USNWR Top 10 Leaked

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

We found the Brown alum who was rejected by Northwestern !

Kids at Brown don't care about Northwestern.

Oh but they do. For finance bros and stem kids, Brown is seen as an easier admit and not as good as Northwestern—so many kids who get deferred or rejected from ED at Penn Wharton or engineering or M&T(insanely popular among males from wealthy families) “settle” for Brown or Dartmouth in RD, and often do not get into Northwestern RD but would prefer it over Brown if they did.

I would disagree. Students would choose Brown and Dartmouth over Northwestern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

We found the Brown alum who was rejected by Northwestern !

Kids at Brown don't care about Northwestern.

Oh but they do. For finance bros and stem kids, Brown is seen as an easier admit and not as good as Northwestern—so many kids who get deferred or rejected from ED at Penn Wharton or engineering or M&T(insanely popular among males from wealthy families) “settle” for Brown or Dartmouth in RD, and often do not get into Northwestern RD but would prefer it over Brown if they did.

The theory that people want to attend Penn or Northwestern way more than Brown or Dartmouth is not really supported by data.

Regular decision acceptance rate
4.0% Brown
4.4% Penn
4.5% Dartmouth
5.5% Northwestern

Regular decision yield
53.0% Penn
49.8% Dartmouth
45.0% Brown
36.5% Northwestern

None of that dispels his theory. It suggests they arent even getting into Northwestern which for finance might be true.

At our private school, the kids that attend Dartmouth and Brown are overwhelmingly ranked higher than kids that attend Northwestern. They can easily get into Northwestern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

We found the Brown alum who was rejected by Northwestern !

Kids at Brown don't care about Northwestern.

Oh but they do. For finance bros and stem kids, Brown is seen as an easier admit and not as good as Northwestern—so many kids who get deferred or rejected from ED at Penn Wharton or engineering or M&T(insanely popular among males from wealthy families) “settle” for Brown or Dartmouth in RD, and often do not get into Northwestern RD but would prefer it over Brown if they did.

The theory that people want to attend Penn or Northwestern way more than Brown or Dartmouth is not really supported by data.

Regular decision acceptance rate
4.0% Brown
4.4% Penn
4.5% Dartmouth
5.5% Northwestern

Regular decision yield
53.0% Penn
49.8% Dartmouth
45.0% Brown
36.5% Northwestern

None of that dispels his theory. It suggests they arent even getting into Northwestern which for finance might be true.

At our private school, the kids that attend Dartmouth and Brown are overwhelmingly ranked higher than kids that attend Northwestern. They can easily get into Northwestern.

DP. Interesting. At our West Coast private school, NU would be the overwhelming pick over Dartmouth. More head to head with Brown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it is weird that Hopkins is tied with Caltech?

Why not Northwestern or Duke by that same token?

I mean Hopkins has humanities and is way more well rounded than Caltech

But it is no match for Caltech at what Caltech excels at

so what? Hopkins is higher ranked than most of the other top 10 for engineering and stem. And it wildly outranks caltech at social sciences and humanities.

You want to rank the top 10 Hopkins humanities department by itself?

So Caltech is better at everything it does than Hopkins.

not in bioengineering, biology, and anything medical related.

Caltech is better in biology and chemistry and physics and doesn't have a medical school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

We found the Brown alum who was rejected by Northwestern !

Kids at Brown don't care about Northwestern.

Oh but they do. For finance bros and stem kids, Brown is seen as an easier admit and not as good as Northwestern—so many kids who get deferred or rejected from ED at Penn Wharton or engineering or M&T(insanely popular among males from wealthy families) “settle” for Brown or Dartmouth in RD, and often do not get into Northwestern RD but would prefer it over Brown if they did.

The theory that people want to attend Penn or Northwestern way more than Brown or Dartmouth is not really supported by data.

Regular decision acceptance rate
4.0% Brown
4.4% Penn
4.5% Dartmouth
5.5% Northwestern

Regular decision yield
53.0% Penn
49.8% Dartmouth
45.0% Brown
36.5% Northwestern

This is interesting information.

RD yield is lower at Northwestern because almost all NU RD admits have very elite East Coast options. Unless exposed to the Chicago area (Chicago is the nation's third largest city), many do not realize what an incredible location NU has. And Chicago is easily accessed and is a great city. Also, the weather deters some.

UPenn does well due to the Wharton School of Business which is the best in the country and probably the best in the world.

Again, thank you for posting the information. If I may ask, what is your source ? TIA

Would so much rather attend school in Evanston/Chicago over Providence or New Hampshire. To each their own, however, Chicago seems to be growing in cachet in subtle ways. People are cluing into the fact that it’s the most underrated city in the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

We found the Brown alum who was rejected by Northwestern !

Kids at Brown don't care about Northwestern.

Oh but they do. For finance bros and stem kids, Brown is seen as an easier admit and not as good as Northwestern—so many kids who get deferred or rejected from ED at Penn Wharton or engineering or M&T(insanely popular among males from wealthy families) “settle” for Brown or Dartmouth in RD, and often do not get into Northwestern RD but would prefer it over Brown if they did.

The theory that people want to attend Penn or Northwestern way more than Brown or Dartmouth is not really supported by data.

Regular decision acceptance rate
4.0% Brown
4.4% Penn
4.5% Dartmouth
5.5% Northwestern

Regular decision yield
53.0% Penn
49.8% Dartmouth
45.0% Brown
36.5% Northwestern

This is interesting information.

RD yield is lower at Northwestern because almost all NU RD admits have very elite East Coast options. Unless exposed to the Chicago area (Chicago is the nation's third largest city), many do not realize what an incredible location NU has. And Chicago is easily accessed and is a great city. Also, the weather deters some.

UPenn does well due to the Wharton School of Business which is the best in the country and probably the best in the world.

Again, thank you for posting the information. If I may ask, what is your source ? TIA

The source of the data is the most recent common data set for each school. You have to back out early decision applicants and early decision admits by hand. There is some imprecision (like some people get deferred from ED and later accepted in RD, a few people are accepted to ED but don't actually enroll, etc.). But I think it mostly summarizes the situation.

I have visited Northwestern and really liked it. The other three schools are great too!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it is weird that Hopkins is tied with Caltech?

Why not Northwestern or Duke by that same token?

I mean Hopkins has humanities and is way more well rounded than Caltech

But it is no match for Caltech at what Caltech excels at

so what? Hopkins is higher ranked than most of the other top 10 for engineering and stem. And it wildly outranks caltech at social sciences and humanities.

You want to rank the top 10 Hopkins humanities department by itself?

So Caltech is better at everything it does than Hopkins.

not in bioengineering, biology, and anything medical related.

Caltech is better in biology and chemistry and physics and doesn't have a medical school.

Wrong

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges-for-biology/

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges-for-math/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

We found the Brown alum who was rejected by Northwestern !

Kids at Brown don't care about Northwestern.

Oh but they do. For finance bros and stem kids, Brown is seen as an easier admit and not as good as Northwestern—so many kids who get deferred or rejected from ED at Penn Wharton or engineering or M&T(insanely popular among males from wealthy families) “settle” for Brown or Dartmouth in RD, and often do not get into Northwestern RD but would prefer it over Brown if they did.

The theory that people want to attend Penn or Northwestern way more than Brown or Dartmouth is not really supported by data.

Regular decision acceptance rate
4.0% Brown
4.4% Penn
4.5% Dartmouth
5.5% Northwestern

Regular decision yield
53.0% Penn
49.8% Dartmouth
45.0% Brown
36.5% Northwestern

None of that dispels his theory. It suggests they arent even getting into Northwestern which for finance might be true.

At our private school, the kids that attend Dartmouth and Brown are overwhelmingly ranked higher than kids that attend Northwestern. They can easily get into Northwestern.

DP. Interesting. At our West Coast private school, NU would be the overwhelming pick over Dartmouth. More head to head with Brown.

No one is "easily" getting into Northwestern. Nor are they significantly higher ranked when the average GPAs and class ranks of the students at these schools are so similar. What a dumb take. More people would choose Northwestern for the sports scene and way better social scene in Chicago as well.

[Anonymous]

Dartmouth stem is terrible. Brown is meh. Plenty of STEM oriented kids rightfully would choose Northwestern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it is weird that Hopkins is tied with Caltech?

Why not Northwestern or Duke by that same token?

I mean Hopkins has humanities and is way more well rounded than Caltech

But it is no match for Caltech at what Caltech excels at

so what? Hopkins is higher ranked than most of the other top 10 for engineering and stem. And it wildly outranks caltech at social sciences and humanities.

You want to rank the top 10 Hopkins humanities department by itself?

So Caltech is better at everything it does than Hopkins.

not in bioengineering, biology, and anything medical related.

Caltech is better in biology and chemistry and physics and doesn't have a medical school.

Wrong

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges-for-biology/

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges-for-math/

Niche? USNEWS has Caltech higher for biology, math, chemistry, physics. . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it is weird that Hopkins is tied with Caltech?

Why not Northwestern or Duke by that same token?

I mean Hopkins has humanities and is way more well rounded than Caltech

But it is no match for Caltech at what Caltech excels at

so what? Hopkins is higher ranked than most of the other top 10 for engineering and stem. And it wildly outranks caltech at social sciences and humanities.

You want to rank the top 10 Hopkins humanities department by itself?

So Caltech is better at everything it does than Hopkins.

not in bioengineering, biology, and anything medical related.

Caltech is better in biology and chemistry and physics and doesn't have a medical school.

Wrong

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges-for-biology/

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges-for-math/

Niche? USNEWS has Caltech higher for biology, math, chemistry, physics. . .

that's for graduate school and research. nice try though.

[Anonymous]

Also, stop the caltech jerking. Caltech for a while was ranked below Hopkins. It's nothing new.

I'll take the larger school better known and more well rounded in International Relations, Education, biology, history, english, writing seminars with medical, business, and education, nursing schools.

not some school with a TINY 250 freshmen in its entering class. the caltech jerking is embarassing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it is weird that Hopkins is tied with Caltech?

Hopkins offers so much opportunity, so I don't think it's weird. The US Gov backs a truck of research money into their yard every year.

And have you been on that campus lately? Thanks, Bloomberg.

NP. I have and also find it weird it’s in the top 10. Did they pay or something?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it is weird that Hopkins is tied with Caltech?

Hopkins offers so much opportunity, so I don't think it's weird. The US Gov backs a truck of research money into their yard every year.

And have you been on that campus lately? Thanks, Bloomberg.

NP. I have and also find it weird it’s in the top 10. Did they pay or something?

You can always try again next time clown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

We found the Brown alum who was rejected by Northwestern !

Kids at Brown don't care about Northwestern.

Oh but they do. For finance bros and stem kids, Brown is seen as an easier admit and not as good as Northwestern—so many kids who get deferred or rejected from ED at Penn Wharton or engineering or M&T(insanely popular among males from wealthy families) “settle” for Brown or Dartmouth in RD, and often do not get into Northwestern RD but would prefer it over Brown if they did.

The theory that people want to attend Penn or Northwestern way more than Brown or Dartmouth is not really supported by data.

Regular decision acceptance rate
4.0% Brown
4.4% Penn
4.5% Dartmouth
5.5% Northwestern

Regular decision yield
53.0% Penn
49.8% Dartmouth
45.0% Brown
36.5% Northwestern

None of that dispels his theory. It suggests they arent even getting into Northwestern which for finance might be true.

At our private school, the kids that attend Dartmouth and Brown are overwhelmingly ranked higher than kids that attend Northwestern. They can easily get into Northwestern.

What a bunch of drivel-totally false at our private. Have to be top 10% and max rigor to have a ghost of a chance plus ED.