Impact of McLean/Langley boundary change on McLean real estate choice

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

Where does Haycock go? What do you do with Longfellow? Does it become an even tinier secondary school for Haycock and Lemon Road refugees? None of this makes sense.

Agree, it was a totally idiotic post written by either a troll or a know-nothing.

DP. She said it was an easy fix and then literally offered up one of the most convoluted proposals in recent memory. 🤣

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As more wealthy Asians/Indians move into the Langley pyramid, and due to recent changes in TJ admission to limit Asian & Indians there, Langley is the backup school should they not get accepted in TJ.

It's far from the automatic default for Asian families whose kids don't get into TJ. Get over yourself.

Are you kidding? The percentage of Asian students at Langley HS has the highest growth rate since 2021, about the same thing when TJ made changes in the admission: https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:020,0

Black & Hispanic number barely moves while the number of Asian goes up, at the expense of white.

I don't think there's any question but that the Asian enrollment at Langley has been increasing substantially. Some of this could be due to TJ admissions changes; the Asian enrollment also increased because a heavily Asian neighborhood got moved from McLean to Langley in 2021.

But it's not the only school where the Asian enrollment is high and/or increasing, so this suggestion that it's the sole "backup" school for Asian parents in case their kids get turned down at TJ is BS.

Which Asian neighborhood in McLean? I live on Kurtz road in McLean for almost 35 years, and I am not aware of any "heavily Asian neighborhood" in McLean.

Areas zoned to Colvin Run and Spring Hill in Vienna, not McLean. Colvin Run is over 25% Asian and Spring Hill over 35%.

We could quibble about "heavily." There are a lot of Asians in your neighborhood, too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As more wealthy Asians/Indians move into the Langley pyramid, and due to recent changes in TJ admission to limit Asian & Indians there, Langley is the backup school should they not get accepted in TJ.

It's far from the automatic default for Asian families whose kids don't get into TJ. Get over yourself.

Are you kidding? The percentage of Asian students at Langley HS has the highest growth rate since 2021, about the same thing when TJ made changes in the admission: https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:020,0

Black & Hispanic number barely moves while the number of Asian goes up, at the expense of white.

What does this mean? "at the expense of white"

[Anonymous]

Herndon Middle has a capacity for 1176 students. They have 905 students currently.

Forestville has about 180 kids total between 6th and 5th grades. Even if the Great Falls parents do not choose private for MS, there is plenty of room at Herndon Middle.

And even more room at Herndon High School.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As more wealthy Asians/Indians move into the Langley pyramid, and due to recent changes in TJ admission to limit Asian & Indians there, Langley is the backup school should they not get accepted in TJ.

It's far from the automatic default for Asian families whose kids don't get into TJ. Get over yourself.

Are you kidding? The percentage of Asian students at Langley HS has the highest growth rate since 2021, about the same thing when TJ made changes in the admission: https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:020,0

Black & Hispanic number barely moves while the number of Asian goes up, at the expense of white.

What does this mean? "at the expense of white"

According to the link, white students go from 1130 in 2020-2021 down to 1086 in 2023-2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

I wish more individuals would thoughtfully consider ideas like the one above before dismissing them.

While critiques may arise, this approach exemplifies the forward-thinking and innovative problem-solving that FCPS should consider embracing to address boundary challenges. By encouraging all strategies and leaving all options up for discussion, FCPS can open pathways to meaningful, lasting solutions that prioritize equity and support student achievement. However, achieving this WILL requires parents to remain flexible and open to listening to new ideas. A willingness to consider alternative approaches and trust in collaborative efforts will be essential as staff pursue creative solutions to benefit all students. Embracing fresh approaches will ultimately drive FCPS toward more effective, equitable, and sustainable outcomes that enhance the educational experience for the entire county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As more wealthy Asians/Indians move into the Langley pyramid, and due to recent changes in TJ admission to limit Asian & Indians there, Langley is the backup school should they not get accepted in TJ.

It's far from the automatic default for Asian families whose kids don't get into TJ. Get over yourself.

Are you kidding? The percentage of Asian students at Langley HS has the highest growth rate since 2021, about the same thing when TJ made changes in the admission: https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:020,0

Black & Hispanic number barely moves while the number of Asian goes up, at the expense of white.

What does this mean? "at the expense of white"

According to the link, white students go from 1130 in 2020-2021 down to 1086 in 2023-2024.

There is still no negative impact on white people which is what this language implies. There is no "at the expense of"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

I wish more individuals would thoughtfully consider ideas like the one above before dismissing them.

While critiques may arise, this approach exemplifies the forward-thinking and innovative problem-solving that FCPS should consider embracing to address boundary challenges. By encouraging all strategies and leaving all options up for discussion, FCPS can open pathways to meaningful, lasting solutions that prioritize equity and support student achievement. However, achieving this WILL requires parents to remain flexible and open to listening to new ideas. A willingness to consider alternative approaches and trust in collaborative efforts will be essential as staff pursue creative solutions to benefit all students. Embracing fresh approaches will ultimately drive FCPS toward more effective, equitable, and sustainable outcomes that enhance the educational experience for the entire county.

Thanks, ChatGPT!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

I wish more individuals would thoughtfully consider ideas like the one above before dismissing them.

While critiques may arise, this approach exemplifies the forward-thinking and innovative problem-solving that FCPS should consider embracing to address boundary challenges. By encouraging all strategies and leaving all options up for discussion, FCPS can open pathways to meaningful, lasting solutions that prioritize equity and support student achievement. However, achieving this WILL requires parents to remain flexible and open to listening to new ideas. A willingness to consider alternative approaches and trust in collaborative efforts will be essential as staff pursue creative solutions to benefit all students. Embracing fresh approaches will ultimately drive FCPS toward more effective, equitable, and sustainable outcomes that enhance the educational experience for the entire county.

No idea what you copied and pasted that from (or what AI tool you used to generate it) but the suggestions were and remain idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

I wish more individuals would thoughtfully consider ideas like the one above before dismissing them.

While critiques may arise, this approach exemplifies the forward-thinking and innovative problem-solving that FCPS should consider embracing to address boundary challenges. By encouraging all strategies and leaving all options up for discussion, FCPS can open pathways to meaningful, lasting solutions that prioritize equity and support student achievement. However, achieving this WILL requires parents to remain flexible and open to listening to new ideas. A willingness to consider alternative approaches and trust in collaborative efforts will be essential as staff pursue creative solutions to benefit all students. Embracing fresh approaches will ultimately drive FCPS toward more effective, equitable, and sustainable outcomes that enhance the educational experience for the entire county.

Thanks, ChatGPT!

Or Gatehouse? This sounds similar to the type of communication style of some central office staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Herndon Middle has a capacity for 1176 students. They have 905 students currently.

Forestville has about 180 kids total between 6th and 5th grades. Even if the Great Falls parents do not choose private for MS, there is plenty of room at Herndon Middle.

And even more room at Herndon High School.

Don’t gaslight, honey. The school system always looks at program capacity not design capacity when calculating capacity.

Is gatehouse desperate enough for equity that they’ll start playing fast and loose with the numbers? That’d be corruption, plan and simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon Middle has a capacity for 1176 students. They have 905 students currently.

Forestville has about 180 kids total between 6th and 5th grades. Even if the Great Falls parents do not choose private for MS, there is plenty of room at Herndon Middle.

And even more room at Herndon High School.

Don’t gaslight, honey. The school system always looks at program capacity not design capacity when calculating capacity.

Is gatehouse desperate enough for equity that they’ll start playing fast and loose with the numbers? That’d be corruption, plan and simple.

DP. Program capacities can be adjusted to align more closely with design capacity, especially at MS and HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon Middle has a capacity for 1176 students. They have 905 students currently.

Forestville has about 180 kids total between 6th and 5th grades. Even if the Great Falls parents do not choose private for MS, there is plenty of room at Herndon Middle.

And even more room at Herndon High School.

Don’t gaslight, honey. The school system always looks at program capacity not design capacity when calculating capacity.

Is gatehouse desperate enough for equity that they’ll start playing fast and loose with the numbers? That’d be corruption, plan and simple.

DP. Program capacities can be adjusted to align more closely with design capacity, especially at MS and HS.

At the expense of existing programs at the school. So your lust to soak great falls is great enough that you’d be willing to screw over the current kids at the school?

That’s telling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon Middle has a capacity for 1176 students. They have 905 students currently.

Forestville has about 180 kids total between 6th and 5th grades. Even if the Great Falls parents do not choose private for MS, there is plenty of room at Herndon Middle.

And even more room at Herndon High School.

Don’t gaslight, honey. The school system always looks at program capacity not design capacity when calculating capacity.

Is gatehouse desperate enough for equity that they’ll start playing fast and loose with the numbers? That’d be corruption, plan and simple.

DP. Program capacities can be adjusted to align more closely with design capacity, especially at MS and HS.

At the expense of existing programs at the school. So your lust to soak great falls is great enough that you’d be willing to screw over the current kids at the school?

That’s telling.

It’s not always so draconian. Sometimes it’s just taking another look at how space is being used and doing things like reconfiguring existing spaces or getting rid of lockers that kids aren’t using. But let’s not pretend you’re the least bit worried about compromising existing programs at HMS, ok?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.