for ICE to wear masks, not identify themselves, have no warrants or warrants not signed by a judge and take away people. How come there are no lawsuits enforcing those rules? Personally, I think everyone should get due process and criminal illegals should be deported, but wondering why none of the democratic state governors or the variety of non-profits that purport to stand for people's rights have not sued thus far. At least get an injunction in state courts so they can't operate like that in a particular state.

Insights?

Warrant is not required. It is not criminal procedure, it is administrative procedure. Interesting how it bites back those who was screaming for years that these illegals are not criminals, and now they want criminal procedure to be followed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. Not a lawyer..

I've read that LEOs are supposed to identify themselves, read miranda rights and have a warrant signed by a judge for arrests. However, it seems pretty common for ICE to wear masks, not identify themselves, have no warrants or warrants not signed by a judge and take away people. How come there are no lawsuits enforcing those rules? Personally, I think everyone should get due process and criminal illegals should be deported, but wondering why none of the democratic state governors or the variety of non-profits that purport to stand for people's rights have not sued thus far. At least get an injunction in state courts so they can't operate like that in a particular state.

Insights?

You are incorrect. They do identify themselves, even if they wear the masks.

[Anonymous]

I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction

[Anonymous]

Law enforcement almost never reads Miranda rights at the time of arrest. That’s a misconception because of TV cop shows. Usually an officer will administer Miranda warnings when attempting to interview a suspect post-arrest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction

Most people who are arrested don’t want to be. Police are used to dealing with people who refuse to go willingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction

Most people who are arrested don’t want to be. Police are used to dealing with people who refuse to go willingly.

Have you sen al the fun videos where people chase the ICE scum out of their neighborhoods?

It’s going to escalate. Should be fun. They are already identifying agents and use AI to “unmask” them to use for further searches to identify them. It’s was already going to already be a tall order to hire enough immoral scumbags to do the jobs, and it’s not going to get any easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction

Most people who are arrested don’t want to be. Police are used to dealing with people who refuse to go willingly.

Have you sen al the fun videos where people chase the ICE scum out of their neighborhoods?

It’s going to escalate. Should be fun. They are already identifying agents and use AI to “unmask” them to use for further searches to identify them. It’s was already going to already be a tall order to hire enough immoral scumbags to do the jobs, and it’s not going to get any easier.

We’ll see. Anecdotally, I’ve seen reports that ICE isn’t having any trouble recruiting, but certainly it is a possibility. 10k new agents is insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction

Most people who are arrested don’t want to be. Police are used to dealing with people who refuse to go willingly.

Have you sen al the fun videos where people chase the ICE scum out of their neighborhoods?

It’s going to escalate. Should be fun. They are already identifying agents and use AI to “unmask” them to use for further searches to identify them. It’s was already going to already be a tall order to hire enough immoral scumbags to do the jobs, and it’s not going to get any easier.

And, this post right here is the very reason these agents wear masks.
And, of course the bounties set by the cartels. You see.... some of these people getting arrested by ICE still owe the cartels a bunch of money for getting them across the border. These cartel members don't like anyone interfering with their money making scheme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction

Most people who are arrested don’t want to be. Police are used to dealing with people who refuse to go willingly.

Have you sen al the fun videos where people chase the ICE scum out of their neighborhoods?

It’s going to escalate. Should be fun. They are already identifying agents and use AI to “unmask” them to use for further searches to identify them. It’s was already going to already be a tall order to hire enough immoral scumbags to do the jobs, and it’s not going to get any easier.

And, this post right here is the very reason these agents wear masks.
And, of course the bounties set by the cartels. You see.... some of these people getting arrested by ICE still owe the cartels a bunch of money for getting them across the border. These cartel members don't like anyone interfering with their money making scheme.

Sounds like the cartels will be infiltrating and imitating ICE in order to recoup their costs.
Not a lot of background checks going on if they need a giant influx of agents and military surplus stores seem to be where they are piecing together their uniforms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:quote=Anonymous]I've read that LEOs are supposed to identify themselves, read miranda rights and have a warrant signed by a judge for arrests. However, it seems pretty common for ICE to wear masks, not identify themselves, have no warrants or warrants not signed by a judge and take away people.

Thanks for the questions. First, there is no video I’ve seen circulated on social media or by the news media that supports the assertion that agents aren’t identifying themselves to the target of their enforcement action. The target is the only person that has the right to know who the arresting agent is. That identification has happened every time. More often than not there are multiple agents involved and several will have identifying vests with large patches with their agency name on them. Bystanders, friends and family have no right to know the identity of the agents. This is not new.

Immigration enforcement actions do not require agents to read the subject of the action their Miranda rights.

Immigration enforcement actions are primarily conducted with administrative warrants. Again, this is not new. Administrative warrants allow agents to capture subjects in any public place. If a member of the general public can legally be present in a location, that location is a place where an immigration enforcement action can occur.

There is no law or agency policy that even suggests that ICE agents can’t wear masks. ICE agents wore masks during the Biden administration as well.

Anonymous wrote:How come there are no lawsuits enforcing those rules?

There are no rules they’ve broken. There is no justification for a lawsuit.

Anonymous wrote:Personally, I think everyone should get due process and criminal illegals should be deported, but wondering why none of the democratic state governors or the variety of non-profits that purport to stand for people's rights have not sued thus far.

People forget that there are 1,300,000+ undocumented migrants in the country that have already received their due process and have a final removal order. No one on this forum can corroborate whether the people in the videos they’ve seen do or don’t have a final removal order. Even if they don’t, but they are here illegally, they are still subject to an immigration enforcement action.

Anonymous wrote: At least get an injunction in state courts so they can't operate like that in a particular state.

No court will issue an injunction for an otherwise legal and longstanding practice.

Hopefully that clears things up.

NP. I'm responding to the following assertion you made: "First, there is no video I’ve seen circulated on social media or by the news media that supports the assertion that agents aren’t identifying themselves to the target of their enforcement action."

This is false. One of the first and better know videos capturing an ICE arrest clearly shows that ICE officers (or whoever they are) did most certainly not identify themselves. It's the case of the Turkish grad student, Rumeysa Ozturk, who was snatched off the streets of a Boston suburb.

Here is the video (embedded in the story): https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/us/video/tufts-student-detained-rumeysa-ozturk-ice-digvid

And here is text from a news story (one of several) pointing out that the agents did not identify themselves: "In the widely seen video, masked ICE agents, refusing to identify themselves, arrested Ozturk on the street in Somerville, Mass."
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/5258058-how-ice-is-gaming-the-system-to-keep-rumeysa-ozturk-in-prison/

Have you watched the video? The masked individuals did not identify themselves. At one point the poor woman is so confused as to who the SIX masked people in plainclothes are who are swarming around her that she mentions summoning the police, and one person says, "We ARE the police." [The Somerville police subsequently released a statement saying that their officers were not involved. Not sure what "police" the masked person was referring to since they weren't police.]

Hopefully that clears things up.

[Anonymous]

^^^ ICE fanboy, please explain how the most prominent case of these psycho abductions (without following the law and identifying the themselves) escaped your keen eye!

[Anonymous]