ICE - Face Masks and Warrants

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

The only insanity is the MAGA insanity and the inhumanity you all seem ok with defending. I don't want to hear your rambling about criminals-it's far beyond criminals. Even Joe Rogan has taken a position on the inhumanity and cruelty we are seeing with Ice and DHS. This administration and it's MAGA supporters stand for noting more than hatred.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

I assume that you're talking about people who presented themselves at the border and asked for asylum. Laws were not ignored and those people are not "illegal." You can legitimately argue that the process was made too easy for them and that the backlog in immigration cases ensured they could stay here for a long time before they ever saw a judge--but you can't say that laws were ignored. The laws need to change and that will take an act of congress. There are people right now who followed the rules when they sought asylum, who report every year to ICE officials to maintain their status, who do not have a criminal record, and who are nevertheless being deported. We know that this administration is not interested in due process or distinguishing between law-abiding from criminal migrants because the huge budget that just passed contains so much more money for ICE/BP enforcement and an inadequate amount for immigration judges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

The only insanity is the MAGA insanity and the inhumanity you all seem ok with defending. I don't want to hear your rambling about criminals-it's far beyond criminals. Even Joe Rogan has taken a position on the inhumanity and cruelty we are seeing with Ice and DHS. This administration and it's MAGA supporters stand for noting more than hatred.

Stop with the tears for the downtrodden. No sane country in the history of the world has opened the door to so many people, lost track of most, & spent billions housing them in hotels. All because they supposedly are nice people who just can’t wait to pick our strawberries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the moment he came down the elevator at Trump Tower 10+ years ago, Trump has been demonizing immigrants, especially Hispanics (“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” Trump said, as he claimed the country was dispatching immigrants to the US. “They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us [sic]. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists.")

The tone is set by the president. Other presidents like Obama may have been tough on migrants as well, but we didn't hear as much about it because it wasn't the centerpiece of his campaign as it is with Trump. As long as Trump feeds the immigrants-are-criminals and immigrants-are-taking-over-our -country narrative and stoking tensions with made-for-TV footage like Alligator Alcatraz, ICE Barbie photo-ops at CECOT, Stephen Miller and Tom Homan angrily yelling about "illegals," using the military in ICE enforcement, and awarding ICE and the BP a budget that rivals the military budget of entire countries, divisions between Americans will continue and the flames of discord will be fanned. The whole thing needs to be taken down a few notches. By all means, take the criminal migrants--but stop treating everyone else as criminals and looking for excuses to get rid of mostly people of color without due process and without care for their legal and human rights.

Let's look at his full statement back in 2015....
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
(You seemed to have omitted the bolded. Wonder why?)

And, it turns out he was right. There is story after story of people from Mexico - primarily men - who have murdered, raped, or victimized American citizens. Many of them children.

And, now, after 4 years of Auto-pen, we have people like this from all over the world. Literally - all over the world.

Trump is fixing what Biden broke. And, correcting years of what other presidents have ignored. You don't end up with 11 million + of illegal aliens in the country if you enforce immigration laws. And, that 11 million has likely doubled - or more - because of Biden's unwillingness or ineptitude at enforcing the laws we have on the books.

We NEED leaders who will enforce our laws. The people being detained are present illegally and:
- have final removal orders but have refused to leave
- have been deported at least once, and then re-entered
- have been convicted of or accused of crimes in their home countries
- have committed crimes in the US other than entering illegally - many of them, violent crimes
- have overstayed their VISAs and failed to register with the US
Others are collateral arrests when ICE is arresting a criminal alien.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

The only insanity is the MAGA insanity and the inhumanity you all seem ok with defending. I don't want to hear your rambling about criminals-it's far beyond criminals. Even Joe Rogan has taken a position on the inhumanity and cruelty we are seeing with Ice and DHS. This administration and it's MAGA supporters stand for noting more than hatred.

Stop with the tears for the downtrodden. No sane country in the history of the world has opened the door to so many people, lost track of most, & spent billions housing them in hotels. All because they supposedly are nice people who just can’t wait to pick our strawberries.

The US did and it made the US great. Now we are the Soviet. The food shortages are coming because of Trumps and republicans five year plans and command economy. Masked men abducting people off the street and sending them to gulags.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, why is no one standing their ground against these agents in a state like Florida?... Armed masked men cannot just come on your property and kidnap you

Because there’s nothing to be gained from doing that. Someone who is about to be arrested by ICE isn’t any better off after they shoot an ICE agent.

Are they better off not?? It seems to me like they're going to be imprisoned for the rest of their life either way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

The only insanity is the MAGA insanity and the inhumanity you all seem ok with defending. I don't want to hear your rambling about criminals-it's far beyond criminals. Even Joe Rogan has taken a position on the inhumanity and cruelty we are seeing with Ice and DHS. This administration and it's MAGA supporters stand for noting more than hatred.

Stop with the tears for the downtrodden. No sane country in the history of the world has opened the door to so many people, lost track of most, & spent billions housing them in hotels. All because they supposedly are nice people who just can’t wait to pick our strawberries.

There were no immigration laws for most of human history— and I really doubt there were any when your ancestors moved here.

Immigration made this country great — both economically and culturally — and cutting it off is a recipe for economic disaster. Go look at Japan’s economy if you want a peek at our future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, why is no one standing their ground against these agents in a state like Florida?... Armed masked men cannot just come on your property and kidnap you

Because there’s nothing to be gained from doing that. Someone who is about to be arrested by ICE isn’t any better off after they shoot an ICE agent.

Are they better off not?? It seems to me like they're going to be imprisoned for the rest of their life either way

Most immigrants arrested by ICE are being deported, not imprisoned for the rest of their lives.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like we are living in a communist state

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14882431/Los-Angeles-ICE-raids-migrant-workers-hiding.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like we are living in a communist state

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14882431/Los-Angeles-ICE-raids-migrant-workers-hiding.html

I wonder how much tax money we burned on that pathetic PR stunt.

Less than the stupid birthday parade, but it was worse in other ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

The only insanity is the MAGA insanity and the inhumanity you all seem ok with defending. I don't want to hear your rambling about criminals-it's far beyond criminals. Even Joe Rogan has taken a position on the inhumanity and cruelty we are seeing with Ice and DHS. This administration and it's MAGA supporters stand for noting more than hatred.

Stop with the tears for the downtrodden. No sane country in the history of the world has opened the door to so many people, lost track of most, & spent billions housing them in hotels. All because they supposedly are nice people who just can’t wait to pick our strawberries.

There were no immigration laws for most of human history— and I really doubt there were any when your ancestors moved here.

Immigration made this country great — both economically and culturally — and cutting it off is a recipe for economic disaster. Go look at Japan’s economy if you want a peek at our future.

We have immigration laws now. Yes, immigrants do make this country great - LEGAL immigrants.
Since this thread is about ICE arresting illegal immigrants, your post is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

I assume that you're talking about people who presented themselves at the border and asked for asylum. Laws were not ignored and those people are not "illegal." You can legitimately argue that the process was made too easy for them and that the backlog in immigration cases ensured they could stay here for a long time before they ever saw a judge--but you can't say that laws were ignored. The laws need to change and that will take an act of congress. There are people right now who followed the rules when they sought asylum, who report every year to ICE officials to maintain their status, who do not have a criminal record, and who are nevertheless being deported. We know that this administration is not interested in due process or distinguishing between law-abiding from criminal migrants because the huge budget that just passed contains so much more money for ICE/BP enforcement and an inadequate amount for immigration judges.

Trump had implemented Remain in Mexico. Biden got rid of that. Having the Remain in Mexico had a lot of these fake refugees not come at all.
Now that Trump is back, the asylum flow has stopped and reversed. The backlog has actually reduced.
Meanwhile, DeSantis is offering to have National Guard serve as judges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
There were no immigration laws for most of human history— and I really doubt there were any when your ancestors moved here.

Considering 15% right now are foreign born, I would guess you are wrong on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we ignore all the laws to let millions of illegals in, but then we nitpick the efforts to get them out? Classic Democrat insanity.

The only insanity is the MAGA insanity and the inhumanity you all seem ok with defending. I don't want to hear your rambling about criminals-it's far beyond criminals. Even Joe Rogan has taken a position on the inhumanity and cruelty we are seeing with Ice and DHS. This administration and it's MAGA supporters stand for noting more than hatred.

Stop with the tears for the downtrodden. No sane country in the history of the world has opened the door to so many people, lost track of most, & spent billions housing them in hotels. All because they supposedly are nice people who just can’t wait to pick our strawberries.

There were no immigration laws for most of human history— and I really doubt there were any when your ancestors moved here.

Immigration made this country great — both economically and culturally — and cutting it off is a recipe for economic disaster. Go look at Japan’s economy if you want a peek at our future.

We have immigration laws now. Yes, immigrants do make this country great - LEGAL immigrants.
Since this thread is about ICE arresting illegal immigrants, your post is irrelevant.

In case you have your head under a rock or somewhere else the sun doesn’t shine, they have been arresting plenty of people here legally.

And the bigger point is that in the early 1900s there was no such thing as “illegal immigration”— if you could get to the US healthy you were allowed in— and that’s the system under which this country became the greatest and richest country in the world!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the moment he came down the elevator at Trump Tower 10+ years ago, Trump has been demonizing immigrants, especially Hispanics (“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” Trump said, as he claimed the country was dispatching immigrants to the US. “They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us [sic]. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists.")

The tone is set by the president. Other presidents like Obama may have been tough on migrants as well, but we didn't hear as much about it because it wasn't the centerpiece of his campaign as it is with Trump. As long as Trump feeds the immigrants-are-criminals and immigrants-are-taking-over-our -country narrative and stoking tensions with made-for-TV footage like Alligator Alcatraz, ICE Barbie photo-ops at CECOT, Stephen Miller and Tom Homan angrily yelling about "illegals," using the military in ICE enforcement, and awarding ICE and the BP a budget that rivals the military budget of entire countries, divisions between Americans will continue and the flames of discord will be fanned. The whole thing needs to be taken down a few notches. By all means, take the criminal migrants--but stop treating everyone else as criminals and looking for excuses to get rid of mostly people of color without due process and without care for their legal and human rights.

Let's look at his full statement back in 2015....
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
(You seemed to have omitted the bolded. Wonder why?)

And, it turns out he was right. There is story after story of people from Mexico - primarily men - who have murdered, raped, or victimized American citizens. Many of them children.

And, now, after 4 years of Auto-pen, we have people like this from all over the world. Literally - all over the world.

Trump is fixing what Biden broke. And, correcting years of what other presidents have ignored. You don't end up with 11 million + of illegal aliens in the country if you enforce immigration laws. And, that 11 million has likely doubled - or more - because of Biden's unwillingness or ineptitude at enforcing the laws we have on the books.

We NEED leaders who will enforce our laws. The people being detained are present illegally and:
- have final removal orders but have refused to leave
- have been deported at least once, and then re-entered
- have been convicted of or accused of crimes in their home countries
- have committed crimes in the US other than entering illegally - many of them, violent crimes
- have overstayed their VISAs and failed to register with the US
Others are collateral arrests when ICE is arresting a criminal alien.

In 2023, 8,842 homicides committed by white people.
In 2023, 29 homicides committed by illegal immigrants.