USNWR Top 10 Leaked

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:US News rankings for: Engineering (undergrad), Bio, Chem, Physics, Math, Econ, English, History) ranks:

Duke (Engineering,Bio,Chem, Phys, Math, Econ, English, History) =
(19, 11, 27, 28, 16, 18, 13, 18)

Northwestern =
(13, 32, 6, 21, 16, 8, 13, 16)

Hopkins =
(13, 6, 20, 13, 20, 22, 13, 10)

Penn =
(19, 15, 16, 13, 16, 9, 3, 11)

Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.

And yet students seem to care a lot more about Duke than going to school in Baltimore.

I don’t know why anyone thinks it’s bad if their department is 19th in the country

Hopkins’s students culture sucks. I wouldn’t want to go there either.

All you can do is troll when faced with facts. Pathetic look.

Here’s a fun fact I can throw your way:
Duke university yield: 56%
John’s Hopkins Yield: 54%
Clearly it isn’t affecting students too badly when it comes decision time.

Maybe if Duke enrolled the same freshman stats. Hopkins is enrolling a stronger student body compared to what Duke admits.

Hopkins SAT scores (enrolled): 1530-1560
Hopkins ACT: 34-35
Percent in Top 10%: 99%

Duke SAT (admitted): 1500-1560
Duke ACT (admitted): 33-35
Percent in Top 10%: 90%

https://admissions.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Duke-2023-Class-Profile.pdf

Only 55% of JHU kids submitted scores vs 93% for Duke.

You think that missing 45% would bring JHU averages higher?

BINGO! And, my kid was accepted to JHU this years with scores. Did not yield there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:US News rankings for: Engineering (undergrad), Bio, Chem, Physics, Math, Econ, English, History) ranks:

Duke (Engineering,Bio,Chem, Phys, Math, Econ, English, History) =
(19, 11, 27, 28, 16, 18, 13, 18)

Northwestern =
(13, 32, 6, 21, 16, 8, 13, 16)

Hopkins =
(13, 6, 20, 13, 20, 22, 13, 10)

Penn =
(19, 15, 16, 13, 16, 9, 3, 11)

Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.

And yet students seem to care a lot more about Duke than going to school in Baltimore.

I don’t know why anyone thinks it’s bad if their department is 19th in the country

Hopkins’s students culture sucks. I wouldn’t want to go there either.

All you can do is troll when faced with facts. Pathetic look.

Here’s a fun fact I can throw your way:
Duke university yield: 56%
John’s Hopkins Yield: 54%
Clearly it isn’t affecting students too badly when it comes decision time.

Speaking of 'fun', it's not really found at JHU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.”

Facts

Political Science (the single biggest feeder into law schools)? Statistics? Public Policy? All top 10.

Cool, now do the hard sciences and engineering.

The initial inquiry related to Duke’s supposed lack of top 10 programs, and people listed off law and medicine. The question then shifted to Duke’s supposed lack of top 10 programs in the non-professional, graduate programs, which people were happy to list. But since the goalpost has now shifted to specifying any top programs Duke has in the “hard sciences” and engineering, it’s readily available online:

Computer Science:

Duke (19)
Penn (19)
Johns Hopkins (24)
Northwestern (27)

Mathematics:

Duke (16)
Northwestern (16)
Penn (16)
Johns Hopkins (20)

Biological Sciences:

Johns Hopkins (6)
Duke (11)
Penn (15)
Northwestern (32)

Engineering:

Johns Hopkins (14)
Northwestern (16)
Penn (16)
Duke (23)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:US News rankings for: Engineering (undergrad), Bio, Chem, Physics, Math, Econ, English, History) ranks:

Duke (Engineering,Bio,Chem, Phys, Math, Econ, English, History) =
(19, 11, 27, 28, 16, 18, 13, 18)

Northwestern =
(13, 32, 6, 21, 16, 8, 13, 16)

Hopkins =
(13, 6, 20, 13, 20, 22, 13, 10)

Penn =
(19, 15, 16, 13, 16, 9, 3, 11)

Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.

And yet students seem to care a lot more about Duke than going to school in Baltimore.

I don’t know why anyone thinks it’s bad if their department is 19th in the country

Hopkins’s students culture sucks. I wouldn’t want to go there either.

All you can do is troll when faced with facts. Pathetic look.

Here’s a fun fact I can throw your way:
Duke university yield: 56%
John’s Hopkins Yield: 54%
Clearly it isn’t affecting students too badly when it comes decision time.

Maybe if Duke enrolled the same freshman stats. Hopkins is enrolling a stronger student body compared to what Duke admits.

Hopkins SAT scores (enrolled): 1530-1560
Hopkins ACT: 34-35
Percent in Top 10%: 99%

Duke SAT (admitted): 1500-1560
Duke ACT (admitted): 33-35
Percent in Top 10%: 90%

https://admissions.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Duke-2023-Class-Profile.pdf

Only 55% of JHU kids submitted scores vs 93% for Duke.

You think that missing 45% would bring JHU averages higher?

BINGO! And, my kid was accepted to JHU this years with scores. Did not yield there.

duke is test optional. there is no way 93% of kids submitted scores. are people this dumb?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.”

Facts

Political Science (the single biggest feeder into law schools)? Statistics? Public Policy? All top 10.

Cool, now do the hard sciences and engineering.

The initial inquiry related to Duke’s supposed lack of top 10 programs, and people listed off law and medicine. The question then shifted to Duke’s supposed lack of top 10 programs in the non-professional, graduate programs, which people were happy to list. But since the goalpost has now shifted to specifying any top programs Duke has in the “hard sciences” and engineering, it’s readily available online:

Computer Science:

Duke (19)
Penn (19)
Johns Hopkins (24)
Northwestern (27)

Mathematics:

Duke (16)
Northwestern (16)
Penn (16)
Johns Hopkins (20)

Biological Sciences:

Johns Hopkins (6)
Duke (11)
Penn (15)
Northwestern (32)

Engineering:

Johns Hopkins (14)
Northwestern (16)
Penn (16)
Duke (23)

when you have to point to poly sci as a top 10 program vs anything in stem, it shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:stanford is the gold standard. let’s not conflate duke with stanford athletics which has higher standards for athletes and more ncaa championships by far

Why is everyone here obsessed with bringing Duke down? It’s very strange behavior for grown adults.

Very few schools have the athletic excellence of Duke. Let’s stay realistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.”

Facts

Political Science (the single biggest feeder into law schools)? Statistics? Public Policy? All top 10.

Cool, now do the hard sciences and engineering.

The initial inquiry related to Duke’s supposed lack of top 10 programs, and people listed off law and medicine. The question then shifted to Duke’s supposed lack of top 10 programs in the non-professional, graduate programs, which people were happy to list. But since the goalpost has now shifted to specifying any top programs Duke has in the “hard sciences” and engineering, it’s readily available online:

Computer Science:

Duke (19)
Penn (19)
Johns Hopkins (24)
Northwestern (27)

Mathematics:

Duke (16)
Northwestern (16)
Penn (16)
Johns Hopkins (20)

Biological Sciences:

Johns Hopkins (6)
Duke (11)
Penn (15)
Northwestern (32)

Engineering:

Johns Hopkins (14)
Northwestern (16)
Penn (16)
Duke (23)

when you have to point to poly sci as a top 10 program vs anything in stem, it shows.

Oh no the horror of creating political officials and policy analysts and not…another bench lab scientist.

[Anonymous]

Predictions on 11-20?

[Anonymous]

Rice gets the unconnected but good stats and bright kids.

These are also the kids who don't give a flying flame about social status. And, btw, Rice doesn't have fraternities and sororities -- which is a plus for these kids.

[Anonymous]

People, stop it. Duke and Johns Hopkins are among the very best schools in the country. No matter your major, your child will thrive once he exits the college. Pick a college based on how it will fit with your personality. Not on a pedantic argument fought on an anonymous forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, stop it. Duke and Johns Hopkins are among the very best schools in the country. No matter your major, your child will thrive once he exits the college. Pick a college based on how it will fit with your personality. Not on a pedantic argument fought on an anonymous forum.

+1

Though, I suppose this parsing for schools is a form of entertainment for some folks like arguing about which football team should get number 1 vs 2 in the AP ranking. To me, it seems a bit odd for colleges, but to each their own.

[Anonymous]

Rankings RULE, schools DROOL!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:US News rankings for: Engineering (undergrad), Bio, Chem, Physics, Math, Econ, English, History) ranks:

Duke (Engineering,Bio,Chem, Phys, Math, Econ, English, History) =
(19, 11, 27, 28, 16, 18, 13, 18)

Northwestern =
(13, 32, 6, 21, 16, 8, 13, 16)

Hopkins =
(13, 6, 20, 13, 20, 22, 13, 10)

Penn =
(19, 15, 16, 13, 16, 9, 3, 11)

Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.

And yet students seem to care a lot more about Duke than going to school in Baltimore.

I don’t know why anyone thinks it’s bad if their department is 19th in the country

Hopkins’s students culture sucks. I wouldn’t want to go there either.

All you can do is troll when faced with facts. Pathetic look.

Here’s a fun fact I can throw your way:
Duke university yield: 56%
John’s Hopkins Yield: 54%
Clearly it isn’t affecting students too badly when it comes decision time.

Maybe if Duke enrolled the same freshman stats. Hopkins is enrolling a stronger student body compared to what Duke admits.

Hopkins SAT scores (enrolled): 1530-1560
Hopkins ACT: 34-35
Percent in Top 10%: 99%

Duke SAT (admitted): 1500-1560
Duke ACT (admitted): 33-35
Percent in Top 10%: 90%

https://admissions.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Duke-2023-Class-Profile.pdf

Only 55% of JHU kids submitted scores vs 93% for Duke.

You think that missing 45% would bring JHU averages higher?

BINGO! And, my kid was accepted to JHU this years with scores. Did not yield there.

duke is test optional. there is no way 93% of kids submitted scores. are people this dumb?

Look at the recent CDS…47% submitted SAT and 46% submitted ACT.

[Anonymous]

Real top schools stay on top in international rankings. Duke ranks #61 in QS world university ranking. JHU ranks much higher.

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Anonymous wrote:US News rankings for: Engineering (undergrad), Bio, Chem, Physics, Math, Econ, English, History) ranks:

Duke (Engineering,Bio,Chem, Phys, Math, Econ, English, History) =
(19, 11, 27, 28, 16, 18, 13, 18)

Northwestern =
(13, 32, 6, 21, 16, 8, 13, 16)

Hopkins =
(13, 6, 20, 13, 20, 22, 13, 10)

Penn =
(19, 15, 16, 13, 16, 9, 3, 11)

Duke doesn't have a singular top 10 engineering or non-professional grad school ranking. Head to head, Duke only out ranks 2 departments out of 8 or less against Northwestern, Penn, and Hopkins.

Again, it is overrated.

And yet students seem to care a lot more about Duke than going to school in Baltimore.

I don’t know why anyone thinks it’s bad if their department is 19th in the country

Hopkins’s students culture sucks. I wouldn’t want to go there either.

All you can do is troll when faced with facts. Pathetic look.

Here’s a fun fact I can throw your way:
Duke university yield: 56%
John’s Hopkins Yield: 54%
Clearly it isn’t affecting students too badly when it comes decision time.

Maybe if Duke enrolled the same freshman stats. Hopkins is enrolling a stronger student body compared to what Duke admits.

Hopkins SAT scores (enrolled): 1530-1560
Hopkins ACT: 34-35
Percent in Top 10%: 99%

Duke SAT (admitted): 1500-1560
Duke ACT (admitted): 33-35
Percent in Top 10%: 90%

https://admissions.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Duke-2023-Class-Profile.pdf

Only 55% of JHU kids submitted scores vs 93% for Duke.

You think that missing 45% would bring JHU averages higher?

BINGO! And, my kid was accepted to JHU this years with scores. Did not yield there.

duke is test optional. there is no way 93% of kids submitted scores. are people this dumb?

Look at the recent CDS…47% submitted SAT and 46% submitted ACT.

uhhh - that does not mean 93% of students submitted test scores.