Talk of potential government shutdown?

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Anonymous wrote:GOP leaders say they won't put reins on Trump and Musk in shutdown negotiations
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/02/26/congress/gop-leader-shutdown-talks-musk-trump-00206198

The GOP is laughable.

“The Republicans have been in good faith on negotiations on the funding issues all along, and the Democrats have had completely unreasonable conditions assigned to this," Johnson said. "They want us to limit the power of the executive branch. They want us to stipulate in the appropriations bills, for the first time in history, that certain agencies in the executive branch would have to have a specific number of employees — all sorts of just unreasonable, what I think are unconstitutional, demands. There'll be a violation of separation of powers. So we're pretty far apart right now, but it is not because the Republicans. It's because of the Democrats.“

On the positive side, the Democrats are demanding the right things and they have leverage.

What leverage? The GOP is voting in lockstep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GOP leaders say they won't put reins on Trump and Musk in shutdown negotiations
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/02/26/congress/gop-leader-shutdown-talks-musk-trump-00206198

The GOP is laughable.

“The Republicans have been in good faith on negotiations on the funding issues all along, and the Democrats have had completely unreasonable conditions assigned to this," Johnson said. "They want us to limit the power of the executive branch. They want us to stipulate in the appropriations bills, for the first time in history, that certain agencies in the executive branch would have to have a specific number of employees — all sorts of just unreasonable, what I think are unconstitutional, demands. There'll be a violation of separation of powers. So we're pretty far apart right now, but it is not because the Republicans. It's because of the Democrats.“

On the positive side, the Democrats are demanding the right things and they have leverage.

What leverage? The GOP is voting in lockstep.

Fine. And the GOP is responsible for everything that happens. The recession we are facing. The measles outbreak. The price of eggs. The unemployment. The inflation. The response to the next natural disaster the country experiences. The next terrorist attack. It’s all on the GOP’s watch and a result of their governance.

[Anonymous]

I mean, why should the legislative branch ever bother to make a new budget anyway when the executive branch isn’t actually following it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GOP leaders say they won't put reins on Trump and Musk in shutdown negotiations
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/02/26/congress/gop-leader-shutdown-talks-musk-trump-00206198

The GOP is laughable.

“The Republicans have been in good faith on negotiations on the funding issues all along, and the Democrats have had completely unreasonable conditions assigned to this," Johnson said. "They want us to limit the power of the executive branch. They want us to stipulate in the appropriations bills, for the first time in history, that certain agencies in the executive branch would have to have a specific number of employees — all sorts of just unreasonable, what I think are unconstitutional, demands. There'll be a violation of separation of powers. So we're pretty far apart right now, but it is not because the Republicans. It's because of the Democrats.“

On the positive side, the Democrats are demanding the right things and they have leverage.

What leverage? The GOP is voting in lockstep.

Fine. And the GOP is responsible for everything that happens. The recession we are facing. The measles outbreak. The price of eggs. The unemployment. The inflation. The response to the next natural disaster the country experiences. The next terrorist attack. It’s all on the GOP’s watch and a result of their governance.

Republicans have control over all branches of government as well as Congress.

Whatever happens is 100% their fault.

[Anonymous]

New meaning to the term March Madness. He will use furlough to get whatever he wants.

[Anonymous]

Where are we on this? What I've read in the news doesn't make sense to me. Are Republicans agreed on a budget but worried Dems will filibuster in the Senate? Or is it not even to the point where all the Republicans and Trump are on the same page?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are we on this? What I've read in the news doesn't make sense to me. Are Republicans agreed on a budget but worried Dems will filibuster in the Senate? Or is it not even to the point where all the Republicans and Trump are on the same page?

Apparently they have some R hold outs so need to create a narrative that Democrats are causing issues with the budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are we on this? What I've read in the news doesn't make sense to me. Are Republicans agreed on a budget but worried Dems will filibuster in the Senate? Or is it not even to the point where all the Republicans and Trump are on the same page?

The Republicans in the house have pasted a non binding resolution on a framework to move forward on a budget. They did this by one vote. The framework calls huge cuts in defense, social security and Medicare.

The shut will happen when the government starts running out of money some time in mid March? Though that estimate and payment system is controlled by Musk team. So who knows what will happen or if they will actually know what is happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New meaning to the term March Madness. He will use furlough to get whatever he wants.

He's getting what he wants now. A crashed economy and an isolated isolationist America. No regulations and no federal government. And no allies or friends. Nothing.

America is Great Again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would like the American people to learn the hard way all of the things they get for their tax dollars. Which is actually being generous since a lot of MAGA doesn't even pay taxes.

MAGA and I paid nearly 400k in taxes last year and will pay more this year. I don't feel like I get 400k worth of services from the government.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would like the American people to learn the hard way all of the things they get for their tax dollars. Which is actually being generous since a lot of MAGA doesn't even pay taxes.

MAGA and I paid nearly 400k in taxes last year and will pay more this year. I don't feel like I get 400k worth of services from the government.

Well you're about to get a lot less so don't complain when you're eating poisoned meat and your plane crashes. I hope you get what you voted for!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No budget deal and just shut it down for a few months. No mandatory back pay, either.

No essential workers working without pay either. Shut it all down.

Why are you punishing actual working Feds. No pay for congress, senate or Doge.

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Well, he is not wrong.

If the House GOP passes this budget, then Dems gotta make life hell for the 29 GOP House members who won with the narrowest of margins. Really hope that Cartwright will run again in PA against Bresnahan. Gotta hope that the AZ CD with 60+% of the population on some form of Medicaid (may be a lot of seniors in nursing homes) are fired up and ready to go.

There is zero chance 217 House Republicans agree on a budget - any budget.

Trump will definitely start playing with his cards with those who vote No and they will cave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No budget deal and just shut it down for a few months. No mandatory back pay, either.

No essential workers working without pay either. Shut it all down.

Why are you punishing actual working Feds. No pay for congress, senate or Doge.

Absolutely agree. And all the currently employee Feds need to stand up and scream that and protest when a shutdown does happen. Not to mention all the adjacent industries that will be impacted further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well, he is not wrong.

If the House GOP passes this budget, then Dems gotta make life hell for the 29 GOP House members who won with the narrowest of margins. Really hope that Cartwright will run again in PA against Bresnahan. Gotta hope that the AZ CD with 60+% of the population on some form of Medicaid (may be a lot of seniors in nursing homes) are fired up and ready to go.

There is zero chance 217 House Republicans agree on a budget - any budget.

Trump will definitely start playing with his cards with those who vote No and they will cave.

Trump is running out of cards though. Remember all he could strongarm was the budget blueprint. A concept of a plan if you will. But there’s no time to flesh that out so they’ll have to do another CR.

Having all three branches of government and doing a CR that extends a democratic administration’s budget is pretty weak.

And then of course, there’s the debt ceiling.