Why so many pit pulls?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

There is a reason why putbulls are filling shelters.

Most are really unadoptable due to aggression, so they get returned often, then moved between shelters by crazy pit bull rescues.

Why can’t the rescues focus on spaying and neutering this population and yes, putting many to sleep so that the population is reduced.

You show your ignorance when you say things like this. Go volunteer at a shelter and you'll learn that this is exactly what they do, though I wouldn't say it's "many" dogs getting put down, just the ones that are unlikely to be rehabilitated due to lack of time/resources.

NP. So years ago I volunteered at the ASPCA. I recall a sweet little whippet dog being there and other sweet Benji type mutts. Dogs that you could safely bring home to a family. Sad that it’s changed so much. Ignorant pit bull advocates unfortunately like the poster above who is all over these threads defending the lunacy.

You think whippets and terriers (Benji-like) have a lot in common and are uniformly good family pets? Yeesh.

Exactly. The "it's fine unless it's a pit bull" mentality is dangerous af.

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People tend to forget that pitbulls are cross between bulldogs and terriers, so a lot of the traits pitbulls have many other terriers will have as well

Also, whippets are neurotic af Cute, loveable, hypercharged little nutsos.

I’ve never heard of a whippet seriously harming anyone though…

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

There is a reason why putbulls are filling shelters.

Most are really unadoptable due to aggression, so they get returned often, then moved between shelters by crazy pit bull rescues.

Why can’t the rescues focus on spaying and neutering this population and yes, putting many to sleep so that the population is reduced.

They do. I see events/organizations that offer free or reduced cost spay/neuter for pit bulls/pit mixes on a fairly regular basis and I don't see many, if any, rescues adopting out breeding age dogs of any breed or mix without sterilizing them. The real question is, why aren't there more pet owners taking them up on the offer?

Yes, why aren’t pit owners fixing their pets??

The same reason people aren't posting better content on this forum: no consequence for doing stupid mess.

There's no law saying dogs need to be fixed, no law regulating who can/can't breed, and an assumption that puppies can be sold for profit in a tanking economy. Where's the incentive to fix the dogs, which often costs money, even at reduced-price clinics?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

There is a reason why putbulls are filling shelters.

Most are really unadoptable due to aggression, so they get returned often, then moved between shelters by crazy pit bull rescues.

Why can’t the rescues focus on spaying and neutering this population and yes, putting many to sleep so that the population is reduced.

They do. I see events/organizations that offer free or reduced cost spay/neuter for pit bulls/pit mixes on a fairly regular basis and I don't see many, if any, rescues adopting out breeding age dogs of any breed or mix without sterilizing them. The real question is, why aren't there more pet owners taking them up on the offer?

Yes, why aren’t pit owners fixing their pets??

The same reason people aren't posting better content on this forum: no consequence for doing stupid mess.

There's no law saying dogs need to be fixed, no law regulating who can/can't breed, and an assumption that puppies can be sold for profit in a tanking economy. Where's the incentive to fix the dogs, which often costs money, even at reduced-price clinics?

Not having to deal with an intact dog and the associated undesirable behavior is enough incentive for me. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't spay or neuter their pet, but every discussion about it always has a couple of folks who are adamant about not castrating their male dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

There is a reason why putbulls are filling shelters.

Most are really unadoptable due to aggression, so they get returned often, then moved between shelters by crazy pit bull rescues.

Why can’t the rescues focus on spaying and neutering this population and yes, putting many to sleep so that the population is reduced.

They do. I see events/organizations that offer free or reduced cost spay/neuter for pit bulls/pit mixes on a fairly regular basis and I don't see many, if any, rescues adopting out breeding age dogs of any breed or mix without sterilizing them. The real question is, why aren't there more pet owners taking them up on the offer?

Yes, why aren’t pit owners fixing their pets??

The same reason people aren't posting better content on this forum: no consequence for doing stupid mess.

There's no law saying dogs need to be fixed, no law regulating who can/can't breed, and an assumption that puppies can be sold for profit in a tanking economy. Where's the incentive to fix the dogs, which often costs money, even at reduced-price clinics?

Not having to deal with an intact dog and the associated undesirable behavior is enough incentive for me. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't spay or neuter their pet, but every discussion about it always has a couple of folks who are adamant about not castrating their male dogs.

I have heard seemingly-legitimate arguments for postponing spay/neuter until larger-breed dogs are more physically mature. Didn't stop me from spaying mine before they cycled, and they've all been fine.

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Try a breed-specific rescue.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

Fairfax Shelter has some cute puppies that are not pit bull. FWIW I think pitt bulls get a bad rap. They are so snuggly and cuddly. Like any strong dog they can be raised poorly and have bad outcome.
The pitt bulls wearing the sweaters with bows are not the mean kind and are sort
of silly and sweet.

Yes, because when you put a bow and sweater on the only breed of dog documented to have eaten their owners and statistically killing children and sending the most children to trauma centers, it immediately becomes a sweet snuggle muffin.

Who knew that all it takes is a pink bow.

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

There is a reason why putbulls are filling shelters.

Most are really unadoptable due to aggression, so they get returned often, then moved between shelters by crazy pit bull rescues.

Why can’t the rescues focus on spaying and neutering this population and yes, putting many to sleep so that the population is reduced.

Reputable rescues do take it seriously. Lucky dog, for example - all adoptable dogs over 6 mo are spayed/neutered before adoption, contracts for puppies have clause about neutering before certain date (and they will pull the dog if it's not neutered in time)
They also host neutering clinics at their campus in rural SC.
Even on merch Lucky dog has signed like "Balls for fetching" and "Neuter your pet"
What else you'd expect from a non-for-profit rescue to focus on spaying/neutering?

She is talking specifically about neutering pitbulls

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No. We need laws requiring all pet owners to neuter and spay all pets that leave their home, with huge fines blah, blah, blah. No more indoor/outdoor cats making oopsie kittens, no more backyard-bred dogs of any breed(s). Period.

People who want to breed animals should need to obtain additional licensing showing they have the knowledge and setup to do so responsibly.

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No, we don't
There are so many mutts waiting to be adopted
I was at the adoption event this Sunday - 100+ dogs - hounds, beagles, Chihuahua, husky, labs, shepherds, even could of doodles, and of course- super mutts... All shapes and forms, all ages

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No, we don't
There are so many mutts waiting to be adopted
I was at the adoption event this Sunday - 100+ dogs - hounds, beagles, Chihuahua, husky, labs, shepherds, even could of doodles, and of course- super mutts... All shapes and forms, all ages

This. There are entirely too many available dogs right now. We need better legislation to restrict backyard breeders (and a fine structure that funds the public shelters so they can do more community education and outreach for potential dog owners).

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No, we don't
There are so many mutts waiting to be adopted
I was at the adoption event this Sunday - 100+ dogs - hounds, beagles, Chihuahua, husky, labs, shepherds, even could of doodles, and of course- super mutts... All shapes and forms, all ages

This. There are entirely too many available dogs right now. We need better legislation to restrict backyard breeders (and a fine structure that funds the public shelters so they can do more community education and outreach for potential dog owners).

Who is going to enforce the legislation?

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Anonymous wrote:Because we have spayed/neutered all the family friendly dogs. The only ones accidentally breeding are bully mixes, and the rest of shelters are puppy mill products or BYB dogs.

I have had many rescue dogs and will have more in the future, but there aren't well bred golden retrievers turned in to shelters. They are returned to the good breeder they came from to be rehomed.

Good breeders will actually require in the contract that the dog be returned to them or they have to approve the placement if you no longer want the dog. Likewise, if the dog is mistreated, they can take back the dog.

And do you know what they do with those returned dogs? They re-sell them. Twice the profit. How is this ethical?

So returned dog should be given away for free?

Serious question..if you return a dog to the breeder do you get any money back?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

There is a reason why putbulls are filling shelters.

Most are really unadoptable due to aggression, so they get returned often, then moved between shelters by crazy pit bull rescues.

Why can’t the rescues focus on spaying and neutering this population and yes, putting many to sleep so that the population is reduced.

You show your ignorance when you say things like this. Go volunteer at a shelter and you'll learn that this is exactly what they do, though I wouldn't say it's "many" dogs getting put down, just the ones that are unlikely to be rehabilitated due to lack of time/resources.

NP. So years ago I volunteered at the ASPCA. I recall a sweet little whippet dog being there and other sweet Benji type mutts. Dogs that you could safely bring home to a family. Sad that it’s changed so much. Ignorant pit bull advocates unfortunately like the poster above who is all over these threads defending the lunacy.

You think whippets and terriers (Benji-like) have a lot in common and are uniformly good family pets? Yeesh.

Exactly. The "it's fine unless it's a pit bull" mentality is dangerous af.

Yep
People tend to forget that pitbulls are cross between bulldogs and terriers, so a lot of the traits pitbulls have many other terriers will have as well

Also, whippets are neurotic af Cute, loveable, hypercharged little nutsos.

I’ve never heard of a whippet seriously harming anyone though…

Chows? German shepherds? Rotweilers? Plenty of other dogs can maul

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No, we don't
There are so many mutts waiting to be adopted
I was at the adoption event this Sunday - 100+ dogs - hounds, beagles, Chihuahua, husky, labs, shepherds, even could of doodles, and of course- super mutts... All shapes and forms, all ages

Few puppies though. People tend to want smaller dogs or puppies.

Our shelter is well trafficked. First to go are small dogs and pups, then anything except pitbulls. What remains are the poor pitbull mixes.