Prince Harry Wins Case Against Murdoch Group

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Anonymous wrote:Does Harry even want to go back?

no. it would be too much work. he wants to chill, make tons of money and show up to invictus.

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Anonymous wrote:nothing in spare was that big of a deal - certainly not enough to cut off your child and sibling - it was silly stuff that every family has going on and i thought humanized all of them. I think its Camilla who uses it like a wedge to keep herself and her kids in positive stories.

Totally disagree. Picture your bil going around town slamming you to your friends and acquaintances, to your colleagues and your boss, to people at the grocery store, to your local newspaper, relaying anecdotes that are not truly awful, but just personal and trying to make you look bad v. themselves and sil look good. You'd really still trust them and want them around?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the royal family wants him and Meghan back to the UK all the time doing their faux royal tours. Especially not William, whose power is likely growing as his father deteriorates.

Yes. I am surprised people don't acknowledge the fact that Harry slammed the monarchy and specific family members (including present King, Queen, future King and Queen) both in interviews and in writing, for profit. There is no coming back from that. None of this was an essential component of them leaving. If anything, had they not done that, there would be more inclination to justify some sort of special status. He himself described his family as "the firm", and he went against the firm. What exactly did he expect to happen?

+1 another thing people leave out is that in addition to accusing his family of racism (which ultimately led to the naming of Charles and Kate as the ones who discussed Archie’s skin tone) she actually threatened his family in a Cut interview where she said “I didn’t sign an NDA.” Why on earth would they want her or her husband back?

They are completely untrustworthy. Of course they wont be welcome back. The bridge was burned.

Harry is Charles son.

I think it is in everyone’s interests to broker a peace between William and Harry and to reconcile.

I believe that Queen Elizabeth II should have let Harry and Meghan become part time royals.

There probably was some unconscious racism going on in addition the infamous rivalry between William and Harry; but the tell all book and documentary was damaging to both sides.

The royal family is a big deal for both the UK and many commonwealth countries. It is in everyone’s interests for both sides to apologize and reach some kind of mediated agreement.

The royal family has been functioning since harry and Meghan left five years ago. Not sure where the evidence is that they need them or that they have suffered a grave hit from the duo’s allegations. Especially now that US media is echoing the Meghan bullying claims. That only bolsters the firm’s position.

I think the issue is that Harry is unhappy in California and despite calling his move to the US “freedom,” is miserable. US media is now calling him a fool and writing about his idea to interview Putin and trump about why they are sociopaths. I think his legitimate hate for the media and palace officials blinded him to the fact that by pushing the “Harry is a part boy” image, they were protecting him from a public image that is even more damning: he is dumb.

There is a big difference between functioning and flourishing. Their popularity has dropped and their impact on tourism while still enormous has dropped considerably.

The popularity of the British royal family has declined since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's announcement to leave Britain in 2020. The couple's popularity has plummeted, and their negative press coverage has contributed to the decline in support for the monarchy.

In addition to the revelations made in Prince Harry's memoir, Spare; Prince Andrew’s association with Epstein and the sexual assault of minor allegations that were settled out of court also hurt the monarchy,


The future of the monarchy depends on King Charles's ability to persuade Britons of the institution's value.

Part of that value is adapting to modern society which is much less white than it was.

The public seeing Charles able to rebuild a relationship with his youngest son and his family will help More than hurt.

Harry was very popular in many of the charities he represented. It was foolish of the firm to not let him continue part time and to cut off all his funding and security protection.

I believe that king Charles III should seek professional mediation and commit to healing the wounds. There is fault to be found on both sides. It is in everyone’s interest to seek reconciliation.

Hardliners who advocated shutting them out of the firm when they sought to be part time royals probably thought they were defending the royal institution while I believe they harmed it by not adapting to modern realities.
Further, many commonwealth countries are predominantly POC and reconciliation with Meghan would be welcomed by many of them.

Most of all Charles should seek reconciliation so he can have regular contact with his grandchildren as well as son.

Nice fantasy but the damage is done. This wasn't a minor disagreement they went scorched earth with the book and Oprah shows. That's not family you can trust in the family business and they aren't just going to turn over the Commonwealth to Meghan. She knows next to nothing about diplomacy and can't get along with her family.

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Anonymous wrote:nothing in spare was that big of a deal - certainly not enough to cut off your child and sibling - it was silly stuff that every family has going on and i thought humanized all of them. I think its Camilla who uses it like a wedge to keep herself and her kids in positive stories.

Totally disagree. Picture your bil going around town slamming you to your friends and acquaintances, to your colleagues and your boss, to people at the grocery store, to your local newspaper, relaying anecdotes that are not truly awful, but just personal and trying to make you look bad v. themselves and sil look good. You'd really still trust them and want them around?

What you described is what has been happening by the palace press machine for years.
I didn’t think that the Oprah interview was that damaging. It was obvious that most of what the British tabloids were writing had to come from some source and Camilla’s cozy relationship with Pierce Morgan is no secret.
So the only damage in my view is that the secrecy about how they manage the press and the royal rota et al has become more transparent.

I liked the book Spare. Nothing there was so incredibly new.
British people are uptight and take a long time to warm up to new acquaintances. W&K are uptight and the cultural differences obviously played a role.

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Anonymous wrote:nothing in spare was that big of a deal - certainly not enough to cut off your child and sibling - it was silly stuff that every family has going on and i thought humanized all of them. I think its Camilla who uses it like a wedge to keep herself and her kids in positive stories.

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the royal family wants him and Meghan back to the UK all the time doing their faux royal tours. Especially not William, whose power is likely growing as his father deteriorates.

Yes. I am surprised people don't acknowledge the fact that Harry slammed the monarchy and specific family members (including present King, Queen, future King and Queen) both in interviews and in writing, for profit. There is no coming back from that. None of this was an essential component of them leaving. If anything, had they not done that, there would be more inclination to justify some sort of special status. He himself described his family as "the firm", and he went against the firm. What exactly did he expect to happen?

+1 another thing people leave out is that in addition to accusing his family of racism (which ultimately led to the naming of Charles and Kate as the ones who discussed Archie’s skin tone) she actually threatened his family in a Cut interview where she said “I didn’t sign an NDA.” Why on earth would they want her or her husband back?

They are completely untrustworthy. Of course they wont be welcome back. The bridge was burned.

Harry is Charles son.

I think it is in everyone’s interests to broker a peace between William and Harry and to reconcile.

I believe that Queen Elizabeth II should have let Harry and Meghan become part time royals.

There probably was some unconscious racism going on in addition the infamous rivalry between William and Harry; but the tell all book and documentary was damaging to both sides.

The royal family is a big deal for both the UK and many commonwealth countries. It is in everyone’s interests for both sides to apologize and reach some kind of mediated agreement.

The royal family has been functioning since harry and Meghan left five years ago. Not sure where the evidence is that they need them or that they have suffered a grave hit from the duo’s allegations. Especially now that US media is echoing the Meghan bullying claims. That only bolsters the firm’s position.

I think the issue is that Harry is unhappy in California and despite calling his move to the US “freedom,” is miserable. US media is now calling him a fool and writing about his idea to interview Putin and trump about why they are sociopaths. I think his legitimate hate for the media and palace officials blinded him to the fact that by pushing the “Harry is a part boy” image, they were protecting him from a public image that is even more damning: he is dumb.

There is a big difference between functioning and flourishing. Their popularity has dropped and their impact on tourism while still enormous has dropped considerably.

The popularity of the British royal family has declined since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's announcement to leave Britain in 2020. The couple's popularity has plummeted, and their negative press coverage has contributed to the decline in support for the monarchy.

In addition to the revelations made in Prince Harry's memoir, Spare; Prince Andrew’s association with Epstein and the sexual assault of minor allegations that were settled out of court also hurt the monarchy,


The future of the monarchy depends on King Charles's ability to persuade Britons of the institution's value.

Part of that value is adapting to modern society which is much less white than it was.

The public seeing Charles able to rebuild a relationship with his youngest son and his family will help More than hurt.

Harry was very popular in many of the charities he represented. It was foolish of the firm to not let him continue part time and to cut off all his funding and security protection.

I believe that king Charles III should seek professional mediation and commit to healing the wounds. There is fault to be found on both sides. It is in everyone’s interest to seek reconciliation.

Hardliners who advocated shutting them out of the firm when they sought to be part time royals probably thought they were defending the royal institution while I believe they harmed it by not adapting to modern realities.
Further, many commonwealth countries are predominantly POC and reconciliation with Meghan would be welcomed by many of them.

Most of all Charles should seek reconciliation so he can have regular contact with his grandchildren as well as son.

Nice fantasy but the damage is done. This wasn't a minor disagreement they went scorched earth with the book and Oprah shows. That's not family you can trust in the family business and they aren't just going to turn over the Commonwealth to Meghan. She knows next to nothing about diplomacy and can't get along with her family.

You don’t seem to understand that royal authority is symbolic and their legitimacy requires a lot of good will and faith in their value to society.

It would not be a matter of handing over the keys to the kingdom to Meghan but finding common ground and unity in a polarized world. Being unifiers while rooted in culture and history would have enormous value to society.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the royal family wants him and Meghan back to the UK all the time doing their faux royal tours. Especially not William, whose power is likely growing as his father deteriorates.

Yes. I am surprised people don't acknowledge the fact that Harry slammed the monarchy and specific family members (including present King, Queen, future King and Queen) both in interviews and in writing, for profit. There is no coming back from that. None of this was an essential component of them leaving. If anything, had they not done that, there would be more inclination to justify some sort of special status. He himself described his family as "the firm", and he went against the firm. What exactly did he expect to happen?

+1 another thing people leave out is that in addition to accusing his family of racism (which ultimately led to the naming of Charles and Kate as the ones who discussed Archie’s skin tone) she actually threatened his family in a Cut interview where she said “I didn’t sign an NDA.” Why on earth would they want her or her husband back?

They are completely untrustworthy. Of course they wont be welcome back. The bridge was burned.

Harry is Charles son.

I think it is in everyone’s interests to broker a peace between William and Harry and to reconcile.

I believe that Queen Elizabeth II should have let Harry and Meghan become part time royals.

There probably was some unconscious racism going on in addition the infamous rivalry between William and Harry; but the tell all book and documentary was damaging to both sides.

The royal family is a big deal for both the UK and many commonwealth countries. It is in everyone’s interests for both sides to apologize and reach some kind of mediated agreement.

The royal family has been functioning since harry and Meghan left five years ago. Not sure where the evidence is that they need them or that they have suffered a grave hit from the duo’s allegations. Especially now that US media is echoing the Meghan bullying claims. That only bolsters the firm’s position.

I think the issue is that Harry is unhappy in California and despite calling his move to the US “freedom,” is miserable. US media is now calling him a fool and writing about his idea to interview Putin and trump about why they are sociopaths. I think his legitimate hate for the media and palace officials blinded him to the fact that by pushing the “Harry is a part boy” image, they were protecting him from a public image that is even more damning: he is dumb.

There is a big difference between functioning and flourishing. Their popularity has dropped and their impact on tourism while still enormous has dropped considerably.

The popularity of the British royal family has declined since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's announcement to leave Britain in 2020. The couple's popularity has plummeted, and their negative press coverage has contributed to the decline in support for the monarchy.

In addition to the revelations made in Prince Harry's memoir, Spare; Prince Andrew’s association with Epstein and the sexual assault of minor allegations that were settled out of court also hurt the monarchy,


The future of the monarchy depends on King Charles's ability to persuade Britons of the institution's value.

Part of that value is adapting to modern society which is much less white than it was.

The public seeing Charles able to rebuild a relationship with his youngest son and his family will help More than hurt.

Harry was very popular in many of the charities he represented. It was foolish of the firm to not let him continue part time and to cut off all his funding and security protection.

I believe that king Charles III should seek professional mediation and commit to healing the wounds. There is fault to be found on both sides. It is in everyone’s interest to seek reconciliation.

Hardliners who advocated shutting them out of the firm when they sought to be part time royals probably thought they were defending the royal institution while I believe they harmed it by not adapting to modern realities.
Further, many commonwealth countries are predominantly POC and reconciliation with Meghan would be welcomed by many of them.

Most of all Charles should seek reconciliation so he can have regular contact with his grandchildren as well as son.

Nice fantasy but the damage is done. This wasn't a minor disagreement they went scorched earth with the book and Oprah shows. That's not family you can trust in the family business and they aren't just going to turn over the Commonwealth to Meghan. She knows next to nothing about diplomacy and can't get along with her family.

You don’t seem to understand that royal authority is symbolic and their legitimacy requires a lot of good will and faith in their value to society.

It would not be a matter of handing over the keys to the kingdom to Meghan but finding common ground and unity in a polarized world. Being unifiers while rooted in culture and history would have enormous value to society.

I understand it perfectly well. But, here we are. The palace doesn't agree with you. And Brits aren't exactly crying their eyes out hoping for Meghan's return. She's an American, not one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the royal family wants him and Meghan back to the UK all the time doing their faux royal tours. Especially not William, whose power is likely growing as his father deteriorates.

Yes. I am surprised people don't acknowledge the fact that Harry slammed the monarchy and specific family members (including present King, Queen, future King and Queen) both in interviews and in writing, for profit. There is no coming back from that. None of this was an essential component of them leaving. If anything, had they not done that, there would be more inclination to justify some sort of special status. He himself described his family as "the firm", and he went against the firm. What exactly did he expect to happen?

+1 another thing people leave out is that in addition to accusing his family of racism (which ultimately led to the naming of Charles and Kate as the ones who discussed Archie’s skin tone) she actually threatened his family in a Cut interview where she said “I didn’t sign an NDA.” Why on earth would they want her or her husband back?

They are completely untrustworthy. Of course they wont be welcome back. The bridge was burned.

Harry is Charles son.

I think it is in everyone’s interests to broker a peace between William and Harry and to reconcile.

I believe that Queen Elizabeth II should have let Harry and Meghan become part time royals.

There probably was some unconscious racism going on in addition the infamous rivalry between William and Harry; but the tell all book and documentary was damaging to both sides.

The royal family is a big deal for both the UK and many commonwealth countries. It is in everyone’s interests for both sides to apologize and reach some kind of mediated agreement.

The royal family has been functioning since harry and Meghan left five years ago. Not sure where the evidence is that they need them or that they have suffered a grave hit from the duo’s allegations. Especially now that US media is echoing the Meghan bullying claims. That only bolsters the firm’s position.

I think the issue is that Harry is unhappy in California and despite calling his move to the US “freedom,” is miserable. US media is now calling him a fool and writing about his idea to interview Putin and trump about why they are sociopaths. I think his legitimate hate for the media and palace officials blinded him to the fact that by pushing the “Harry is a part boy” image, they were protecting him from a public image that is even more damning: he is dumb.

There is a big difference between functioning and flourishing. Their popularity has dropped and their impact on tourism while still enormous has dropped considerably.

The popularity of the British royal family has declined since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's announcement to leave Britain in 2020. The couple's popularity has plummeted, and their negative press coverage has contributed to the decline in support for the monarchy.

In addition to the revelations made in Prince Harry's memoir, Spare; Prince Andrew’s association with Epstein and the sexual assault of minor allegations that were settled out of court also hurt the monarchy,


The future of the monarchy depends on King Charles's ability to persuade Britons of the institution's value.

Part of that value is adapting to modern society which is much less white than it was.

The public seeing Charles able to rebuild a relationship with his youngest son and his family will help More than hurt.

Harry was very popular in many of the charities he represented. It was foolish of the firm to not let him continue part time and to cut off all his funding and security protection.

I believe that king Charles III should seek professional mediation and commit to healing the wounds. There is fault to be found on both sides. It is in everyone’s interest to seek reconciliation.

Hardliners who advocated shutting them out of the firm when they sought to be part time royals probably thought they were defending the royal institution while I believe they harmed it by not adapting to modern realities.
Further, many commonwealth countries are predominantly POC and reconciliation with Meghan would be welcomed by many of them.

Most of all Charles should seek reconciliation so he can have regular contact with his grandchildren as well as son.

Nice fantasy but the damage is done. This wasn't a minor disagreement they went scorched earth with the book and Oprah shows. That's not family you can trust in the family business and they aren't just going to turn over the Commonwealth to Meghan. She knows next to nothing about diplomacy and can't get along with her family.

You don’t seem to understand that royal authority is symbolic and their legitimacy requires a lot of good will and faith in their value to society.

It would not be a matter of handing over the keys to the kingdom to Meghan but finding common ground and unity in a polarized world. Being unifiers while rooted in culture and history would have enormous value to society.

This might have happened in time, if Meghan and Harry stayed. But they didn't, they opted out.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the royal family wants him and Meghan back to the UK all the time doing their faux royal tours. Especially not William, whose power is likely growing as his father deteriorates.

Yes. I am surprised people don't acknowledge the fact that Harry slammed the monarchy and specific family members (including present King, Queen, future King and Queen) both in interviews and in writing, for profit. There is no coming back from that. None of this was an essential component of them leaving. If anything, had they not done that, there would be more inclination to justify some sort of special status. He himself described his family as "the firm", and he went against the firm. What exactly did he expect to happen?

+1 another thing people leave out is that in addition to accusing his family of racism (which ultimately led to the naming of Charles and Kate as the ones who discussed Archie’s skin tone) she actually threatened his family in a Cut interview where she said “I didn’t sign an NDA.” Why on earth would they want her or her husband back?

They are completely untrustworthy. Of course they wont be welcome back. The bridge was burned.

Harry is Charles son.

I think it is in everyone’s interests to broker a peace between William and Harry and to reconcile.

I believe that Queen Elizabeth II should have let Harry and Meghan become part time royals.

There probably was some unconscious racism going on in addition the infamous rivalry between William and Harry; but the tell all book and documentary was damaging to both sides.

The royal family is a big deal for both the UK and many commonwealth countries. It is in everyone’s interests for both sides to apologize and reach some kind of mediated agreement.

The royal family has been functioning since harry and Meghan left five years ago. Not sure where the evidence is that they need them or that they have suffered a grave hit from the duo’s allegations. Especially now that US media is echoing the Meghan bullying claims. That only bolsters the firm’s position.

I think the issue is that Harry is unhappy in California and despite calling his move to the US “freedom,” is miserable. US media is now calling him a fool and writing about his idea to interview Putin and trump about why they are sociopaths. I think his legitimate hate for the media and palace officials blinded him to the fact that by pushing the “Harry is a part boy” image, they were protecting him from a public image that is even more damning: he is dumb.

There is a big difference between functioning and flourishing. Their popularity has dropped and their impact on tourism while still enormous has dropped considerably.

The popularity of the British royal family has declined since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's announcement to leave Britain in 2020. The couple's popularity has plummeted, and their negative press coverage has contributed to the decline in support for the monarchy.

In addition to the revelations made in Prince Harry's memoir, Spare; Prince Andrew’s association with Epstein and the sexual assault of minor allegations that were settled out of court also hurt the monarchy,


The future of the monarchy depends on King Charles's ability to persuade Britons of the institution's value.

Part of that value is adapting to modern society which is much less white than it was.

The public seeing Charles able to rebuild a relationship with his youngest son and his family will help More than hurt.

Harry was very popular in many of the charities he represented. It was foolish of the firm to not let him continue part time and to cut off all his funding and security protection.

I believe that king Charles III should seek professional mediation and commit to healing the wounds. There is fault to be found on both sides. It is in everyone’s interest to seek reconciliation.

Hardliners who advocated shutting them out of the firm when they sought to be part time royals probably thought they were defending the royal institution while I believe they harmed it by not adapting to modern realities.
Further, many commonwealth countries are predominantly POC and reconciliation with Meghan would be welcomed by many of them.

Most of all Charles should seek reconciliation so he can have regular contact with his grandchildren as well as son.

Nice fantasy but the damage is done. This wasn't a minor disagreement they went scorched earth with the book and Oprah shows. That's not family you can trust in the family business and they aren't just going to turn over the Commonwealth to Meghan. She knows next to nothing about diplomacy and can't get along with her family.

You don’t seem to understand that royal authority is symbolic and their legitimacy requires a lot of good will and faith in their value to society.

It would not be a matter of handing over the keys to the kingdom to Meghan but finding common ground and unity in a polarized world. Being unifiers while rooted in culture and history would have enormous value to society.

This might have happened in time, if Meghan and Harry stayed. But they didn't, they opted out.

They were chased out

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the royal family wants him and Meghan back to the UK all the time doing their faux royal tours. Especially not William, whose power is likely growing as his father deteriorates.

Yes. I am surprised people don't acknowledge the fact that Harry slammed the monarchy and specific family members (including present King, Queen, future King and Queen) both in interviews and in writing, for profit. There is no coming back from that. None of this was an essential component of them leaving. If anything, had they not done that, there would be more inclination to justify some sort of special status. He himself described his family as "the firm", and he went against the firm. What exactly did he expect to happen?

+1 another thing people leave out is that in addition to accusing his family of racism (which ultimately led to the naming of Charles and Kate as the ones who discussed Archie’s skin tone) she actually threatened his family in a Cut interview where she said “I didn’t sign an NDA.” Why on earth would they want her or her husband back?

They are completely untrustworthy. Of course they wont be welcome back. The bridge was burned.

Harry is Charles son.

I think it is in everyone’s interests to broker a peace between William and Harry and to reconcile.

I believe that Queen Elizabeth II should have let Harry and Meghan become part time royals.

There probably was some unconscious racism going on in addition the infamous rivalry between William and Harry; but the tell all book and documentary was damaging to both sides.

The royal family is a big deal for both the UK and many commonwealth countries. It is in everyone’s interests for both sides to apologize and reach some kind of mediated agreement.

The royal family has been functioning since harry and Meghan left five years ago. Not sure where the evidence is that they need them or that they have suffered a grave hit from the duo’s allegations. Especially now that US media is echoing the Meghan bullying claims. That only bolsters the firm’s position.

I think the issue is that Harry is unhappy in California and despite calling his move to the US “freedom,” is miserable. US media is now calling him a fool and writing about his idea to interview Putin and trump about why they are sociopaths. I think his legitimate hate for the media and palace officials blinded him to the fact that by pushing the “Harry is a part boy” image, they were protecting him from a public image that is even more damning: he is dumb.

There is a big difference between functioning and flourishing. Their popularity has dropped and their impact on tourism while still enormous has dropped considerably.

The popularity of the British royal family has declined since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's announcement to leave Britain in 2020. The couple's popularity has plummeted, and their negative press coverage has contributed to the decline in support for the monarchy.

In addition to the revelations made in Prince Harry's memoir, Spare; Prince Andrew’s association with Epstein and the sexual assault of minor allegations that were settled out of court also hurt the monarchy,


The future of the monarchy depends on King Charles's ability to persuade Britons of the institution's value.

Part of that value is adapting to modern society which is much less white than it was.

The public seeing Charles able to rebuild a relationship with his youngest son and his family will help More than hurt.

Harry was very popular in many of the charities he represented. It was foolish of the firm to not let him continue part time and to cut off all his funding and security protection.

I believe that king Charles III should seek professional mediation and commit to healing the wounds. There is fault to be found on both sides. It is in everyone’s interest to seek reconciliation.

Hardliners who advocated shutting them out of the firm when they sought to be part time royals probably thought they were defending the royal institution while I believe they harmed it by not adapting to modern realities.
Further, many commonwealth countries are predominantly POC and reconciliation with Meghan would be welcomed by many of them.

Most of all Charles should seek reconciliation so he can have regular contact with his grandchildren as well as son.

Nice fantasy but the damage is done. This wasn't a minor disagreement they went scorched earth with the book and Oprah shows. That's not family you can trust in the family business and they aren't just going to turn over the Commonwealth to Meghan. She knows next to nothing about diplomacy and can't get along with her family.

You don’t seem to understand that royal authority is symbolic and their legitimacy requires a lot of good will and faith in their value to society.

It would not be a matter of handing over the keys to the kingdom to Meghan but finding common ground and unity in a polarized world. Being unifiers while rooted in culture and history would have enormous value to society.

This might have happened in time, if Meghan and Harry stayed. But they didn't, they opted out.

They were chased out

Because they didn't work well with the others. That's sort of important in a family business. So they left and I think they are all happier for it. The fab 4 or whatever they were called for a hot minute is never going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the royal family wants him and Meghan back to the UK all the time doing their faux royal tours. Especially not William, whose power is likely growing as his father deteriorates.

Yes. I am surprised people don't acknowledge the fact that Harry slammed the monarchy and specific family members (including present King, Queen, future King and Queen) both in interviews and in writing, for profit. There is no coming back from that. None of this was an essential component of them leaving. If anything, had they not done that, there would be more inclination to justify some sort of special status. He himself described his family as "the firm", and he went against the firm. What exactly did he expect to happen?

+1 another thing people leave out is that in addition to accusing his family of racism (which ultimately led to the naming of Charles and Kate as the ones who discussed Archie’s skin tone) she actually threatened his family in a Cut interview where she said “I didn’t sign an NDA.” Why on earth would they want her or her husband back?

They are completely untrustworthy. Of course they wont be welcome back. The bridge was burned.

Harry is Charles son.

I think it is in everyone’s interests to broker a peace between William and Harry and to reconcile.

I believe that Queen Elizabeth II should have let Harry and Meghan become part time royals.

There probably was some unconscious racism going on in addition the infamous rivalry between William and Harry; but the tell all book and documentary was damaging to both sides.

The royal family is a big deal for both the UK and many commonwealth countries. It is in everyone’s interests for both sides to apologize and reach some kind of mediated agreement.

The royal family has been functioning since harry and Meghan left five years ago. Not sure where the evidence is that they need them or that they have suffered a grave hit from the duo’s allegations. Especially now that US media is echoing the Meghan bullying claims. That only bolsters the firm’s position.

I think the issue is that Harry is unhappy in California and despite calling his move to the US “freedom,” is miserable. US media is now calling him a fool and writing about his idea to interview Putin and trump about why they are sociopaths. I think his legitimate hate for the media and palace officials blinded him to the fact that by pushing the “Harry is a part boy” image, they were protecting him from a public image that is even more damning: he is dumb.

There is a big difference between functioning and flourishing. Their popularity has dropped and their impact on tourism while still enormous has dropped considerably.

The popularity of the British royal family has declined since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's announcement to leave Britain in 2020. The couple's popularity has plummeted, and their negative press coverage has contributed to the decline in support for the monarchy.

In addition to the revelations made in Prince Harry's memoir, Spare; Prince Andrew’s association with Epstein and the sexual assault of minor allegations that were settled out of court also hurt the monarchy,


The future of the monarchy depends on King Charles's ability to persuade Britons of the institution's value.

Part of that value is adapting to modern society which is much less white than it was.

The public seeing Charles able to rebuild a relationship with his youngest son and his family will help More than hurt.

Harry was very popular in many of the charities he represented. It was foolish of the firm to not let him continue part time and to cut off all his funding and security protection.

I believe that king Charles III should seek professional mediation and commit to healing the wounds. There is fault to be found on both sides. It is in everyone’s interest to seek reconciliation.

Hardliners who advocated shutting them out of the firm when they sought to be part time royals probably thought they were defending the royal institution while I believe they harmed it by not adapting to modern realities.
Further, many commonwealth countries are predominantly POC and reconciliation with Meghan would be welcomed by many of them.

Most of all Charles should seek reconciliation so he can have regular contact with his grandchildren as well as son.

Nice fantasy but the damage is done. This wasn't a minor disagreement they went scorched earth with the book and Oprah shows. That's not family you can trust in the family business and they aren't just going to turn over the Commonwealth to Meghan. She knows next to nothing about diplomacy and can't get along with her family.

You don’t seem to understand that royal authority is symbolic and their legitimacy requires a lot of good will and faith in their value to society.

It would not be a matter of handing over the keys to the kingdom to Meghan but finding common ground and unity in a polarized world. Being unifiers while rooted in culture and history would have enormous value to society.

This might have happened in time, if Meghan and Harry stayed. But they didn't, they opted out.

They were chased out

They were given tours of various Pacific and African country. That last tour was right before the exited. So how were they chased out? They had public functions and duties.

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Anonymous wrote:nothing in spare was that big of a deal - certainly not enough to cut off your child and sibling - it was silly stuff that every family has going on and i thought humanized all of them. I think its Camilla who uses it like a wedge to keep herself and her kids in positive stories.

It exposed them as the most petty and dysfunctional family I know. Seriously dysfunctional.

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Anonymous wrote:nothing in spare was that big of a deal - certainly not enough to cut off your child and sibling - it was silly stuff that every family has going on and i thought humanized all of them. I think its Camilla who uses it like a wedge to keep herself and her kids in positive stories.

Totally disagree. Picture your bil going around town slamming you to your friends and acquaintances, to your colleagues and your boss, to people at the grocery store, to your local newspaper, relaying anecdotes that are not truly awful, but just personal and trying to make you look bad v. themselves and sil look good. You'd really still trust them and want them around?

Picture your bil asking his buddies to publicly post a false story about your fiancée making his pregnant wife cry. When his wife was actually the one who was unkind to your fiancée, and in fact, made her cry. But everyone believes it as he allows the lie to continue on and they start to hate your fiancé. And they continue to plant sometimes fake, sometimes true but unflattering stories publicly about her. Next Door and your neighborhood FB page users despise your now-wife. Just keep taking it?

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Anonymous wrote:Does Harry even want to go back?

no. it would be too much work. he wants to chill, make tons of money and show up to invictus.

Yep! Why should he do work for a family that hates his wife? When he is just the spare?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:nothing in spare was that big of a deal - certainly not enough to cut off your child and sibling - it was silly stuff that every family has going on and i thought humanized all of them. I think its Camilla who uses it like a wedge to keep herself and her kids in positive stories.

Totally disagree. Picture your bil going around town slamming you to your friends and acquaintances, to your colleagues and your boss, to people at the grocery store, to your local newspaper, relaying anecdotes that are not truly awful, but just personal and trying to make you look bad v. themselves and sil look good. You'd really still trust them and want them around?

Picture your bil asking his buddies to publicly post a false story about your fiancée making his pregnant wife cry. When his wife was actually the one who was unkind to your fiancée, and in fact, made her cry. But everyone believes it as he allows the lie to continue on and they start to hate your fiancé. And they continue to plant sometimes fake, sometimes true but unflattering stories publicly about her. Next Door and your neighborhood FB page users despise your now-wife. Just keep taking it?

Oh of course not. If that were the true version, I'd be out. But I also wouldn't be constantly talking about all of this, and I definitely would not want to visit, or think it's a good idea to ask for special favors when I do go back.